Posted on 10/08/2005 7:59:54 PM PDT by SandRat
I'm skeptical about this particular report - and I've been criticized for that skepticism.
My reasons:
1. The local Minute Men are really stressing that this film crew was not working on their behalf.
2. I've know a lot of journalists, including photo-journalists. It's hard to imagine a 4 man film crew getting shot at and chased at length and no one getting a single photo, film clip or audio recording.
3. They claim they had time to identify the perusers as Mexican army but didn;t describe any insignias or symbols.
Other reposrts I've read of shots being fired at (or over the heads of) Minute men just had a more real feel than this account.
I would like to know A LOT more about the accusers.
there was a thread last night. They were an armed film crew in the area to film a documentary (I don't know if it was positive or negative) on the Minute Men. They were off on their own at the time.
I commented on that thread that they wouldn't stand and film people shooting at them but others said that they claimed to have film.
Time will tell.
"I commented on that thread that they wouldn't stand and film people shooting at them but others said that they claimed to have film."
Interesting... real photo journalists are fanatics about filming no matter what. It will be interesting to see what the film shows.
A co-worker who knows the guides said that they do have film of the shooting.
This article treats the other newspaper account as worthless.
Shoddy reporting, at best. This reporter evidently talked with the Park Rangers and the Border Patrol, and not the four men who were shot at.
Andrea Zortman, the BP spokeswoman, hasn't gotten it right yet.
If you are close enough to describe any insignias or symbols, you are laying there dying or you are a prisoner.
The shooting incident did take place. One of the Dad's on a Scout Campout this weekend confimed it. He's BP Supervisor for that sector.
What I haven't been able to tell from the stories I've seen (nothing in the Scruplic of course) is which side of the border was the film crew on? If they were on the U.S. side of the border then the Feds have got to do something. If they were on the Mexican side than they are SOL.AWB
Ran on both sides of the border. Started on the Mexican and ended on our side from what I was told last night in the field.
"If you are close enough to describe any insignias or symbols, you are laying there dying or you are a prisoner."
I understand that. But they reported being attacked by the Mexican army while on American soil - that's a big deal. If they didn't see any insignia or symbols how did they identify "the attackers?"
Thanks for the update. If thats the case the Feds have to file a complaint against Mexico ( I know, I know what good will it do).AWB
Word I got was don't trust the pencil pushers to do anything.
Probably because of the vehicles they were driving, one man giving orders to all the others men, the fact (presumed by me) that they were all carrying the same weapons, etc.
I can recognize a military unit from a mile away almost with my eyes closed.
For now the best accuracy is with Binos a digital video camera, and a cell-phone. Now if we could just figure out how to record the cell phone call for posterity. heheheheheh sneaky huh?
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