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Father apologizes for son's actions (OU bombing, includes timeline)
The Daily Oklahoman ^ | October 9, 2005 | Nolan Clay and Ty McMahan

Posted on 10/09/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by MizSterious

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To: Stingy Dog

No apologies necessary. Right now, I'm alternating between thinking that he made a fatal error trying to take the bomb out of his backpack in order to conceal it, and the theory you put forward.

Sorry if I sounded rude. There have been a lot of "troll-types" that have come to the thread asking for us to "prove" things and try and take up our time that way. Your input is welcomed and appreciated. (o:


161 posted on 10/09/2005 11:41:43 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: Palladin

Thanks Palladin. (o:


162 posted on 10/09/2005 11:42:21 PM PDT by LibertyRocks
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To: AliVeritas
I smell CAIR... though amazingly, I haven't heard them... have you?

They don't need to say anything. Boren is doing their job for them.

163 posted on 10/10/2005 7:10:12 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: PhiKapMom
Some of you have your head so far buried in the sand, you will never see the truth.

That's for sure. It really irks me that Freepers who haven't been on these threads hardly at all, and who haven't bothered to read all the stuff and find out all the facts, just pop in from time to time to tell us "Nothing here, move along" when they don't have a clue because they haven't been following the situation. What nerve!

They say we are jumping to conclusions based on nothing but rumors, and then ask to see evidence -- but they don't bother to read all the OU Bombing threads. I know they haven't read them, because if they had, they wouldn't be asking for proof and talking about rumors. The facts are all there, in reports from local television in OK. Freepers such as LibertyRocks have devoted a great deal of time and effort into collecting all the reported facts and assembling them into concise notes that the skeptics could very easily read and understand. But apparently, these facts are meaningless to the skeptics because they're not being reported in the MSM. The fact they put creedence only in something if it's reported in the MSM speaks volumes.

I also find it interesting that it seems the skeptics only show up on an OU Bombing thread when that thread is based on an article which is obvious spin. They seem to come over to reinforce that spin.

164 posted on 10/10/2005 7:28:33 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: LibertyRocks
There have been a lot of "troll-types" that have come to the thread asking for us to "prove" things and try and take up our time that way.

Their MO is quite obvious. And I refuse to engage them or try to convince them of anything because I know they will not be convinced. They are not here to learn; they are here to obfuscate and discourage. I won't waste energy debating them, because that energy is better spent continuing to study this case and discussing it with those whose eyes are open. If I refer to the trolls at all, it will be in the third person. I put them on notice: their efforts are a waste of time and will achieve nothing because they will not dissuade anyone who values the truth.

165 posted on 10/10/2005 7:34:45 AM PDT by laz (They can bus 'em to the polls, but they can't bus 'em out of the path of a Cat 5 hurricane.)
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To: LibertyRocks
"There have been a lot of "troll-types" that have come to the thread asking for us to "prove" things and try and take up our time that way. Your input is welcomed and appreciated. (o:"

Amateurs all. Wait until you get the data dumpers. Back when folks were trying to disrupt the OKC bombing threads, some would dump reams and reams of irrelevant material on a thread--the "scroll" button got worn out trying to wade through it all to find something pertaining to the issue. And one would post huge graphic files over and over on every thread. Back then, most of us were on dialup I think, or at least I was. I finally learned to turn off the graphics on my browser to get past that one.

166 posted on 10/10/2005 8:02:08 AM PDT by MizSterious (Now, if only we could convince them all to put on their bomb-vests and meet in Mecca...)
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To: laz

I have noticed exactly the same thing and it is irritating. Some of us might be the last people standing but I refuse to take what the MSM has to say as fact. I can still think for myself and I am not willing to take everything fed to the media as fact when two and two do not add up. We are smarter then that and I am surprised at the some of the people who are not. But then we have the types on here that run to post from the NY Times when it suits their agenda. Wonder what the agenda is of some folks on here?


167 posted on 10/10/2005 8:22:30 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: MizSterious; LibertyRocks; laz

Remember the FBI files of the Clintons -- raw data ones -- A-M?

I thought it was strange that Boren went out the first night of the Monica story and called for Clinton to resign -- made no sense why an OU President would be asked. Now I am beginning to think he was asked by the Clintons -- part of their strategy to get someone out there and then say not all of the facts are known because Boren stressed the sex with an intern and if that was the truth, he needed to resign.

Were we being set up because he got Clinton to appoint Tenent with little background to speak of except from the Senate Committee he never should have been appointed to with NO experience. That got someone in CIA loyal to Boren and to the Clintons.

Is my tinfoil hat getting too tight?


168 posted on 10/10/2005 8:25:39 AM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: PhiKapMom

Just checking in this AM to see if there are any new "developments" in the Jihad Joey case.

Regarding the freepmails we exchanged about Boren, is that common news yet? Or just whispers. If it is not commonly known, it should be.

It just seems as though there is a lot of rottenness in various agencies that works more as a protection racket for TPTB rather than the job they've been hired to do.


169 posted on 10/10/2005 8:40:21 AM PDT by little jeremiah (A vitiated state of morals, a corrupted public conscience, are incompatible with freedom. P. Henry)
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To: PhiKapMom

>>>Wonder what the agenda is of some folks on here?<<<

1.) Visitors from Boron's Spin Team, woring assiduously to obscure the facts.

2.)Bored FReepers looking for an argument--about anything.

3.) Unpopular FReepers who emerge from their hidey-holes just long enough to take potshots at excellent FReepers.


170 posted on 10/10/2005 9:14:12 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin

woring=working


171 posted on 10/10/2005 9:14:52 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: little jeremiah

Think it is still in the whisper stage although it seems common knowledge on campus -- I had never heard anything about it until I was told this summer. Most people I talked with agree that it is not well known.

Don't understand why he is still at OU after that 2002 incident with the Pakistani which I posted about on another thread.

This gives me the creeps -- BTW, you have Freep Mail.


172 posted on 10/10/2005 9:20:39 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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To: Palladin

All three answers work for me! Not working though -- the more they attempt to disrupt, the more determined we are to find the answers.


173 posted on 10/10/2005 9:23:51 PM PDT by PhiKapMom
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