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Bush and the revival of small-government conservatism
New Hampshire Union Leader ^ | 10/10/05 | Kate Rick

Posted on 10/10/2005 4:55:14 AM PDT by StoneGiant

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To: WhiteGuy

The enemy is the House and the Senate, not the President. The president gets the blame for everything and the elected legislature likes it that way. According to the U. S. Constitution the elected legislature that WE the PEOPLE elected are in charge. From George Washington to George Bush this has been the way it is. Yes, does the President ask for things that he thinks he need to conduct the day to operation of the Country, yes. The President signs the Bills into law that the legislature that WE the PEOPLE made. If he vetos them they can override the veto. If you don't like what is going on go after the real enemy, the House and the Senate. You and I put them in Washington, make phone calls and write letters and tell them they need to listen to us because WE put them there. If you don't like this okay, more people need to see that WE the PEOPLE put them there and we have to let them know that we can take them out and put others in especially some of those that have been there for twenty and thirty years. WE are the government not them, the elected legistlature are supposed to do what WE sent them there to do.


21 posted on 10/10/2005 7:44:58 AM PDT by JOE43270 (JOE43270 America voted and said we are One Nation Under God with Liberty and Justice for All.)
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To: WhiteGuy
The problem with a us against them argument is one begins to think in terms of winning or losing, which is tragic. It should be about debate. We need to get back to the kind of give and take as the Lincoln-Douglas debates. Ideology has an important place with in our politics. It helps us to better review public policy , to set laws and rules. It helps us to understand our direction. I take issue once it becomes a contest of you lose, I win, I beat on you even when you may be right. We all then lose.
The Founders of the Constitution encouraged (setup) a two party system within the framework of the three branches of government, so that no single party or ideology would become dominant, a government "of the people for the people". They wanted a healthy debate not hate. Let us here from both sides (Left and Right), then we the people can decide.
22 posted on 10/10/2005 7:46:15 AM PDT by conservative-black (Just the beginning)
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To: StoneGiant

Big government borrow and spenders are not now and have never been conservative. They are neocons. Neocons are generally socially conservative, but are only fiscally conservative when it comes to tax cuts.


23 posted on 10/10/2005 7:52:38 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: StoneGiant
The Miers nomination, however, has made the flatline impossible to ignore, and now that the myth has been shattered, we are left to wonder, what exactly was it that we willed ourselves to believe he believed?

Note to Christians who voted for Bush: This is the end result of voting PRAGMATICALLY. Pragmatism is a secular-humanist methodology, not a Christian one. It is an attempt to manipulate the future (if we vote for Bush, this will happen, or this other thing will not happen, etc.) - to play god, if you will. But God and only God can control the future.

In a Republic such as ours, wherein God gave us the privilege of choosing our leaders, the blame for bad leadership falls squarely on the people who elected them. Will people learn from this? I am not optimistic.

24 posted on 10/10/2005 7:58:24 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: StatenIsland
When was a litmus test attached to calling oneself a Republican, anyway? Who defined this test? And why are there only 2 or 3 "key" issues that determine it's outcome?

Perhpas the Whigs were wondering the same thing in 1854...right before hopeless divisions destroyed that party forever. I am hoping for such a division in the Republican Party -- it may be just what the doctor ordered.

25 posted on 10/10/2005 8:03:15 AM PDT by SmartCitizen
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To: stopem

We have proved we can be better Democrats than the Democrats.


26 posted on 10/10/2005 8:33:38 AM PDT by arthurus (Better to fight them over THERE than over HERE.)
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To: StoneGiant

Bush has as much to do with small government conservatism as the Moon has to do with cheese.


27 posted on 10/10/2005 8:19:27 PM PDT by trubluolyguy (Come to the darkside....we have cookies!)
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To: stopem
I just want to go back to the way it was BB, before Bush.

And I fear that we will

Prepare for Clinton presidency Part Deux

Can you say "Madame, President? I knew you could"

28 posted on 10/10/2005 8:32:37 PM PDT by KosmicKitty (Not too worry - we'll all be united again under the next Clinton presidency!!)
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To: KosmicKitty

NO WAY that Madame Clinton will be voted President.

Hopefully we will have a true conservative to vote for in 2008 instead of RINO "most popular politician to Republicans" McCain.


29 posted on 10/11/2005 4:43:28 AM PDT by stopem
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