Posted on 10/10/2005 1:05:39 PM PDT by Drew68
By Gretchen Gallen
Wednesday, October 5, 2005
ALTA DENA, Calif. – The offices of Max Hardcore’s Max World Entertainment were raided Wednesday under the authority of the Child Exploitation and Obscenity Section of the Justice Department. The FBI seized five video titles, Hardcore’s attorney Jeffrey Douglas told XBiz, including (ed. movie titles ommitted)
Additionally, the FBI seized all servers belonging to Hardcore with the purpose of copying and returning them, Douglas said. It is not yet known what other office items have been taken as the investigation is ongoing.
By Thursday afternoon, Hardcore's servers had been returned and the website was active.
Hardcore was not present at the time of the raid, and according to Douglas, is presently attending a trade show in Barcelona, Spain.
Douglas said this is the first federal obscenity investigation involving Hardcore and is in any way related to 2257 record-keeping enforcement.
“Once again the government is wasting tax dollars and otherwise invaluable law enforcement resources to try to force a minority view of morality on all of America,” Hardcore said in a statement. “Five of my movies have been targeted by the federal ‘prude’ patrol. There is no indication of any crime to be alleged except obscenity. If indicted, I will fight to protect my liberty as well as the liberty of consenting adults to watch other adults engage in lawful, consensual, pleasurable sexual action. Shame on the Department of Justice. I am proud of my movies and of those who sell them.”
In 2001, Hardcore was prosecuted by the city of Los Angeles for obscenity, which was not resolved until 2004 with a company plea to a public nuisance.
Born Paul Little in 1956, Hardcore’s films have long been considered some of the most controversial in the industry.
Well, don't you know Jefferson and Madison had this in mind when telling the King to take a hike? I mean what would we do without our right to see girls vomit on screen?
Will the last conservative out please turn off the lights?
Actually, it does...
Amd X. The powers NOT delegated to the United States BY the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.
All of which is ignored, but there nonetheless. Blackbird.
We didn't have an FBI when the Constitution was written. You don't think we should have a national police? Just let the states handle it?
"Men are qualified for civil liberty in exact proportion to their disposition to put moral chains upon their own appetites--in proportion as their love of justice is above their rapacity;--in proportion as their soundness and sobriety of understanding is above their vanity and presumption;--in proportion as they are more disposed to listen to the counsels of the wise and good, in preference to the flattery of knaves. Society cannot exist, unless a controlling power upon the will and appetite is placed somewhere: and the less of it there is within, the more there must be without. It is ordained in the eternal constitution of things, that men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters."
-- Edmund Burke
People don't realize that if things aren't turned around, in a generation or two the mayhem from feral humans will be so barbaric that totalitarian clampdown will be inevitable.
Right, and anyone who opposes the WOD is a pothead, and anyone who opposes hate crime laws is a racist. Take your ad hominems to DU.
There's no thinking going on in minds like that. It's the Beavis and Butthead philosophy. Actually they're probably more civilized and mature in viewpoint.
We could be witnessing the fall of America.
Wolf
Not could be. Are.
But - we can't see the future. We don't know what kind of plans are in motion already, and the Supreme is the actual controller. That relates again to the Evil discussion, I plan to get that written up today.
Did you see the list of Benjamin Franklin's virtures I posted? I'll put it here because it's pretty interesting. It's in his Autobiography. He devised the virtures from various readings and figured out a plan to develop them.
Benjamin Franklin's List of Virtues
1. Temperance - Eat not to dullness, drink not to elevation.
2. Silence - Speak not but what may benefit others or yourself; avoid trifling conversation.
3. Order - Let all things have their places; let each part of your business have its time.
4. Resolution - Resolve to perform what you ought; perform without fail what you resolve.
5. Frugality - Make no expense but to do good to others or yourself, that is, waste nothing.
6. Industry - Lose no time; be always employed in something useful; cut off all unnecessary actions.
7. Sincerity - Use no hurtful deceit; think innocently and justly, and, if you speak, speak accordingly.
8. Justice - Wrong none by doing injuries, or omitting the benefits that are your duty.
9. Moderation - Avoid extremes; forbear resenting injuries so much as you think they deserve.
10. Cleanliness - Tolerate no uncleanliness in body, clothes, or habitation.
11. Tranquility - Be not disturbed at trifles, or at accidents, common or unavoidable.
12. Chastity - Rarely use venery but for health or offspring, never to dullness, or weakness, or the injury of your own or another's peace or reputation.
13. Humility - Imitate Jesus and Socrates.
I like number 4 especially.
Over the last couple decades, pornographers have had alot of success "mainstreaming" their business. Witness Jenna Jameson hosting show on the "E" Channel and those "porn star" t-shirts Christina Agulera display in US Magazine. Porn has achieved never-before-seen degree of hipness, partly due to re-branding sleaze as pseudo-feminist sexual empowerment. Girls can be bad, just like the guys, etc. Then out from under his rock crawls Max Hardcore with his blatant mysogyny, pedophilic tendencies and scatalogical obsessions--just vile enough to disgust even "enlightened" minds and remind people of the sickness and hate behind all the glitz, girl power and libertarian glee. Ironically, the porn industry has more to fear from Max Hardcore than it's opponents do. He's a gift to Concerned Women for America.
There are probably many professions and money making activities that some of us might look down upon. The question is should we judge (legally) certain activites and interfere with an individuals right to contract? I'd say no.
In a better world, he'd have never made a penny of his work.
And I might add that, in an earlier time, Mr. Hardcore would have been tarred, feathered and given a ride out of town on a rail long before the matter came to the attention of any law enforcement agency or the courts.
Ah, the RIGHT TO CONTRACT! For libertarians, the only real right. The rest of us can just sit around and stew in the garbage these freedom-lovers make their stock in trade.
More and more, I am convinced that moral relativism and conservatism are completely incompatible. For the relativists, after all, what is there to conserve, and why would anyone bother?
My son lived for several years in one of those "developing" countries dear to the hearts of liberals, for its constitution enshrined all the imaginary rights they (and so many of their libertarian allies) hold dear. But the real law was in the hands of anonymous mobs. When criminal activity took place in the villages, a band of men would go out at night, nab the suspected perpetrator and kill him. On paper, of course, capital punishment had been abolished even for the most heinous murders.
If the leftists keep getting their way, we will see the return of mob rule here too, I suspect, and it won't be pretty, because some of the suspected perpetrators will surely be innocent.
Interesting observation. You might be correct. I've often wondered if there will be a breaking point when a large segment of society stands up and says, "Enough!" and instead of bloviating, something actually happens.
And here's another question I've long wondered about... Why is it that bondage movies with sex are considered obscene, and therefore illegal, and there are some violent porn movies with really horrible stuff that's also being prosecuted, but movies of "Ultimate Fighting" are OK, as are the "Faces of Death" movies, which show actual films of horrible human deaths and injuries. What is it about the sex, along with violence, fictionalized or not, that makes it illegal. This is something that's worried me for a very long time. When you can take two legal acts, film them together, and the film suddenly becomes illegal. How does that work?
Mark
Of course he is. Federal obscenity laws are not restricted just to child porn.
The 1st Amendment hasn't evolved as a "living document" in order to protect Max Hardcore. It is right there.
Sorry, but the first amendment has never protected obscenity.
You may want to email that link to various prosecuting attorneys as they seem to be having a hard time (no pun intended) on getting obscenity convictions against pornographers.
Certainly true but it seems the definition of "obscenity" has often caused prosecuters to throw up their hands in despair.
Let a jury watch this stuff and then decide if it's obscene.
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