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The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects
Catholic Apologetics International ^

Posted on 10/14/2005 2:03:29 AM PDT by Exton1

The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects Catholic Apologetics International

http://www.catholicintl.com/news/news.htm

Some statistics about the Homosexual lifestyle:

* One study reports 70% of homosexuals admitting to having sex only one time with over 50% of their partners (3)
* One study reports that the average homosexual has between 20 and 106 partners per year (6). The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime
* Many homosexual sexual encounters occur while drunk, high on drugs, or in an orgy setting (7)
* Many homosexuals don't pay heed to warnings of their lifestyles: "Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior" (16)
* Homosexuals got homosexuality removed from the list of mental illnesses in the early 70s by storming the annual American Psychiatric Association (APA) conference on successive years. "Guerrilla theater tactics and more straight-forward shouting matches characterized their presence" (2). Since homosexuality has been removed from the APA list of mental illnesses, so has pedophilia (except when the adult feels "subjective distress") (27)
* Homosexuals account for 3-4% of all gonorrhea cases, 60% of all syphilis cases, and 17% of all hospital admissions (other than for STDs) in the United States (5). They make up only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals live unhealthy lifestyles, and have historically accounted for the bulk of syphilis, gonorrhea, Hepatitis B, the "gay bowel syndrome" (which attacks the intestinal tract), tuberculosis and cytomegalovirus (27)
* 73% of psychiatrists say homosexuals are less happy than the average person, and of those psychiatrists, 70% say that the unhappiness is NOT due to social stigmatization (13)
* 25-33% of homosexuals and lesbians are alcoholics (11)
* Of homosexuals questioned in one study reports that 43% admit to 500 or more partners in a lifetime, 28% admit to 1000 or more in a lifetime, and of these people, 79% say that half of those partners are total strangers, and 70% of those sexual contacts are one night stands (or, as one homosexual admits in the film "The Castro", one minute stands) (3). Also, it is a favorite past-time of many homosexuals to go to "cruisy areas" and have anonymous sex
* 78% of homosexuals are affected by STDs (20)
* Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities" (10)
* Captain William Riddle of the Los Angeles Police says, "30,000 sexually abused children in Los Angeles were victims of homosexuals" (10)
* 50% of suicides can be attributed to homosexuals (10)
* Dr. Daniel Capron, a practicing psychiatrist, says, "Homosexuality by definition is not healthy and wholesome. The homosexual person, at best, will be unhappier and more unfulfilled than the sexually normal person" (10). For other psychiatrists who believe that homosexuality is wrong, please see National Association for Research and Therapy of Homosexuality
* It takes approximately $300,000 to take care of each AIDS victim, so thanks to the promiscuous lifestyle of homosexuals, medical insurance rates have been skyrocketing for all of us(10)
* Homosexuals were responsible for spreading AIDS in the United States, and then raised up violent groups like Act Up and Ground Zero to complain about it. Even today, homosexuals account for well over 50% of the AIDS cases in the United States, which is quite a large number considering that they account for only 1-2% of the population
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).

Homosexuals prey on children.

* 33% of homosexuals ADMIT to minor/adult sex (7)
* There is a notable homosexual group, consisting of thousands of members, known as the North American Man and Boy Love Association ( NAMBLA). This is a child molesting homosexual group whose cry is "SEX BEFORE 8 BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE." This group can be seen marching in most major homosexual parades across the United States
* Homosexuals commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming homosexuals make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 homosexuals is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor (19)
* 73% of all homosexuals have had sex with boys under 19 years of age (9)
* Many homosexuals admit that they are pedophiles: "The love between men and boys is at the foundation of homosexuality" (22)
* Because homosexuals can't reproduce naturally, they resort to recruiting children. Homosexuals can be heard chanting "TEN PERCENT IS NOT ENOUGH, RECRUIT, RECRUIT, RECRUIT" in their homosexual parades. A group called the "Lesbian Avengers" prides itself on trying to recruit young girls. They print "WE RECRUIT" on their literature. Some other homosexuals aren't as overt about this, but rather try to infiltrate society and get into positions where they will have access to the malleable minds of young children (e.g., the clergy, teachers, Boy Scout leaders, etc.) (8). See the DC Lesbian Avengers web page, and DC Lesbian Avengers Press Release, where they threaten to recruit little boys and girls. Also, see AFA Action Alert.

The homosexual agenda.

* The homosexual agenda includes desensitizing the public: "The first order of business is desensitization of the American public concerning gays and gay rights.....To desensitize the public is to help it view homosexuality with indifference instead of with keen emotion. Ideally, we would have straights register differences in sexual preferences the way they register different tastes for ice cream or sports games....At least in the beginning, we are seeking public desensitization and nothing more. We do not need and cannot expect a full 'appreciation' or 'understanding' of homosexuality from the average American. You can forget about trying to persuade the masses that homosexuality is a good thing. But if only you can get them to think that it is just another thing...then your battle for legal and social rights is virtually won" (25)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to get the public to affirm their filthy lifestyle, as one homosexual admitted in the October 1987 homosexual rally on Washington: "We are no longer seeking just a right to privacy and a protection from wrong. We also have a right -- as heterosexual Americans already have -- to see government and society affirm our lives" (27)
* Part of the homosexual agenda is to turn people from Christianity: "The teaching that only male-female sexual activity within the bounds and constraints of marriage is the only acceptable form should be reason enough for any homosexual to denounce the Christian religion" (1)
* Homosexuals knowingly lied (and still lie) about the 10% figure (i.e., homosexuals make up 10% of the population). As Tom Stoddard (formerly of the Lambda Legal Defense Fund) said, "We used that figure when most gay people were entirely hidden to try to create an impression of our numerousness" (17).

The true number of homosexuals.

* The Kinsey study of 1948, which homosexuals often cite to say that 10% of the population is homosexual, actually says that only 4% of the population is EXCLUSIVELY homosexual. This study involved a disproportionate number of people who had been in jail for sex crimes (hardly a random sample of the population). Kinsey also did perverse studies involving young boys and pedophiles. Information on Kinsey
* Current research shows that the true percentage of homosexuals is in the 1-2% range (15,23,26,28). Consider how small this number is when compared to most of the numbers above.

Homosexuals aren't discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class?

* The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24)
* 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren't smart enough to listen to God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22)
* 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where's the job discrimination?

Sexual Orientation

• A phrase that has come up recently in this earth is "sexual orientation." This is a phrase made up by homosexuals to try to make themselves look less filthy than they really are. The purpose of the phrase is to take the spotlight from what these perverts do, and put it on the notion that they are just poor, mistreated people, who simply are attracted to members of the same sex - as if they aren't engaging in activity forbidden by God Almighty. "Sexual orientation," as used today, has nothing to do with sexual activity (yeah, right), but only refers to who or what a particular person is attracted to. If you think that people of other "sexual orientations" are just fine, let's see what other "sexual orientations" you would necessarily have to accept as wholesome and pure. If you're not going to discriminate based on "sexual orientation", then you must not discriminate against any of the following. Bestiality, pedophile, necrophilia., exhibitionism, fetishism, frotteurism, masochism, sadism, transvestitism, voyeurism. If you discriminate against any of these, you're a hypocrite. These "sexual orientations" are generally known as "paraphilias", and are mental disorders - just like homosexuality used to be (29).

REFERENCES

(1) Advocate, 1985
(2) Bayer, R. Homosexuality and American Psychiatry
(3) Bell, A. and Weinberg, M. Homosexualities: a Study of Diversity Among Men and Women. New York: Simon & Schuster, 1978
(4) Cameron et. al. ISIS National Random Sexuality Survey. Nebraska Med. Journal, 1985, 70, pp. 292-299
(5) "Changes in Sexual Behavior and Incidence of Gonorrhea." Lancet, April 25, 1987
(6) Corey, L. and Holmes, K. "Sexual Transmission of Hepatitis A in Homosexual Men." New England J. Med., 1980, pp. 435-38
(7) Family Research Institute, Lincoln, NE
(8) Fields, Dr. E. "Is Homosexual Activity Normal?" Marietta, GA
(9) Jay and Young. The Gay Report. Summit Books, 1979, p. 275
(10) Kaifetz, J. "Homosexual Rights Are Concern for Some," Post-Tribune, 18 December 1992
(11) Kus, R. "Alcoholics Anonymous and Gay America." Medical Journal of Homosexuality, 1987, 14(2), p. 254
(12) Lesbian News, January 1994
(13) Lief, H. Sexual Survey Number 4: Current Thinking on Homosexuality, Medical Aspects of Human Sexuality, 1977, pp. 110-11
(14) Manlight, G. et. al. "Chronic Immune Stimulation By Sperm Alloantigens." J. American Med. Assn., 1984, 251(2), pp. 237-438
(15) Morton-Hunt Study for Playboy (16) MsKusick, L. et. al. "AIDS and Sexual Behavior Reported By Gay Men in San Francisco." Am. J. Pub. Health, 1985, 75, pp. 493-96
(17) Newsweek, February 1993
(18) Newsweek, 4 October 1993
(19) Psychological Reports, 1986, 58, pp. 327-37
(20) Rueda, E. "The Homosexual Network." Old Greenwich, Conn., The Devin Adair Company, 1982, p. 53
(21) San Francisco AIDS Foundation, "Can We Talk." (22) San Francisco Sentinel, 27 March 1992
(23) Science Magazine, 18 July 1993, p. 322
(24) Statistical Abstract of the U.S., 1990
(25) "The Overhauling of Straight America." Guide Magazine. November, 1987
(26) United States Census Bureau (27) United States Congressional Record, June 29, 1989
(28) University of Chicago's Nation Research Corp
(29) Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders Fourth Edition, American Psychiatric Association, 1994.

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1 posted on 10/14/2005 2:03:30 AM PDT by Exton1
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To: Exton1
The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime

I'm 7 behind average. Oh, well. One is all I can handle, anyway.

2 posted on 10/14/2005 2:09:21 AM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Exton1

but we have to embrace this lifestyle as just an everyday thing. whats the big deal with mostly having sex when drunk, high on drugs or in an orgy setting. sounds perfectly normal to me. wait, i will go ask a local muslim cleric for his views, since american moral arbiters for the most part seem bought off.


3 posted on 10/14/2005 2:11:01 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Exton1

Some of the stats are a bit old...Bell & Weinberg, for example. Too bad new ones aren't available.


4 posted on 10/14/2005 2:16:19 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Exton1
Already posted.

The Statistics on Homosexuality and its Effects

Posted by Coleus On News/Activism 10/13/2005 12:08:23 PM CDT · 85 replies · 2,087+ views

5 posted on 10/14/2005 2:16:21 AM PDT by DirtyHarryY2K (http://soapboxharry.blogspot.com/)
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To: Exton1
Its male homosexuals who tend to promiscuity. That's relatively rare among female homosexuals. That being said, ts possible for one man to be faithful to a male partner all his life. But its more a matter of values than behavior and the gay scene doesn't exactly foster a committed lifestyle. Despite all the recent hoopla, you don't see many gay male couples entering into formal marriages.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
6 posted on 10/14/2005 2:20:13 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Gondring
A number of them are also patently ridiculous, like this glaring example:

Judge John Martaugh, chief magistrate of the New York City Criminal Court has said, "Homosexuals account for half the murders in large cities"

That is not a statistic, BTW. That is merely the opinion of an idiot.

7 posted on 10/14/2005 2:31:28 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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9 posted on 10/14/2005 2:41:15 AM PDT by Cindy
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To: Exton1
the "gay bowel syndrome"

YIKES.

10 posted on 10/14/2005 2:43:41 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: Jeff Chandler

I'm with you I'll have to tell my wife that I'm in deficit. Amen.


11 posted on 10/14/2005 2:49:40 AM PDT by gakrak ("A wise man's heart is his right hand, But a fool's heart is at his left" Eccl 10:2)
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To: Exton1
"Knowledge of health guidelines was quite high, but this knowledge had no relation to sexual behavior"

No morals whatsoever.

12 posted on 10/14/2005 2:49:49 AM PDT by Past Your Eyes (Some people are too stupid to be ashamed.)
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To: Past Your Eyes

One of the great lies in our society is that someone has to "come out of the closet to be a homosexual." They can do homosexual acts by the thousands, including against children, and they are not a homosexual unless they say that they are one.

You are what you do. If you practice homosexuality (have sex with someone of your same sex) then you are a homosexual. If you do that at all you are participating in homosexuality. It is not what you say, think, or feel, that makes you homosexual, it is not just an orientation, it is what you do.

Im sure it includes what you say, do, or orient yourself towards, but the strict reality is if you do homosexual you are homosexual.


13 posted on 10/14/2005 3:08:13 AM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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To: son of caesar

One would think that the gay lifestyle would render homosexual politicians very vulnerable to being blackmailed. Not for being gay (which the public would likely regard as no big deal) but for engaging in all sorts of unsavory activities while too drunk/stoned to realize they were being recorded


14 posted on 10/14/2005 3:09:06 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor
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To: AntiGuv

When I first saw this article, I wanted to copy it for the purpose of having it printed someday in the local paper. But when I looked at every statistic, I too, thought someof them were at least a stretch.

I remember what happened to the book Unlimited Access by Gary ??, the FBI agent who worked in the Clinton White House. The morning talk shows, including C-SPAN, made it a point to focus on just one point, the only point that could be disputed in the entire book (had to do with Bill sneaking out to hotels at night for a little of the horizontal mambo). When that one point could not be proven, the entire book was written off and relegated to relatively obscure world of conservative talk.

If these facts, about homosexuality could be cleaned-up, they might be very useful.


15 posted on 10/14/2005 3:11:00 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: Exton1

Would it be possible for the Organization of Heterosexual Rights to update and vet these statistics. They could be instrumental in fighting the Gay-Lesbian agenda.


16 posted on 10/14/2005 3:14:42 AM PDT by David Isaac
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To: Exton1
The average heterosexual has 8 partners in a lifetime

Umm, well, I plead the Fifth Amendment on the ground that my answer may incriminate me.


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17 posted on 10/14/2005 3:15:15 AM PDT by rdb3 (Have you ever stopped to think, but forgot to start again?)
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To: Exton1

Glad to see I was a well above average hetero. (at least till I got married 25 years ago). LOL.


18 posted on 10/14/2005 3:21:46 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. Heinlein)
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To: goldstategop

The promiscuity among females is way past norm also. And even the homo-marriage is not the same as the hetro-marriage. The homo-marriage is done mostly with no commitment to be mono-marriage like the hetro-marriage is. More than one sex partner is the norm in the homo-marriage, in the hetro-marriage more than one will probably bring the marriage down to ruin.

There is no such thing as normalcy in the homosexual community. They govern their lives by their sexuality, and nothing is too much for them. They are people who yield to any and all things that come into their minds and hearts to do.


19 posted on 10/14/2005 3:22:05 AM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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To: Vaquero

One great book that gives a scholastic look at homosexuality under the Nazi regime is "THE PINK SWASTIKA" which is a must read for anyone dealing combating this lifestyle.


20 posted on 10/14/2005 3:25:15 AM PDT by TrailofTears (."We mock loyalty and are shocked at finding traitors in our midst." CS Lewis)
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To: Exton1
Already posted.


21 posted on 10/14/2005 3:32:06 AM PDT by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: Exton1
Knowing ALL this ... WHY is the Catholic church allowing them as priests? Does anyone else see a conflict here with the Bible and what they are really all about?
22 posted on 10/14/2005 3:44:24 AM PDT by nmh (Intelligent people recognize Intelligent Design (God).)
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To: GBoettner
Whatever. Around half the murders in New York City are drug-trade related, most of the rest (around a third of the total) are women killed by men in domestic disputes. About 15% are killed by strangers. 4% of all murders are of men killed by an "intimate partner" - that presumably includes whether by a female or male partner. Anyone who would say that homosexuals account for over half of urban homicides is an idiot.
23 posted on 10/14/2005 4:02:40 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: GBoettner

PS. So far as I'm concerned, anyone who would quote as credible anyone else saying that over half of urban homicides are committed by homosexuals is also an idiot.


24 posted on 10/14/2005 4:05:31 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: Exton1
Homosexuals aren't discriminated against in employment, so why should they be a protected class? * The average yearly income of a homosexual is $55,430.00 (most of which is disposable because no children to take care of!). The average of the general population is $32,144.00. The average of blacks is $12,166.00 (24) * 59.6% of homosexuals are college graduates. 18.0% of the general population are college graduates (24). Too bad they aren't smart enough to listen to God. "Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools" (Romans 1:22) * 49.0% of homosexuals hold professional/managerial positions. 15.9% of the general population hold such positions (24). Where's the job discrimination?

They are smarter than the average joe. Intelligence and homoeroticism are correlated. Therefore, to protect the moral fiber of society, we should insist on making people less intelligent. No guarantee at the level of individual decisions, but statistically speaking we would reduce the rate of homosexual thoughts and acts. Of course, we would have to do with fewer Wittgensteins, Turings, Nashes, Whitmans, de Vincis, etc., etc. (isn't this boring?), but think of the aesthetic gains!

Thoughtless posts like yours by contrast make Sinkspur’s knee-jerk Republicanism a welcome and refreshing relief.

25 posted on 10/14/2005 4:10:16 AM PDT by chinche
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To: AntiGuv
Its a crime to be a Homosexual in Turkey. is it not, So therefore it is.
26 posted on 10/14/2005 4:10:24 AM PDT by lillybet
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To: lillybet

No, as a matter of fact, it's not a crime in Turkey, nor has it been since 1453.


27 posted on 10/14/2005 4:17:29 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: ninenot; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; FITZ; arete; ...
* Homosexuals account for a disproportionate number of hepatitis cases: 70-80% in San Francisco, 29% in Denver, 66% in New York City, 56% in Toronto, 42% in Montreal, and 26% in Melbourne (8)
* 37% of homosexuals engage in sadomasochism, which accounts for many accidental deaths. In San Francisco, classes were held to teach homosexuals how to not kill their partners during sadomasochism (8)
* 41% of homosexuals say they have had sex with strangers in public restrooms, 60% say they have had sex with strangers in bathhouses, and 64% of these encounters have involved the use of illegal drugs (8)
* Depending on the city, 39-59% of homosexuals are infected with intestinal parasites like worms, flukes and amoebae, which is common in filthy third world countries (8)
* The median age of death of homosexuals is 42 (only 9% live past age 65). This drops to 39 if the cause of death is AIDS. The median age of death of a married heterosexual man is 75 (8)
* The median age of death of lesbians is 45 (only 24% live past age 65). The median age of death of a married heterosexual woman is 79 (8)
* Homosexuals are 100 times more likely to be murdered (usually by another homosexual) than the average person, 25 times more likely to commit suicide, and 19 times more likely to die in a traffic accident (8)
* 21% of lesbians die of murder, suicide or traffic accident, which is at a rate of 534 times higher than the number of white heterosexual females aged 25-44 who die of these things(8)
* 50% of the calls to a hotline to report "queer bashing" involved domestic violence (i.e., homosexuals beating up other homosexuals) (18)
* About 50% of the women on death row are lesbians (12).

Alternative life style bump!

28 posted on 10/14/2005 4:22:53 AM PDT by A. Pole (Fusion: "The forces of freedom on the move. Europe trembles.")
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To: AntiGuv

Note source number 8, also.


29 posted on 10/14/2005 4:31:54 AM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: AntiGuv

well, according to the fbi stats, one of the key indicators of a serial killer is homosexuality or issues related to it. one of their chief guys wrote a book about it a few years back, its probably now banned as being hate speech. there were some ten major indicators they look for and if i recall correctly, the misundstood one had to have at least six of these to be a serial killer.


30 posted on 10/14/2005 4:31:57 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: son of caesar

Serial killers account for less than 2% of all murders.


31 posted on 10/14/2005 4:37:05 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: chinche

exton, your argument is specious at best. if none of those artists would have been born, a different human would have taken their place. now if you think differently, remember that everyone is replaceable on the macro level. btw, how do you feel about abortion and the thousands of geniuses that have been murdered before being allowed to fulfill their potential? do we miss their work? i think not.


32 posted on 10/14/2005 4:37:12 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Gondring

What am I supposed to note about it? Other than that it includes no date of publication, as one would ordinarily expect from a citation, probably because it refers to a pamphlet of unsourced data items released by a Georgia-based white-supremacist organization?


33 posted on 10/14/2005 4:41:51 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: AntiGuv

good comeback. in all reality, i think its safe to say that drugs do acct or are involved in most of the murders in this country, fair? article makes it obvious that gays are into drugs much more than others. argument with that, read the article. i was using serial killers as an example of a worldview that could possibly have some bearing on gay behaviors. if you come back and say that alot of murders are husbands killing wives, that too is fair, but you have to acknoweldge the sexual angle in that too.


34 posted on 10/14/2005 4:45:29 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Jeff Chandler
You might like this chart from an Oct 10 story which isn't just about homosexuals:


35 posted on 10/14/2005 4:51:20 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: son of caesar
exton, your argument is specious at best. if none of those artists would have been born, a different human would have taken their place. now if you think differently, remember that everyone is replaceable on the macro level. btw, how do you feel about abortion and the thousands of geniuses that have been murdered before being allowed to fulfill their potential? do we miss their work? i think not

Well then, let's abort everybody.

Although I don't know if you are talking to me or exton1.

Anyway, luckily most of us do not have a clue about what we are talking about. So this thread is just an exercise in entropy.

I think I'll leave now and go to my physical therapy. My therapist, by the way, is way hot. I'll accept the responsibility to replace one of the promiscuous homos we've aborted. Might have some fun too. Who knows?

And FYI: Wittgenstein, Turing, and Nash were not artists.

36 posted on 10/14/2005 4:51:26 AM PDT by chinche
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To: WKB
It was posted YESTERDAY under the very same title for crying out loud. How lazy does a poster have to be?
37 posted on 10/14/2005 4:54:14 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: son of caesar

If you want a serious discussion - "in all reality" - then it is safe to say that most statistics such as the above are contrived. Here's how:

It's difficult to get a precise measure of the percentage of "homosexuals"; this is because definitions vary (is it based on activity? is it based on self-description? etc) and because self-reporting on surveys is unreliable. Therefore, various credible surveys have produced figures ranging from 2%- to 6%+.

Now, say you survey 100 Hepatitis B patients and you come up with 4 that report themselves as homosexual. OK, then you want to figure out how this compares to the general population. How do you do that? Do you take the study that says 2% of the general population is homosexual, or the study that says 4%, or the study that says 6%?

In the first case, you come up with homosexuals are 100% more likely to contract Hep B. In the second, homosexuals are equally likely to contract Hep B as anyone. And, in the third, homosexuals are 33% less likely to contract Hep B.

And so it goes. Much of this is dubious propaganda. If it makes you happy though, run with it. No biggie to me either way!


38 posted on 10/14/2005 4:57:51 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: AntiGuv

A homo could not say it better.


39 posted on 10/14/2005 4:59:13 AM PDT by gedeon3
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To: AntiGuv

ok, since you are now into the medical aspects of gaydom, i have only one question for you, AIDS?


40 posted on 10/14/2005 4:59:18 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: Gondring; All
Newer ones are available which is what makes this repeat post bogus. Here's something much newer on one topic:


The report offers new information about homosexuality in America... over their lifetimes, 6 percent of men and 11 percent of women reported having such experiences. About 1 percent of men and 3 percent of women said they had had both male and female sexual partners within 12 months...

Nearly 6 percent of all men between 15 and 44 reported having oral sex with another man at some time in their lives, and nearly 4 percent reported having anal sex with another man.


The data come from the 2002 National Survey of Family Growth, a survey of 12,571 men and women aged 15 to 44... NY Times Article, SEPT 17, 2005
41 posted on 10/14/2005 4:59:27 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: son of caesar

What about it, other than the obvious?


42 posted on 10/14/2005 5:03:14 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: son of caesar
ok, since you are now into the medical aspects of gaydom, i have only one question for you, AIDS?

What's the question?

43 posted on 10/14/2005 5:03:34 AM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: Stop union theft for political agendas with YES on Prop 75! Prolife? YES on Prop 73!)
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To: chinche

chinche, my post was indeed to you and not to exton, my mistake. your post shows excellent support for abortion, i wonder why? as to your saying that gays have given greatness to society, again, i will ask you what greatness has been lost when in america alone some 50 million humans have been murdered before they can fulfill their potential? perhaps a couple of great artists were in that bunch? as to what a particular named person in the scheme of things is, artist, engineer, etc etc, you have missed the whole point perfectly.


44 posted on 10/14/2005 5:03:45 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: AntiGuv

ok, who contracts aids in overwhelming numbers and what behavior differentiates this group from the mass?


45 posted on 10/14/2005 5:06:55 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: son of caesar

Do you wanna just get to your point? Because I have to go in a few minutes.


46 posted on 10/14/2005 5:09:34 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: AntiGuv

there is no point that can be made that will satisfy you, you will simply move the goalposts. btw, i appreciate your tactics, its methodology is working well in this pc world. some of us know better, have a great day.


47 posted on 10/14/2005 5:13:44 AM PDT by son of caesar (son of caesar)
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To: son of caesar

lol! I didn't move any goal posts, and have a great day yourself!


48 posted on 10/14/2005 5:18:08 AM PDT by AntiGuv ()
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To: newzjunkey

It was posted YESTERDAY under the very same title for crying out loud.


Then why are YOU reading it again?
Sometimes posters aren't lazy.
Sometimes FR search engine just plain sucks.
And not EVERYBODY sees it the first time it's posted.
I didn't this time.
And besides that what damn difference does it make?


49 posted on 10/14/2005 5:29:47 AM PDT by WKB (If you can't dazzle them with brilliance.. then Baffle them with BS)
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To: TrailofTears
2 Thessalonians 2 verses 9, 10 , 11, 12.
(New King James Version) 2 Thessalonians 2

9. The coming of the lawless one is according to the working of Satan, with all power, signs, and lying wonders,
10. and with all unrighteous deception among those who perish, because they did not receive the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11. And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe the lie,
12. that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
50 posted on 10/14/2005 5:31:40 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM 53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart , There is no GOD .)
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