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This Day In History October 14, 1066 The Battle of Hastings - Norman Conquest of England
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Posted on 10/14/2005 4:35:26 AM PDT by mainepatsfan

This Day In History | General Interest

October 14

1066 The Battle of Hastings

King Harold II of England is defeated by the Norman forces of William the Conqueror at the Battle of Hastings, fought on Senlac Hill, seven miles from Hastings, England. At the end of the bloody, all-day battle, Harold was killed--shot in the eye with an arrow, according to legend--and his forces were destroyed. He was the last Anglo-Saxon king of England.

Just over two weeks before, William, the duke of Normandy, had invaded England, claiming his right to the English throne. In 1051, William is believed to have visited England and met with his cousin Edward the Confessor, the childless English king. According to Norman historians, Edward promised to make William his heir. On his deathbed, however, Edward granted the kingdom to Harold Godwine, head of the leading noble family in England and more powerful than the king himself. In January 1066, King Edward died, and Harold Godwine was proclaimed King Harold II. William immediately disputed his claim.

On September 28, 1066, William landed in England at Pevensey, on Britain's southeast coast, with approximately 7,000 troops and cavalry. Seizing Pevensey, he then marched to Hastings, where he paused to organize his forces. On October 13, Harold arrived near Hastings with his army, and the next day William led his forces out to give battle.

After his victory at the Battle of Hastings, William marched on London and received the city's submission. On Christmas Day, 1066, he was crowned the first Norman king of England, in Westminster Abbey, and the Anglo-Saxon phase of English history came to an end. French became the language of the king's court and gradually blended with the Anglo-Saxon tongue to give birth to modern English. William I proved an effective king of England, and the "Domesday Book," a great census of the lands and people of England, was among his notable achievements. Upon the death of William I in 1087, his son, William Rufus, became William II, the second Norman king of England.


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1 posted on 10/14/2005 4:35:28 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

!! October 14...also my birthday...Yipeee!


2 posted on 10/14/2005 4:39:04 AM PDT by SMARTY ("Stay together, pay the soldiers and forget everything else." Lucius Septimus Severus)
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To: mainepatsfan

Let's hope Hollywood does this one now in a movie. I hate to forget these things, history really is important.


3 posted on 10/14/2005 4:41:18 AM PDT by rovenstinez (..)
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To: rovenstinez

I wonder who'd they portray as the bad guys?


4 posted on 10/14/2005 4:49:28 AM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: mainepatsfan

"The Lord of the Rings" was written by JRR Tolkien in part to restore an Anglo Saxon mythology to England, something that he felt had been removed by the Normans after their conquest.

OTOH, IMO the Anglo Saxon tradition of individual freedom managed to dominate British culture until the 20th century and American until the last 30 years or so.


5 posted on 10/14/2005 4:58:43 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: mainepatsfan
Why is this British clap trap in this website???? You never see anyone post how Garibaldi in his struggle helped achieve the unification of Italy
or how Bismarck made a nation for the German people. or how the Irish achieved independence in the 1920's. always with the British.
6 posted on 10/14/2005 5:05:54 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. Heinlein)
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To: mainepatsfan

Willam the Bastard won. Just goes to show that the good guys don't always win.

Actually, the battle that Harold won in the north a couple of weeks before was even more spectacular. One wonders why he was in such a hurry to get south that he left half of his army stringing out behind him. History would have certainly been different if he had not been as impulsive as he was.


7 posted on 10/14/2005 5:19:17 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: Vaquero

The United States as a country is an outgrowth of England, not Italy, Germany or Ireland. We speak English and share much in common culturally with the English. Particularly we share a tradition of individual freedom and personal liberty, a tradition that began there, not here, though IMO Americans elevated that tradition to a new form. In fact the practical application of that tradition is almost exclusive to English speaking countries.

Because of these things, English history is essentially our history and therefore more directly of interest than the general history of Western Civilization, although of course that is obviously our history too.


8 posted on 10/14/2005 5:19:55 AM PDT by Sam Cree (absolute reality)
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To: Vaquero
Why is this British clap trap in this website????

I think you answered your question by choosing to reply in English, rather than Italian, German or Gaelic

9 posted on 10/14/2005 5:20:37 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: mainepatsfan

I for one welcome our Norman overlords.


10 posted on 10/14/2005 5:21:38 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: SMARTY

Happy Birthday!


11 posted on 10/14/2005 5:34:15 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
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To: Sam Cree

Good point and a true one!


12 posted on 10/14/2005 5:37:37 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
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To: agere_contra

As one of Norman descent, I say GO NORMANS!


13 posted on 10/14/2005 5:39:10 AM PDT by MBB1984
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To: Sam Cree

"Anglo Saxon mythology"

But how important is mythology compared to real history? Jesus came to bring us life when "we" were far gone in superstition and false religion. Very early on Christianity was brought to Briton, probably first by Roman soldiers.
Why go back into darkness?

Mythology is darkness, and so is "Lord of The Rings" and "Harry Potter".


14 posted on 10/14/2005 5:41:46 AM PDT by RoadTest (The Clintons have no sense of shame.)
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Very interesting point there, and one with which I tend to agree. I think the predominant trends in modern education predispose most of us to think of history ( if it is thought of at all) as being shaped by sweeping and impersonal forces. Nationalism, Socialism, Modernism, Isalmo-Fascism, etc. Too often we overlook the role of the individual and individual choice.

Last year my son chose Hastings for a history research paper. He went to source materials as much as he could, then secondary materials, of course. He did a pretty good job synthesizing the traditional accounts with some modern analysis.

He concluded that Harold would have been better served by waiting before joining pithced battle and that, even so, had it not been for the (un)lucky arrow strike, the battle, and thus the fate of England and thus the West, could have been much different.


15 posted on 10/14/2005 5:52:07 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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From what I can remember from school, the arrow was just the final nail in the coffin. There’s dispute over whether he was shot by an arrow but that’s beside the point.

The battle was lost when William feigned retreat and the Saxons elite infantry broke formation to pursue. The Normans then turned and charged with their cavalry. Fair play if you ask me, seems like good quick thinking on William’s (or his military advisor’s) part.


16 posted on 10/14/2005 6:01:00 AM PDT by FostersExport
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To: RoadTest
Mythology is darkness, and so is "Lord of The Rings" and "Harry Potter".

I won't address Harry Potter, but The Lord of the Rings is a great Christian allegory written by a serious scholar of Christian faith and intended to discuss Christian issues like courage, honor, purity, self-sacrifice, humility, fearless opposition to evil, and love for one's fellow man.

17 posted on 10/14/2005 6:02:36 AM PDT by Capriole (I don't have any problems that can't be solved by more chocolate or more ammunition.)
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To: RoadTest
The Lord of the Rings is (splendid) mythology. As for it being "darkness" - no, can't agree. It's most evident subtexts are about a) salvific death and b) mercy. The only other mythology I can think of that's more shot through with Christian values is Morte d'Arthur.

I have a feeling that you havn't actually read LOTR yet - I hope you will try it, its a delightful read!

18 posted on 10/14/2005 6:20:19 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: agere_contra

SEE #19


20 posted on 10/14/2005 6:25:49 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" R. Heinlein)
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