Posted on 10/14/2005 7:57:37 AM PDT by nikos1121
I don't know about any other White Sox fans out there, but I'm getting sick of hearing this guy Chicago Sports Reporter Mariotti trash them any chance he gets. What is it with him?
Through the years this sort of thing has happened in all sports. The NE Pats were handed the conference championship a few years ago because a Brady fumble was called a forward pass. In the end it all evens out and this kind of story is a waste of news print.
Question: "When a batter advances to first base on an third strike where the ball is not cleanly caught by the catcher, did the batter 'strike out' or 'strike safe'?
The Angels just received their share for the two bad calls in the Yankees series; The Cano interference BS and the A-Rod to Giambi put-out that was called safe.
"Question: "When a batter advances to first base on an third strike where the ball is not cleanly caught by the catcher, did the batter 'strike out' or 'strike safe'?"
I would think that it would be charged as strike out and passed ball would it now?
Usually, it's scored K/E2. The exception would be if the batter swings and misses at what turns out to be a wild pitch. In this case, the play would be scored K/E1.
Tuck rule, my friend. Tuck rule. The rest is sour grapes.
I'd hate to see baseball going to instant replay except maybe on homeruns. If it did it would be a slippery slope to removing umpires, esp behind the plate, and substitute them with robots.
Did the ump make an out sign with his arm? That's what he seemed to do. That is what the fielders saw and walked off the field. Verbal decisions are needed so everyone can hear - enough of the umpire motion performance horsesh't.
"Game three Angels vs Black Sox today in California."
Hey! Careful there. :-)))
Exactly.
Also, how many men did the Angels leave on base? Bellyaching about officials' calls as the reason for a loss is juvenile.
This guy writes like he's afraid of losing a bundle on this series.
This supposed "bad call" by the umpire did not enable the pinch runner to steal second and the next batter to smack a double...
You are correct. I see Posada do it instinctively even when it is clear that he caught the ball cleanly 2in. off the ground.
Wrong... the umpire clearly called him "OUT" by raising his fist in front of his chest. He first called the "STRIKE" by raising his right hand up and then, in a second motion, pulled his hand in front of him, closed his fist and shook it signifying an out. At that point the play is over (or at least should have been).
The correct procedure for a third strike that is not caught by the catcher is to call the strike with your right hand raised, and then make a verbal call "no catch, no catch, no catch"... This is taught to umpires as far down as High School.
So, the bad call (the ball clearly hit the webbing of the mitt and rolled into the pocket - watch the replays, no dirt flew up as it would have if the ball had hit the ground first) was bad enough... but where the umpire really blew it was in his hand signals and in giving no verbal clues. That umpire is going to have fun with the fans in right field at Anaheim Stadim tonight.
As much as I like Brady and the Pats though they are not my team..Let me say this
Dude that was an F******G fumble. LOL.
If you have heard Mariotti expound on all things, he takes small breaks from his politically liberal pounding of Bush, Rove et al. to make equally uninsightful insipid sports commentary. Apparently he did not appreciate his prior Chicago experience before slithering onto the national ESPN stage. So Chicago get the same as the President from him and his irritation with the city exudes from his being. As best I can tell, that would seem to be what this is about.
I used to think there was a definitive answer to all umpire rulings. Was it a catch or wasn't it?
What I came to realize over time was that there will always be times when players make mistakes, and there will always be times when umpires make mistakes. It's all part of the game.
Humans fail. It's the hardest part of the game to come to terms with. There are times when you'll feel that you or your team were robbed. At times you'll be right, recognizing that at times the team you're playing will also be robbed.
Sports are a good place to develop character. As in all walks of life, things will sometimes not be fair. Understanding this and dealing with it builds character, and that's not only the hardest play to make in sports, it's the hardest play to make in life.
You can't take the human error factor our of your teams play. As I've grown older, I have come to the point that I don't think you should attempt to remove the human factor from the officiating either.
I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for holding this view. There are certainly reasons to disagree.
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