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1 posted on 10/14/2005 7:57:41 AM PDT by nikos1121
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I don't know about any other White Sox fans out there, but I'm getting sick of hearing this guy Chicago Sports Reporter Mariotti trash them any chance he gets. What is it with him?


2 posted on 10/14/2005 7:59:57 AM PDT by nikos1121
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Through the years this sort of thing has happened in all sports. The NE Pats were handed the conference championship a few years ago because a Brady fumble was called a forward pass. In the end it all evens out and this kind of story is a waste of news print.


3 posted on 10/14/2005 8:01:43 AM PDT by Eagles Talon IV
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From the camera in centerfield it appears the ball is trapped against the ground. The batter was just alert and ran to first base. The Angels catcher assumed the inning was over and ran off the field. Just because the umpire calls the third strike and an out does not mean the batter cannot advance to first on an error by the catcher. This is why a pitcher can "strike out" 4 or 5 batters in an inning.

Question: "When a batter advances to first base on an third strike where the ball is not cleanly caught by the catcher, did the batter 'strike out' or 'strike safe'?

4 posted on 10/14/2005 8:03:42 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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Game three Angels vs Black Sox today in California.
5 posted on 10/14/2005 8:04:08 AM PDT by tallhappy (Juntos Podemos!)
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Did the ump make an out sign with his arm? That's what he seemed to do. That is what the fielders saw and walked off the field. Verbal decisions are needed so everyone can hear - enough of the umpire motion performance horsesh't.


11 posted on 10/14/2005 8:08:31 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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EVERY catcher worth his salt tags the batter after a third strike anywhere NEAR the dirt. This is taught to every kid, adolescent, college, and pro-catcher.

Also, how many men did the Angels leave on base? Bellyaching about officials' calls as the reason for a loss is juvenile.

This guy writes like he's afraid of losing a bundle on this series.

14 posted on 10/14/2005 8:10:18 AM PDT by sinkspur (If you're not willing to give Harriett Miers a hearing, I don't give a damn what you think.)
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I used to think there was a definitive answer to all umpire rulings. Was it a catch or wasn't it?

What I came to realize over time was that there will always be times when players make mistakes, and there will always be times when umpires make mistakes. It's all part of the game.

Humans fail. It's the hardest part of the game to come to terms with. There are times when you'll feel that you or your team were robbed. At times you'll be right, recognizing that at times the team you're playing will also be robbed.

Sports are a good place to develop character. As in all walks of life, things will sometimes not be fair. Understanding this and dealing with it builds character, and that's not only the hardest play to make in sports, it's the hardest play to make in life.

You can't take the human error factor our of your teams play. As I've grown older, I have come to the point that I don't think you should attempt to remove the human factor from the officiating either.

I'm sure I'll get a lot of flack for holding this view. There are certainly reasons to disagree.


20 posted on 10/14/2005 8:14:58 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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On a somewhat related note, the day MLB institutes instant-reply will be the day I forswear baseball forever.


28 posted on 10/14/2005 8:17:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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"Whether the baseball actually hit the dirt or not will be debated for years, with no one entirely sure about the truth -- after 24 hours of replays -- except maybe Paul, who says he caught the ball cleanly but speaks with obvious bias. "

24 hours of replays? Is this guy nuts. I did not watch the game and saw one replay, rewound about 3 or 4 times on the news the next day. Not having a dog in this fight is nice. I can watch a video with an unbiased eye.

Point 1. The ball hit the dirt and the ricochet into the glove was quite obvious and dramatic. The catcher screwed up.

Point 2. The umpire screwed up by trying to justify his arm motions. Most umpires do the little, point the finger, clench the fist and then the arm pull thingy when the third strike is called. Who cares what your style is? The Umps have gotten so slack in their motions that the crowd can't tell half the time whether they called a ball or a strike until the announcer says what the count is. And, by the way... when did the officiating crews start holding press conferences? WTF is that all about?!

51 posted on 10/14/2005 8:34:38 AM PDT by Hatteras
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Some questions:

Just how does a team get away with calling themselves the "Angels" in the Peoples Republic of California?

Why do Angels fans sound so much like Algore in 2000?

Isn't it refreshing to have something (the dropped ball) exciting to break up the boredom of professional baseball?

Would they even consider slowing down that game more with instant replay?




55 posted on 10/14/2005 8:37:46 AM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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And here I thought the only problem with Baseball was that Arrested Development won't be on again until it is over.


61 posted on 10/14/2005 8:42:26 AM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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Doug Eddings says he needs to work on his mechanics. Yeah, maybe in Single A ball somewhere, but not the ALCS.

Whichever Molina is catching tonight should throw down to first base after every K just to make a point.


67 posted on 10/14/2005 8:53:02 AM PDT by socal_parrot (Fear the monkey.)
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As if bad or controvertial calls just started a few days ago. The worst!


71 posted on 10/14/2005 8:55:27 AM PDT by HitmanLV
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Another whining little b-tch. Probably a Cubs fan.

The Anaheim Angels are going down anyhow. F-ck them and their whiny fans. ;-)

73 posted on 10/14/2005 8:57:36 AM PDT by Clemenza (Gentlemen, Behold!)
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If there is any doubt on the call, the catcher should tag the runner. I have seen it done 100 times by catchers on balls anywhere close to the dirt, and that one was close. I am not huge fan of the drop third strike rule anyways. If anything, this illustrates what a poor rule it is.


126 posted on 10/15/2005 7:35:50 AM PDT by Always Right
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