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High turnout in Iraq’s day of voting
Khaleej Times ^ | 10/15/05 | Khaleej Times

Posted on 10/15/2005 12:07:24 PM PDT by freedom44

BAGHDAD - Iraq’s deeply divided Shias, Sunnis and Kurds voted under heavy guard on Saturday to decide the fate of a new constitution aimed at establishing democracy after more than two decades of Saddam Hussein’s repressive rule.

A day that US and Iraqi leaders feared could turn bloody turned out to be the most peaceful in months.

Insurgents attacked five of Baghdad’s 1,200 polling stations with shootings and bombs, wounding seven voters. But the only deaths were those of three Iraqi soldiers in a roadside bomb far from a polling site, and there were no major attacks reported as US and Iraqi forces clamped down with major security measures around balloting sites.

The United States hopes the constitution will be approved so Iraqis can form a permanent, representative government and secure the country so Washington can start withdrawing its 150,000 troops.

In the south, Shia women in head-to-toe veils and men emerged from the poll stations flashing victory signs with fingers stained with purple ink, apparently responding in mass to the call by their top cleric, Grand Ayatollah Ali Al Sistani, to support the charter.

“Once the constitution is stable, the country will be stable,” Rajaa Mohammed Abbas, a 35-year-old Shia woman, said after voting “yes” in the southern city of Karbala, where crowds of people marched after casting ballots, chanting “yes, yes to the constitution.”

But in Sunni areas in Baghdad and several key heavily Sunni provinces, a surprisingly high turnout in some areas seemed to consist largely of Iraqis voting “no” because of fears the new constitution would mean setting in stone the Shia domination they fear.

The Sunni Arab turnout was a dramatic change from January parliamentary election, which most Sunnis boycotted. Now they were eager to cast ballots, which could make the race tighter than expected.

“This is all wrong. I said ’no’ to a constitution written by the Americans,” said Jilan Shaker, 22, a laborer who showed up at a polling station in Baghdad’s Azamiyah district polling station in shorts and plastic sandals.

In the crucial northern city of Mosul, there was a constant flow of voters all day long into a kindergarten in a Sunni Arab neighborhood: men and women, dressed at their best in suits and ties or neatly pressed veils, many carrying young children in holiday clothes.

A top UN official told The Associated Press that turnout was very high in the predominantly Shia Muslim south but low in the mostly Sunni Arab western province of Anbar, where insurgents are active. Carina Perelli, director of the Electoral Assistance Division of the United Nations, also said voter turnout was very steady in many other mostly Sunni regions.

Voters at the country’s 6,100 polling stations marked their paper ballot “yes” or “no” under one question, written in Arabic and Kurdish: “Do you agree on the permanent constitution project?” After placing the ballots in the plastic boxes, the Iraqis had the forefinger of their right hands marked with violet ink.

A few Sunni leaders called for a “yes” vote after last-minute changes were made in the draft, but most urged their voters to oppose.

When polls closed at 5 p.m., celebratory gunfire was heard in Baghdad. Families handed out sweets to passers-by in the street ahead of the end of the day’s Ramadan fast about an hour later.

Vote counting began immediately. In Baqouba, northeast of Baghdad, a handful of men sat around long tables with lanterns, putting “yes” votes in one pile and “no” votes in another.

Baqouba turnout is key because the city is in a province that is majority Sunni but has sizable Shia and Kurdish communities.

There are four provinces where Sunni Arab opponents are hoping to make that threshold: Anbar, Ninevah, Salahuddin and Diyala, all with Sunni majorities. But all of those except Anbar also have significant Shia and Kurdish populations mixed in who the opponents must outweigh to reach two-thirds.

So competition was at its fiercest in those areas, with all sides drumming out voters.

“The government can’t just sew together an outfit and dress the people up by force. We do not see ourselves or see our future in this draft,” said Gazwan Abdul Sattar, 27-year-old Sunni teacher in Mosul after voting “no” in Nivevah’s capital, Mosul.

But in a nearby mostly Kurdish neighborhood of the city, Bahar Saleh gave her support to the constitution. “This constitution will at last give the Kurds their lost rights,” the 34-year-old housewife said, coming from the polls with the red-and-green Kurdish flag wrapped around her body.

In Salahuddin province, just north of Baghdad, turnout may have been as high as 75 percent, local election officials said. In the Sunni Arab town of Tikrit - Saddam’s birthplace, hundreds rushed to the polls in the last minute to make the closing of polls and get home in time for the breaking of the fast.

But turnout also appeared high in mainly Shia towns and districts elsewhere in the province.

In Baghdad, American troops in Humvees rattled down Baghdad streets in patrols, while Iraqi soldiers and police ringed polling stations at schools and other public buildings protected by concrete barriers and barbed wire. Iraqi soldiers armed with heavy machine guns looked over polling sites from nearby rooftops. US troops in tanks and armored vehicles stood not far away as helicopters hovered overhead. Driving was banned to stop suicide car bombings by Sunni-led insurgents determined to wreck the vote.

“Today, I came to vote because I am tired of terrorists, and I want the country to be safe again,” said Zeinab Sahib, a 30-year-old mother of three, one of the first voters at a school in the mainly Shia neighborhood of Karrada in Baghdad. “This constitution means unity and hope.”


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cary; iraq; iraqiconstitution; iraqielection; iraqsuccess; voterturnout
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To: GBoettner

It's almost a non-event on MSM. Foxnews website has OLD news concerning people going to the polls--THE POLLS ARE CLOSED!! As I write this it is 12 MIDNIGHT in Baghdad!! What a bunch of dumba***s. I have no respect for Foxnews either.

God bless those wonderful Troops who made the plan of our Commander in Chief happen! GO 2-69 of the 3ID at FOB Gabe!! You do us proud.

Down with the anti-American, anti-military, anti-President Bush DemoCRAPS! You only dreamed of '06, scum, the gauntlet is thrown and we've picked it up!


21 posted on 10/15/2005 1:09:25 PM PDT by brushcop (We lift up our military serving in harm's way and pray for total victory and a safe return.)
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To: freedom44
A day that US and Iraqi leaders feared could turn bloody turned out to be the most peaceful in months....Insurgents attacked five of Baghdad’s 1,200 polling stations with shootings and bombs, wounding seven voters. But the only deaths were those of three Iraqi soldiers in a roadside bomb far from a polling site, and there were no major attacks reported as US and Iraqi forces clamped down with major security measures around balloting sites.

Hallelujah! Wonderful news! Thank you, God!

22 posted on 10/15/2005 1:10:22 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: jeffers

"Regardless of which way the vote goes, I suspect that a large number of the people who do not get their wish will follow their historic tendency to resort to violence to try and get their way."

Yes, with their culture and historical tendencies, I think they'll have a hard time, even if they agree to a great extent. They need to fast-forward a few hundred years and get out of the middle ages.


23 posted on 10/15/2005 1:10:31 PM PDT by USMCPOP
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To: freedom44

“This is all wrong. I said ’no’ to a constitution written by the Americans,” said Jilan Shaker, 22, a laborer who showed up at a polling station in Baghdad’s Azamiyah district polling station in shorts and plastic sandals.

The question is, who has Jilan Shaker been talking with, Billy Klinton, Hillary Klinton, Kennedy, Kerry, Howeird Dean, Pelosi, Schumer, Levin, Boxer, Feinstein, Jesse Jackson, Collins, Snowe, McCain, Biden, Lautenberg, Corzine, Leahy, ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NY Times, Boston Globe, Washington Post, Time, Pravda, Isvestia......?


24 posted on 10/15/2005 1:11:43 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: Neoliberalnot
This will be a tough time for the terrorists, liberals, and demorats if democracy succeeds. We need to be sensitive to their losses which means a win for representative government.

LOL! They're like the monkeys in the zoo who are bored, so they fling dung and have *ahem* intimate relations dozens of times a day.... but who's keeping them in prison, in a free country? Only their own fear of the responsibilities of adulthood and freedom.

25 posted on 10/15/2005 1:13:14 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: freedom44
Iraq’s deeply divided Shias, Sunnis and Kurds voted under heavy guard on Saturday to decide the fate of a new constitution aimed at establishing democracy after more than two decades of Saddam Hussein’s repressive rule

I thought Saddam took power back in 1968? Nevertheless, congrats to the Iraqi people for taking one of the many baby steps towards democracy.
27 posted on 10/15/2005 1:15:45 PM PDT by reagan_fanatic (Darwinism is a belief in the meaninglessness of existence - R. Kirk)
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To: freedom44

28 posted on 10/15/2005 1:16:05 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: JulieRNR21
"This is a huge victory for the Iraqi people, and a stunning defeat for the terrorists and their allies. It appears that the military actions that coalition and Iraqi forces have carried out over the past two months have been remarkably successful in degrading the terrorists' capabilities."

"President Bush can take great pride in this historic day" ~ Bump!

29 posted on 10/15/2005 1:19:57 PM PDT by blackie (Be Well~Be Armed~Be Safe~Molon Labe!)
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30 posted on 10/15/2005 1:21:01 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves")
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To: ncountylee
"...safe again"?

I saw that and wondered when in his 30 years of life did he remember it safe ?
31 posted on 10/15/2005 1:21:48 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: anonymoussierra

Google failure, they are up to their leftist games.


32 posted on 10/15/2005 1:27:54 PM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ncountylee

Yes


33 posted on 10/15/2005 1:30:26 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves")
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To: JulieRNR21; Alia; cf_river_rat; Constitution Day; Howlin; JWinNC; TaxRelief; The Phantom FReeper; ..
"This is a huge victory for the Iraqi people, and a stunning defeat for the terrorists and their allies. It appears that the military actions that coalition and Iraqi forces have carried out over the past two months have been remarkably successful in degrading the terrorists' capabilities."

Victory ping!

34 posted on 10/15/2005 1:32:45 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: JulieRNR21
I've been thinking about those millions of Iraqis who risked death and how many walked for hours to vote (the roads were closed due to fear of car bombs) and to exercise a freedom many Americas take for granted or simply ignore. I've read accounts of how they jubilantly flashed their 'purple fingers' and it has moved me to tears!

...and then there's the coconuts in this country who can't vote because they have to get to the video store before it closes....
35 posted on 10/15/2005 1:36:18 PM PDT by notfornothing
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To: JulieRNR21
"Al Qaeda believes that America can be made to run again. They are gravely mistaken. America will not run, and we will not forget our responsibilities." –George W. Bush

Thanks for posting this.

36 posted on 10/15/2005 1:36:30 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (Judge not, unless ye be a God-fearing originalist)
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To: Neoliberalnot
We need to be sensitive to their losses

You think we should be sensitive to those who pray/prey that our soldiers die??? LOL

37 posted on 10/15/2005 1:41:58 PM PDT by Krodg
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thank you all
38 posted on 10/15/2005 1:52:48 PM PDT by anonymoussierra ("Ephesians 2:8-9 For by grace you are saved through faith, and this is not of yourselves")
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An interesting and related observation.

Certainly the situation is a lot more complex than body counts but examining casualty reports may give some indication as to the effectiveness of the enemy. And the bottom line is obvious: There were a hell of a lot more Coalition forces killed in the runup to the first election in January than have been killed in the runup to this one. In fact Coalition casualties have almost been cut in half.

Coalition Casualties in Iraq during Pre-Election #1
Nov...141
Dec...077
Jan...127
Total: 345

Coalition Casualties in Iraq during Pre-Election #2
Aug...085
Sep...052
Oct...038 (to date)
Total: 175

Just pointing that out since the media hasn't bothered to figure it out or report it.

http://icasualties.org/oif/


39 posted on 10/15/2005 1:55:58 PM PDT by Da Mav
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To: freedom44

Lets pray that they pass the Constitution and then things might start to settle down...after a while, they can always go back and take that out and insert this, and change things here and there, we did that with our Constitution, and it wasn't easy the first 50 years of our Nation's Birth either...

God Bless the Iraqi's !!!


40 posted on 10/15/2005 1:59:15 PM PDT by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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