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Firefox sees 100 millionth download
Cnet ^ | 10/19/2005 | Jennifer Guevin

Posted on 10/19/2005 8:13:16 PM PDT by Panerai

st shy of Firefox's first birthday party, the Mozilla Foundation celebrated the 100 millionth download of its Web browser Wednesday.

Mozilla has seen steady adoption of its browser since its release last November. After a somewhat higher download rate immediately following its release, the browser has settled into between 200,000 and 300,000 downloads a day, said Asa Dotzler, the Mozilla liaison to the SpreadFirefox community.

"This is a great milestone. Our massive, worldwide community of grassroots marketers and users--not to mention the developers--have helped to put out a product that's really kicking butt," he said.

Firefox has enjoyed an enthusiastic user base the likes of which few companies in the tech industry experience. Thousands of volunteers help spread the word about the browser, participate in free support forums and discussion lists, and scour its code for flaws.

But the browser hasn't been without its problems. The number of reported security holes in Firefox continues to grow, and Symantec recently released a hotly contested report claiming that Mozilla browsers saw more reported vulnerabilities than Microsoft's Internet Explorer in the first half of 2005. In what could be construed as a shift in attitude toward the browser, its marketing Web site, SpreadFirefox.com, was brought down by hackers just last week.

However, the open nature of the Mozilla browsers allows the group to respond to new security threats quickly, and these developments haven't stunted adoption. If anything, Dotzler said, the company has seen a slight uptick in the past two months, which he attributed to new interest in other browsers and a renewed buzz surrounding the upcoming Firefox 1.5 release. If announcements of new security issues affected consumer adoption, it did so in both directions, Dotzler said.

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KEYWORDS: firefox; internetexplorer; mozilla
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To: jess35
I've had far fewer "security" issues with firefox than with IE.

In soite of Symantec's comments that Firefox is more insecure than IE, note that when an issue is found in FF/Mozilla, it gets fixed very quickly. With IE, Microsoft tends to wait until an announced flaw is actually exploited before they get their proverbial thumb out of their nether orfice and come up with a patch. Add to that, if any of the Firefox faults HAD been exploited, they still would not be as serious as any of the known exploits that target Internet Exploder, er, explorer...

I will continue to use Firefox, thank you!

21 posted on 10/19/2005 10:35:24 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (What part of John 14:6 don't you get?)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
I love Firefox. The guy who created it should have charged $5 a download. He'd be a millionaire now.

Math wasn't a strong subject of yours, was it?
22 posted on 10/19/2005 10:40:19 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: rwfromkansas
but I am getting annoyed at having to reinstall all the extensions etc.

If you have to reinstall all the extensions each time you update FF, maybe you're doing it wrong.. If you're on a Windows machine, use control panel/add-remove software to remove the old version. When it gets done you will get a notice that says something along the lines of 'not all files were removed' or 'directory not removed' or something like that (wording depends on Win version) and asks if you want to remove the remaining files/directory. Tell it NO. Then reinstall the new version of Firefox. It will find your old files, extensions, bookmarks, and everything. (Now, if you're not on a Win machine, maybe you should check Mozilla.org for info...)

23 posted on 10/19/2005 10:42:09 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (What part of John 14:6 don't you get?)
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To: sergeantdave
I've read it's faster and better than IE. Is that true?

I've been using Firfox almost exclusively for about a year. I went to IE a few days ago to try a website that wouldn't load in Firefox, and couldn't believe how slow IE was.
24 posted on 10/19/2005 10:43:26 PM PDT by birbear (Admit it. you clicked on the "I have already previewed" button without actually previewing the post.)
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To: sergeantdave
I've read it's faster and better than IE. Is that true?

Convoluted answer here... On the largest percentage of web pages that use web standard coding, FF renders the page faster than IE. HOWEVER, since MS has enjoyed a monopoly in many areas of software, there are a significant number of web pages out there that were coded using (for instance) MS Frontpage software and or Active X. These are non-standard pages (unless you are a die-hard MS koolaide drinker) and will give Firefox/Mozilla fits. (It should be pointed out that one of the BIG reasons that IE is so insecure is because it supports axtive-x - which allows web pages to download and execute stuff on your machine without your even knowing its doing it..) For these pages, you will need to keep IE handy (although I have started avoiding them. IF they want me to visit, they need to redo their pages to be more standard-friendly...)

I use Firefox, and have used it since before it was to the 1.0 version. I'm keeping it.

25 posted on 10/19/2005 10:51:32 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (What part of John 14:6 don't you get?)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
i don't know for certain, but i believe that one no longer needs to remove the previous version to upgrade to the new one.

I'm not sure if it is recommended anymore or not. I just do it as a matter of course (and because I've learned that Windows is less flakey that way!) If you're on a Windows machine, it shouldn't matter anyway because, as you say, all the stuff that needs to be remembered is in the profile folder and not the program folder (as long as you don't tell add/remove to remove them!)

26 posted on 10/19/2005 10:55:44 PM PDT by NoCmpromiz (What part of John 14:6 don't you get?)
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

I should explain I mean they will be there, but I get a note saying I need an update for bugmenot or something....I don't know exactly, it has been awhile since I updated.


27 posted on 10/19/2005 11:33:38 PM PDT by rwfromkansas (http://www.xanga.com/home.aspx?user=rwfromkansas)
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To: rwfromkansas
I keep having popups that there are new versions, but I am getting annoyed at having to reinstall all the extensions etc. so I have just stopped for now.

You need this:

MR Tech Local Install

28 posted on 10/20/2005 1:24:06 AM PDT by Knitebane (Happily Microsoft free since 1999.)
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To: Knitebane

One neat little feature of Firefox is the ability to increase {or decrease} the font size of articles simply by using the control + keys {or control - to decrease size}. This is really great when you flip from article to article on different locations. It is really a boon for people suffering from "old man's eyes" {such as USS Alaska}.


29 posted on 10/20/2005 5:44:42 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Nuke the terrorist savages - In Honor of Standing Wolf)
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To: Panerai

I use it also. I have had much less problems than when I had IE. However, the primary reason for that is because hackers are not writing viruses for it yet. If it becomes too popular, they will start. Wonder when that will be. Looks like soon as popular as it is getting.


30 posted on 10/20/2005 5:59:00 AM PDT by jim_trent
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To: jim_trent
However, the primary reason for that is because hackers are not writing viruses for it yet. If it becomes too popular, they will start.

If that was the case wouldn't their be more holes, viruses, and other serious security problems with Apache than with Microsoft IIS?

31 posted on 10/20/2005 6:29:20 AM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: rwfromkansas
but I am getting annoyed at having to reinstall all the extensions etc.

The extensions should be there after you update. When you first run Firefox again, it will look for updates to the extensions that are compatible with the new Firefox and warn you of which ones don't have compatible updates.

32 posted on 10/20/2005 8:45:41 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: NoCmpromiz; sergeantdave
These are non-standard pages (unless you are a die-hard MS koolaide drinker) and will give Firefox/Mozilla fits

There only one thing for which IE is better than Firefox. It's not just MS-specific pages that render better in IE, but pages with broken HTML in general. IE is much more forgiving for these pages.

33 posted on 10/20/2005 8:48:00 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Well, since they keep releasing new versions, and I know I've downloaded at least seven of them, the download count certainly doesn't equal the user count. A nice try, though. ;)

I've downloaded it several times. OTOH, I've also used the same downloaded installer on multiple computers. If you're a business, you've downloaded it once and installed in possibly hundreds. But then we have the people like you, and the people who have downloaded it only to remove it.

SWAG, maybe max 70 million computers running Firefox off of those 100 million downloads.

34 posted on 10/20/2005 8:48:25 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Mr. Jeeves

Just a thought... Many Linux distros package FireFox so there are workstations ouththere running it that have neverdownloaded off the site...


35 posted on 10/20/2005 10:43:01 AM PDT by N3WBI3 (If SCO wants to go fishing they should buy a permit and find a lake like the rest of us..)
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To: Panerai
The beauty of Open-Source.

Have been using Firefox for a little over a year now, and it's probably the most reliable thing on my folks' computer.

Though I still can't convince my dad to switch over from Netscape 6 to Firefox :(

36 posted on 10/20/2005 12:01:43 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (Liberalism: How can we stick our feet in our mouth today??)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Do you have a link for the BBCode download for Mac?

I got the Firefox download for Mac with no trouble, and it works fine - but your recommendation about the BBCode for fromatting was what motivated me to try it. And I'm having no luck getting it.

37 posted on 10/20/2005 1:01:28 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: jess35

Same here. Way less problems with firefox..great browser


38 posted on 10/20/2005 1:03:36 PM PDT by binkdeville
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

I am pretty sure the xpi is cross platform.

http://jedbrown.net/1.0/mozilla/extensions/


39 posted on 10/20/2005 1:13:18 PM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget (God punishes Conservatives by making them argue with fools.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
OK, I went there and clicked install - gave permission, and it told me to restart Firefox. Interesting that it didn't need to ask me my Unix password . . .

[I]is this italics?[/I]

I don't see any help for HTML

40 posted on 10/20/2005 3:19:30 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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