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Patient wants to live, but old 'living will' mandates death
WorldNetDaily ^ | 10/20/05 | Diana Lynne

Posted on 10/20/2005 5:52:22 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: freema

Thank you, freema. I want you to know that I'm praying for your Marine.


401 posted on 11/09/2005 9:15:31 PM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: Hildy; BykrBayb; admin; old424; kalintabby; The in-law

He does know it all about this case, Hildy. He is Jimmy Chambers's son and my brother. Your insults and vicious attitude about what happened to my Dad are becoming disgusting. In your private email to me, you blamed it all on BykrBayb and you said you would discontinue. I have been out of town for 3 days, expecting to catch up on this thread and all I see is your vicious rant. What is wrong with you? Hildy, you have made GROSS assumptions about this case and you are wrong on every one of them. You have attacked me and attacked my family. I'm asking you to stop, but somehow I doubt that you will. You have singlehandedly turned a debate into a hurtful, vicious screaming match. What on earth is wrong with you?


402 posted on 11/10/2005 2:59:05 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: yellowdoghunter

Ping to yellowdoghunter


403 posted on 11/10/2005 3:00:56 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: DadsGirl; admin; old424; kalintabby; The in-law; BykrBayb
I truly don't know what you're talking about. I wrote a very nice note to you on the public forum and to make sure you read it, I sent you this, privately. I'm posting it because I want everyone to decide for themselves if this constitutes a vicious attack here at FreeRepublic.

I hope you read my last post to you...I can't post anymore because Bykrbab has a habit of stalking me. And I'm just too tired to play her game anymore. I meant what I said. I know what it's like to lose a Father you adore. I cry every single day. This thread shouldn't have become a political one,and I'm so sorry if I said things that added to your pain. The next few months will be awful for you and I pray you will find it in your heart to forgive. Anyway, I wanted to make sure you saw that last post and not the ones with bykerbab. Good luck to you.

To the Moderator, is that a scathing letter in your estimation? I don't know what the vicious attacks I said about you and your family were. I said I wouldn't post anymore because everytime I post to someone, bykrbabe injects herself into the conversation and it was growing tiresome. That is not vicious, that is just the truth.

The fact of the matter is that I'm the only one being attacked here. I just wanted to set the record straight.

404 posted on 11/10/2005 7:03:34 AM PST by Hildy
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To: wagglebee

To me the interesting thing is this..... it seems a lot easier to sit in the recliner or the lawywer's office and say "I don't want to be connected to any ole' life support systems when it's my time to go".... than it is to say that when it may be your time to go.


405 posted on 11/10/2005 7:05:32 AM PST by kjam22
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To: DadsGirl
You have attacked me and attacked my family.

I would guess that the word "attack" has different meanings to different people. For instance, I could never consider things that people might write about me on a web site as an "attack". Now if they broke into my home and tried to "attack" me... that would be an attack.

I'm certainly not the person who can set things straight... except to say that I think some people may need a little more to do in life for a period of time. Something to keep themselves busy.... so they can avoid being "attacked". :)

406 posted on 11/10/2005 7:09:48 AM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22
I'd say that yes, "attack" is the right word and that Dadsgirl nailed it on the head. She was viley and rudely attacked, as was her brother.

"at·tack ( P ) Pronunciation Key (-tk) v. at·tacked, at·tack·ing, at·tacks v. tr. To set upon with violent force. To criticize strongly or in a hostile manner. To start work on with purpose and vigor: attack a problem. To begin to affect harmfully: a disease that attacks the central nervous system." from dictionary.com.

Yes, I'd say that was the right word.

As for your last paragraph, that's disgusting....she just lost her father, possibly to murder, and you're telling her to go do something else instead of what she's doing, which is perfectly satisfactory for her to be doing.

If you don't agree with her, fine, then leave her and her family alone.

407 posted on 11/10/2005 8:17:54 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: DadsGirl
May God Bless you and your family.
408 posted on 11/10/2005 8:33:39 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Hildy; admin; old424; kalintabby; The in-law; BykrBayb

I believe I have discovered what the problem is. Hildy, you didn't either read my post, or you didn't comprehend it. What I said about your private email to me was correct----you blamed the nature of the conversation on BykrBayb, just as I said. You also promised to stop this bickering, but when I returned, I see that you just won't stop. The nature of your comments are personal and hurtful, beginning with your post to me asking if I would visit Dad every day. The insinuation that I had no right to fight for his life in such a sarcastic question was absurd and intended to denigrate. Besides that, your question came after his death and you hadn't even bothered to read enough to find out that he had passed.

I did appreciate the nature of your email to me, but it is certainly different from the posts that you have put in this thread. I don't know why you can't discuss the issue without the attacks, but I personally will no longer respond to you. I honestly don't know what is wrong that you can't seem to debate the question without the hurtful rhetoric.


409 posted on 11/10/2005 8:38:33 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

And God's blessings on you. Thank you for reading ALL of the posts in an attempt to understand the true nature of what has happened in here. I'm finding that the Freepers are a terrific group of people.


410 posted on 11/10/2005 8:41:25 AM PST by DadsGirl ("Come to Me all who are weary and heavy laden, and I will give you rest." Jesus Christ)
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To: DadsGirl

This is the problem...after I wrote that personal email to you, I didn't post again. You went back and read posts from before my last one to you. Old ones. And I said I wasn't going to post anymore because bykerbayb always reponds to my posts even when they're not directed to her, and she does that to inflame already heightened passions. I'll say this for the last time, because I've said it before. I AGREE WITH YOU. I BELIEVE YOU. You even wrote me back and thanked me! I feel nothing but sorrow for what you're going through. You can choose to believe me or not. But let's just end this, ok?


411 posted on 11/10/2005 10:05:37 AM PST by Hildy
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
If you don't agree with her, fine, then leave her and her family alone.

You see... this is how misunderstandings get put in place. I've only posted one post to her in this whole thread. But someone who might stumble along and read your post to me..... well they might think that I've been harrassing somebody. Leave her and her family alone???? When in reality I posted one thought to her (that you disagreed with )..... and that wasn't really to you. And I dont' mind discussing with you, but should I feel like your attacking me now???

My point is this.... it's the internet guys. Nobody is making anybody be here, post, or read posts. Everybody that is here is here by choice.

I think it's a little silly to say "leave her and her family alone" when you read this whole thread and find only one post from me to her. In fact... if you read the entire database of freerepublic, I'm pretty sure you'll find only one post from me to her.... and none to her family that I know of.

I'm sorry her father is gone too. I remember when my father passed away. I had better things to do then than argue with people on the internet. But that's just me.

You guys have a great day.

412 posted on 11/10/2005 11:19:21 AM PST by kjam22
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To: VoiceOfBruck

right to life ping


413 posted on 11/10/2005 11:23:37 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: kjam22
Your alleged one post to her was odious enough.

There is no misunderstanding in what you said.

Don't you have something better to do than post on the internet an insolent post(s) to a woman grieving for her father?

414 posted on 11/10/2005 11:54:45 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
Your alleged one post to her was odious enough.

LOL..... :) Odious enough for what? To be considered criminal intent? To be considered harrassing? To be considered attacking? To warrant the police coming to my house and questioning me? Or just odious enough to warrant a response from you? :)

Grieving for her father? It sounded more like she was arguing with other posters about whether or not she was being attacked. I'm not saying she isn't grieving.... but I am saying that wasn't what the post was about that I responded to.

Just so there is really no misunderstanding what I said.... let me put it this way. It looks like she joined FR a few days ago so that she could discuss and or argue with people here who were discussing a news article about her father. Am I missing something?

415 posted on 11/10/2005 12:20:15 PM PST by kjam22
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To: kjam22
To start off with you need to look up the word "odious". It has nothing to do with criminal intent nor harrassing.

I wasn't accusing you of any such thing.

I just think that a little respect should be shown to one who so recently lost her father.

I don't know if you've been following these "pro-life" threads nor if you know the history of some of the posters.

I looked at your profile finally and I guess I can forgive you for now since you are a fellow Okie.

:)

416 posted on 11/11/2005 7:56:19 AM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor
:) No problem ....

Go Sooners!! ??

You know I'm very much pro-life. I think pro-life is pretty well described in John 11: 25-26.

Best wishes and have a great weekend!

417 posted on 11/11/2005 8:15:33 AM PST by kjam22
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To: DadsGirl

You've summed it very well. I've been absent for days, and she's still blaming me for her bad behavior, without so much as a courtesy ping. I'm not going to bother giving her one either. I hope she stumbles onto this, and gets offended all over again. She seems to thrive on that.

You remain in my thoughts and prayers.


418 posted on 11/11/2005 6:46:53 PM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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To: BykrBayb
Glad to see you again.
419 posted on 11/11/2005 7:24:52 PM PST by Freedom Dignity n Honor (There are permanent moral truths.)
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To: Freedom Dignity n Honor

Thanks. It's been a busy week.


420 posted on 11/15/2005 11:10:12 AM PST by BykrBayb (Impeach Judge Greer - In memory of Terri <strike>Schiavo</strike> Schindler - www.terrisfight.org)
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