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The numbers speak for themseves. The Ras poll is the one many of you cite when stating that the other polls are bogus. Now that these have fallen to the same levels, what say you?

Does anyone see the polls hitting bottom anytime soon? I feel it may be too late at this point(obviously not for Bush but for other GOP candidates in '05 and '06, and judicial candidates). Bush should have fought back against all of the lies the past couple of years, as should the GOP leadership.

Their unwillingness to fight back against the outrageous charges has done immeasurable damage to the perception of the GOP - for years to come.

What a disgrace

1 posted on 10/21/2005 10:38:46 AM PDT by NYC Republican
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"Just 33% give the President good or excellent ratings for his handling of the situation in Iraq. Thirty-nine percent (39%) say the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terrorism."

This number could not speak louder as to the reason for the over all low numbers. Right now people are over loaded with what they think is bad news. They hear about DeLay, but very few understand what it is about. Same for Rove/Libby situation. You have the print and electronic conservatives attacking W everyday. All of this aside the fact that just 33% are happy with the Iraq war effort shows the people being spoken to have not the foggiest idea about how to back up there complaint. This is because there are no grounds for this, especially coming right after the very successful balloting last weekend.
We will continue to see polls like this for a while but how about asking these questions: Can you name anything positive that the Democrat party stands for? When 85% say "No", then ask "Now that you have considered alternatives would you vote to have a different party in charge of our government?" I think the numbers would be a bit different.
30 posted on 10/21/2005 11:40:44 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Bring the troops home means bring the war home.)
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If you had watched Brit and the All Stars last night, you would know that this is normal for ALL Presidents during their second term. Fred Barnes said that just when you think a President is down and out, BAM he comes back stronger than before.

LLS


31 posted on 10/21/2005 11:46:17 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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Meaningless. American change their minds more frequently than they do their underwear.


34 posted on 10/21/2005 11:51:03 AM PDT by verity (Don't let your children grow up to be mainstream media maggots.)
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So what? The big mistake here is the idea that the Democrats will NECESSARILY benefit from this. How? The approval numbers for congressional Democrats are even lower!


38 posted on 10/21/2005 12:22:02 PM PDT by fhlime
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To: NYC Republican; frankjr; RexBeach; Danae; Perdogg; luvbach1; Altair333; fizziwig; fatteddy; ...

HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE:

THE REAGAN PRESIDENCY FADES INTO IT'S TWILIGHT
CQ Weekly October 17, 1987

. . . It was vintage Reagan: flinty-eyed, sure of his aces. The terse words evoked the "make my day" challenge he had once used to wither Democratic talk of tax increases.

But this time it boomeranged. BORK'S nomination quickly plunged toward a resounding and stunning defeat, and much of the commentary that followed had the pall of a post-mortem on Reagan's political career.

This was not just any lost cause. It had been Reagan's self-proclaimed "No. 1 domestic priority." And it had been a cause that most thought Reagan could have won -- and should have won.

The label of "lame duck" which some had tried to paste on Reagan just days after his landslide re-election in 1984, seemed at long last to stick. Reaganism . . . now clearly seems to be a spent force.

. . . "It's variable when lame-ducking begins," notes Nelson W. Polsby, professor of political science at the University of Califronia at Berkeley. "With Reagan, you would have thought it would be later. But it began with Iran-contra."

Following revelations of arms sales to Iran . . . Reagan's Gallup Poll ratings took a 23-point nose dive. It was said to be the most precipitous decline in a president's approval rating since Gallup began asking questions.

. . . Democrats were quick to cite Reykjavik as evidence that Reagan was out of touch with, even uncomprehending of, the details of his administration.

That portrait was vividly reinforced by the Iran-contra revelations and even by the Bork episode, in which Reagan lost not only his confrontation with the Senate but his control of the situation. He stood by seeming helpless while a defeated Bork refused to withdraw, prolonging the embarrassment and delaying the choice of another nominee."

. . . Failing in the legislative branch, many social-agenda conservatives have come to see Reagan's choices for the judicial branch as their hope. After all, decisions from the bench -- particularly the Supreme Court -- have been their nemesis.

"The failure on this (Bork) nomination is very significant," says Rep. Vin Weber, R-Minn. "This is where the President (was supposed to) deliver on the social agenda." . . . "


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm . . . The more things change, the more they stay the same! And, oh yea, polls mean so much in determining a President's legacy -- NOT!!


41 posted on 10/21/2005 12:33:35 PM PDT by DrDeb
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I say Bush is MIERed in his own muck of a choice and Gas prices are biting him in the arse too!


42 posted on 10/21/2005 12:40:15 PM PDT by funkywbr
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. . . a POSITIVE poll from a RELEVANT CONSTITUENCY! [It's as meaningful as any of the other polls posted at FU}


PRESIDENTIAL PRAYER TEAM
This nonpartisan 'team' is comprised of Christians/Catholics/Believers from across the country. Last week, they were asked to evaluate the President's job performance -- here is what they had to say:

SUMMARY
There have been over 75,000 results to our President Bush Job Performance Survey. The results are displayed below.
(Results may not add up to 100% because of non-responses or because multiple answers were allowed for the question)

How do you feel about the job the President is doing?

82.7% Excellent job
12.3% Doing only a so-so job
03.1% Not doing very well

Bottomline: I trust a poll of 75,000 informed respondents MUCH more than the typical (MSM) poll of 1,000 clueless 'adults'!!!

You can read additional results at
http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/site/PageServer?pagename=pptnn_landing_0510b1&autologin=true&JServSessionIdr012=2s9tph4xj3.app23a



43 posted on 10/21/2005 12:41:17 PM PDT by DrDeb
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I think his numbers would be substantially higher if the MSM actually reported the news instead of operating as a Democrat hit machine. Their "reporting" on the war (and many other issues) is near treasonous. Good news is suppressed and bad news is hyped to the limit or in some cases just plain made up.


46 posted on 10/21/2005 12:59:41 PM PDT by jrp
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Thirty-nine percent (39%) say the U.S. and its allies are winning the War on Terrorism.

My opinion of the poll notwithstanding, but if the people they polled are THIS unknowledgible about the WOT, then I disregard the people polled as a bunch of morons.
54 posted on 10/21/2005 4:48:36 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (Pwner of Noobs)
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I feel it may be too late at this point(obviously not for Bush but for other GOP candidates in '05 and '06, and judicial candidates).

The ephemera of gloom and doom is getting the better of you, friend. Don't lock yourself in the Prison of the Moment of Now and throw away the key.

Today is not tomorrow.

56 posted on 10/21/2005 5:05:51 PM PDT by AHerald ("Do not fear, only believe" - Mark 5:36)
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Off-year election polls are as useful as teats on a boar.

Should we expect a series of these threads from you?
57 posted on 10/21/2005 5:10:24 PM PDT by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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58 posted on 10/21/2005 6:26:20 PM PDT by Colonial Warrior ("I've entered the snapdragon part of my life ....Part of me has snapped...the rest is draggin'.")
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