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Dish Network Pulls Outdoor Life Network [No Hockey for DISH owners]
Yahoo ^ | 10/21/05 | SANDY SHORE

Posted on 10/21/2005 12:59:46 PM PDT by ZGuy

The owner of The Dish Network said Thursday it pulled the Outdoor Life Network from its system after the cable channel failed to provide NHL games to the nation's second-largest satellite television provider.

EchoStar Communications Corp. spokesman Marc Lumpkin said the network did not show games on Oct. 10-11 and on Monday and Tuesday as advertised. "We were not given advance notice that they would not show the programming," he said.

Although best known for broadcasting the Tour de France and cyclist Lance Armstrong, OLN this fall took over broadcasting National Hockey League games on cable from ESPN, a unit of The Walt Disney Co.

"We are surprised and disappointed that Dish has unilaterally chosen to stop providing OLN to its customers, and denied fans the opportunity to watch sports coverage on OLN," spokeswoman Amy Phillips said.

The contract dispute between EchoStar and OLN revolves around OLN's placement in a higher-priced channel package by Dish Network, which is distributed to fewer viewers.

OLN, owned by cable giant Comcast Corp., set a requirement that the channel must be seen by 40 percent of a cable or satellite TV system's viewers in order for it to broadcast the NHL games. It said the Dish Network has failed to meet that requirement.

Lumpkin declined to comment on the specifics of the dispute.

EchoStar would have to move the channel from its top package to a lower-cost package that may have fewer channels but more viewers. That would raise the fees Dish Network viewers pay.

"We work hard to provide choice for customers and to keep prices low," Eric Sahl, an EchoStar senior vice president, said in a statement. "Most of our customers have made the decision they do not want to pay the additional cost of watching the channel."

EchoStar hasn't been afraid to take on networks before. In March 2004, it pulled Viacom Inc. programming — including MTV, the Comedy Channel and Nickelodeon — from the Dish Network for two days until an agreement was struck on a long-term contract.

Based in suburban Englewood, EchoStar's Dish Network has about 11.4 million customers.


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: charliechatscat; hockey; nhl; oln; outdoorlife; satellitetv; sportsmen
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1 posted on 10/21/2005 12:59:47 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: ZGuy

Go get 'em, Charlie.


2 posted on 10/21/2005 1:00:55 PM PDT by John W
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To: Hat-Trick

Ping!


3 posted on 10/21/2005 1:03:03 PM PDT by ZGuy
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To: John W

I wondered what happened to the Stars game on OLN that night. Tuned in and instead of hockey, they were showing some bear hunting thing.

Fortunately, we also have basic cable with OLN and they were showing the hockey game. We wondered why OLN on Comcast cable had it, but OLN on DISH did not.

We'd have really been pi@@ed if not for the cable OLN.


4 posted on 10/21/2005 1:06:23 PM PDT by ShakeNJake
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To: ZGuy

All these "packages" are lame. Just offer cable/satellite ala carte and let me choose what I want to watch...


5 posted on 10/21/2005 1:06:35 PM PDT by frogjerk (LIBERALISM - Being miserable for no good reason)
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To: ZGuy
Don't really know what the fuss is all about. The NHL Players and Owners proved that the NHL was very dispensable when they trashed the season so I would think that they would be giving broadcast rights away in order to bring fans back - If such is possible.

Perhaps OLN is reaching too far, attempting to get more out of their NHL contract than is realty there?

6 posted on 10/21/2005 1:08:56 PM PDT by TCats
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To: ShakeNJake

OLN is shown on basic Comcast cable because they own OLN. They're trying to package and position it as psuedo ESPN 2 or Fox Sports Net.

I'm on an Adelphia system that was purchased by Comcast and expect OLN to get moved to expanded basic down two tiers from the second digital package that cost $70 something a month with ZERO movie channels.


7 posted on 10/21/2005 1:10:35 PM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: ZGuy
OMG!

No hockey on cable?
Whatever am I going to do!

< /sarc >

8 posted on 10/21/2005 1:18:31 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Liberal level playing field: If the Islamics win we are their slaves..if we win they are our equals.)
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To: ZGuy

There's hockey on TV?

Who knew?


9 posted on 10/21/2005 1:26:09 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: ZGuy

What's hockey? Is that anything like soccor?


10 posted on 10/21/2005 1:29:28 PM PDT by Huck (Miers Miers Miers Miers Miers--I'm mired in Miers.)
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To: airborne; SZonian; retrokitten; hollywood; Alberta's Child; 6323cd; Betis70; ColoCdn; k2afe; ...
Hockey Ping!

The NHL and the networks covering this league are really doing their best to piss me off - between stunts like this and an antiquated black-out policy governing the Center Ice package - I've pretty much given up trying to follow this league on TV this year.

Freep mail/ping airborne or Hat-Trick if you want on or off the Hockey Ping List.

11 posted on 10/21/2005 1:31:06 PM PDT by Hat-Trick (Do you trust a government that cannot trust you with guns?)
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To: frogjerk
All these "packages" are lame. Just offer cable/satellite ala carte and let me choose what I want to watch...

I wish it were so. Back when I had a big C-Band, you could essentially do that, and it was way cheaper, which i guess is why they don't do it that way on mini-Dishes.

13 posted on 10/21/2005 1:45:40 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (Go Astros!)
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To: Hat-Trick
I called Dish Network and spoke with a representative from FSN (Fox Sports Network) and explained what my problem was (Pens fan in Flyers territory) and they gave me a subscription to the Pittsburgh channel for $5.99 a month,

I get the Pittsburgh feed for all the Penguin games.I don't pay for anything but 'Burgh games.

I just wish we would win!!!!!

14 posted on 10/21/2005 1:52:28 PM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I got censored?! Sorry, but I take hockey seriously! (sometimes too much so)

Sorry again.

15 posted on 10/21/2005 1:55:06 PM PDT by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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To: ZGuy
The NHL has to seriously go after Comcast on this. The NHL has enough problems as it is without this.
16 posted on 10/21/2005 1:56:28 PM PDT by Moral Hazard ("Now therefore kill every male among the little ones" - Numbers 31:17)
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To: airborne

Don't worry, I've got nothing against hockey.

My remark was more a knock on the NHL for missing all of last year and winding up on OLN in the first place.


17 posted on 10/21/2005 2:01:46 PM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Hat-Trick

Is it Sports Channel part Deux?

Glad I have Center Ice. Loving being able to switch between 3-4 games and the find the one with the best play (surprisingly Carolina-Toronto the other night).


18 posted on 10/21/2005 2:06:55 PM PDT by Betis70 (Every generation needs a new revolution)
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To: ZGuy

You mean there are actually people who want to watch hockey on television? Amazing!


19 posted on 10/21/2005 2:30:07 PM PDT by Continental Soldier
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To: ZGuy
No Hockey! KILL ME! KILL ME NOW!

Oh, I forgot. I'm Texan, have basic cable, not Dish, and could not care less about some silly northerners slipping around on the ice whacking at a biscuit.

:)

20 posted on 10/21/2005 2:35:10 PM PDT by LibKill (Beer is proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. - Benjamin Franklin)
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