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No God But Jehovah, DespiteWhat Bush Says At RamadanBanquet
Koenig's International News ^ | 10-19-05 | Bill Wilson

Posted on 10/23/2005 6:55:51 AM PDT by truthandlife

President George W. Bush has terribly misspoken about the true word of God and is likely to experience consequences in response to his errant remarks and beliefs that were pronounced publicly at the fifth annual Ramadan Banquet held in the State Dining Room at the White House.

Some quotes of note: “We must also firmly oppose all who commit evil in God's name.”…” I have great confidence in the future of this nation, and in the future of the Muslim world.”…” As we celebrate this special Iftaar, we renew the ties of friendship that bind all those who trace their faith back to God's call on Abraham.”…” Ramadan is the holiest time of the Muslim year. According to Islamic teaching, this month commemorates the revelation of God's word to the Prophet Muhammad in the form of the Koran. For more than a billion Muslims, Ramadan is a time of heartfelt prayer and togetherness. It is a time of fasting and personal sacrifice. It's a time to give thanks for God's blessings through works of charity.”

These were not the words of an Islamic cleric, but rather the words of the President of the United States as he welcomed Muslim leaders to the White House for his fifth annual Ramadan Banquet in the State Dining Room. The President initiated the “Iftaar” to foster better relations between Americans and Islam after the 9/11 terrorist attacks. It has become a tradition at the White House.

To the poltically correct this is a wonderful ecumenical, inter-faith outreach, but, Biblically it is a form of abomination in the very least, if not blasphemy. The President has made extraordinarily false claims equating the god of Islam with the one true God as he receives Islam rather than being salt and light to it.

The President has terribly misspoken. Allah and Jehovah are not the same. Muhammad, did not receive a “revelation of God’s word,” as was so aptly put by the President. Muhammad’s so-called revelation came thousands of years after God’s Biblical revelations and hundreds of years after Christ. Muhammad made up Allah and wrote a book designed not to foster friendship, but rather to continue enmity between Jews and Arabs. Muhmmad has perpetrated the creulist hoax upon millions of people—they believe in a non-existant god that will only result in the eternity of hell. That any Christian, let alone a Christian President dare claim Muhammad received a revelation from “God” is bordering heresey.

There is no other God than Jehovah. In Exodus 20:3, God commanded, “Thou shalt have no other gods before me.” And in Ezekiel 3:18, God says, “When I say unto the wicked, You shall surely die; and you give him no warning, nor speak to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at your hand.”

The President is ignoring the word of God to patronize a false religion when he professes to know the truth, and the blood shall be on his hand. These are very dangerous proclamations made by the President because they not only reflect upon him, but also upon the nation he leads.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Islam
KEYWORDS: allah; bush; christianity; islam; jehovah
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To: The Iguana

Why doesn't he go to the Church of Satan then? They also have beliefs in a Diety.


41 posted on 10/23/2005 7:50:37 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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To: hispanichoosier
but the original deity would seem to be the same one.

There is a huge difference:
their god requires that they sacrifice their sons to him -
my God sacrificed His Son for me.

One in the same I do not think so.
43 posted on 10/23/2005 7:53:41 AM PDT by roylene
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To: truthandlife
I always thought of the Creator as the same guy for all of us. If I understand the Good News properly, jihadists seem to have sidestepped the message somehow, although I doubt they were watching out for it that carefully. On the other hand, Christians seemed to have misread it a while back as well, and we continue to do so from time to time. I surely hope he is as merciful as I have been led to believe.

For the most part Christians seem to have matured over the decades. Yet we still need the occasional reminder.

Sometimes, when some imam somewhere, or some muktar counsels the death of infidels, I wonder to myself how many Muslims would need to be counseled with extreme prejudice before the idea of a jihad would lose its appeal. When France completes the transition to a muslin country you will have one that is a nuclear power. So the question has meaning.

Maybe avian flu will render the problem moot.

44 posted on 10/23/2005 8:00:11 AM PDT by stevem
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To: Yehuda

bump


45 posted on 10/23/2005 8:02:16 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: montag813
Say what you want about Rudy Giuliani regarding abortion. Rudy would NEVER be caught dead uttering such despicable words as did George W. Bush at this Satanic gathering. NEVER.

Amen!

Many Bushbots have been arguing that his (Bush's) calling Islam "the religion of peace" and his slowness in identifying the enemy as something other the WOT is a clever strategy. But, his performance and language at this event completely dispel any conclusion other than "he still doesn't get it."

Anyone who has read the Koran and the Bible can tell that the muslim Allah and Jehovah are not only not the same person...they are antithetical to each other.

This report of the President's comments is very bad news, indeed.

46 posted on 10/23/2005 8:21:07 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: PokeyJoe
Why doesn't he go to the Church of Satan then? They also have beliefs in a Diety

Actually, the Church of Satan expressly doesn not believe in a deity. Of course, there are perhaps fewer than a couple hundred LaVeyan Satanists still walking around these days.

But they do serve well as straw men worldwide.

47 posted on 10/23/2005 8:26:25 AM PDT by Wormwood (Iä! Iä! Cthulhu fhtagn!)
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To: hispanichoosier

part correct, while they claim Abraham is their father, they deny that Isaac and Jacob are part of the promised line of the Messiah. They believe Ishmael is that line, and that is in direct contradiction to the Bible.

They also deny Jesus died on the Cross and they also deny he was resurrected alive 3 days later.

There is no way Allah is a Biblical faith under any circumstance.


48 posted on 10/23/2005 8:27:13 AM PDT by RaceBannon ((Prov 28:1 KJV) The wicked flee when no man pursueth: but the righteous are bold as a lion.)
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To: truthandlife

Reads as though Bush places more faith in Masonic thinking than in thinking in faith through Christ.


49 posted on 10/23/2005 8:33:09 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Bringbackthedraft
Hey, look at the bright side, you may come back as a rabbit in Austraila.

Better than a gerbil in San Francisco.

50 posted on 10/23/2005 8:34:28 AM PDT by Cvengr (<;^))
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To: Wormwood

straw men hell, I just want equal representation.


51 posted on 10/23/2005 8:42:06 AM PDT by PokeyJoe (There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those that don't.)
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To: manwiththehands
President Bush needs to put the crack pipe away and stop pandering to the Muslims. He sounds foolish. We are at war with this "religion" BECAUSE of their beliefs.

I think he understands that we are at war, and it's actually you who looks foolish.

You get to sit and rant, he has a harder job than you. He actually has to achieve diplomatic relationships with these people.

52 posted on 10/23/2005 8:44:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog; manwiththehands
We are at war with this "religion" BECAUSE of their beliefs.

Do you disagree with that statement?

53 posted on 10/23/2005 8:49:47 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

We are at war with terrorism. If we are really at war with all of Islam, may the real God please stand up, because it will ~NEVER~ end. It'd be irresponsible for any president to declare such a war, or refuse to work toward some kind of lasting relationship with reasonable forces within Islam.

I have no love for Muslims. But I have no respect for fundamentalists of any stripe who condemn everybody else. I'd love it if, as it turns out, you're all wrong. That'd be funny as heck.


54 posted on 10/23/2005 8:59:36 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog
We are at war with terrorism.

Even the President has admitted that isn't true. In his last speech he said we were at war with "radical islam, islamofascism, etc."

If you read the Koran and the Hadiths, you will see that together they comprise a kind of "Mein Kampf." Like Nazism, Islam is unified by an undercurrent of anger and hatred, which is why it often expresses itself in destruction.

If our leaders in this War don't understand who the enemy is, how can we hope for victory.

The goal of Islam is the establishment of a world caliphate in which the only permitted religion is Islam.

There are many fine moderate muslims in the world. But it is the hardliners that rule Islam...and they are only doing what Allah commands. And Allah has commanded that everyone either converts to Islam, is subjugated as a dhimmi...or dies.

55 posted on 10/23/2005 9:16:03 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: Dark Skies

I understand the forces at work here, and so, thankfully, does our president.


56 posted on 10/23/2005 9:17:34 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog
I understand the forces at work here, and so, thankfully, does our president.

I hope you are right about the President. This speech raises some serious doubts, however.

I am not one to criticize the President. But if, out of a desire to be magnanimous or noble, he misunderstands the inherent evil in Islam, the consequences could be huge.

And he has certainly sent some mixed signals regarding this matter.

57 posted on 10/23/2005 9:24:19 AM PDT by Dark Skies ("A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants." -- Churchill)
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To: truthandlife

President Bush did not mis-speak, and he did not equate God and Allah. That sentenced was prefaced "According to the teachings of Islam . . ." That is absolutely a true statement of Islamic teachings. Bush said that Islam traces it's beginnings back to Abraham. Also true.

Bush didn't say that he, personally, believed any of it, or that Islamic teachings were true. The guy who wrote this piece needs to learn to listen carefully. Bush spoke no falsehood or blasphemy here.


58 posted on 10/23/2005 9:36:06 AM PDT by walden
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To: MineralMan
"Actually, he parks cars at Yankee Stadium"

I thought he drove a cab. He sure did the last time I was in NYC.

Actually, you're both wrong. He's the center for the world-champion San Antonio Spurs!


59 posted on 10/23/2005 9:41:05 AM PDT by AlaninSA (It's ONE NATION UNDER GOD...brought to you by the Knights of Columbus)
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To: Puppage

I was going to say he might have a newspaper booth at the Minneapolis airport...


60 posted on 10/23/2005 9:47:09 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Troubled by NOLA looting ? You ain't seen nothing yet.)
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