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Young Singers Spread Racist Hate (Racist BARF alert)
ABC News.com ^ | 10-20-05 | ABC News

Posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:10 AM PDT by Danae

Duo Considered the Olsen Twins of the White Nationalist Movement

Oct. 20, 2005 — Thirteen-year-old twins Lamb and Lynx Gaede have one album out, another on the way, a music video, and lots of fans.

They may remind you another famous pair of singers, the Olsen Twins, and the girls say they like that. But unlike the Olsens, who built a media empire on their fun-loving, squeaky-clean image, Lamb and Lynx are cultivating a much darker personna. They are white nationalists and use their talents to preach a message of hate.

Known as "Prussian Blue" — a nod to their German heritage and bright blue eyes — the girls from Bakersfield, Calif., have been performing songs about white nationalism before all-white crowds since they were nine.

"We're proud of being white, we want to keep being white," said Lynx. "We want our people to stay white … we don't want to just be, you know, a big muddle. We just want to preserve our race."

Lynx and Lamb have been nurtured on racist beliefs since birth by their mother April. "They need to have the background to understand why certain things are happening," said April, a stay-at-home mom who no longer lives with the twins' father. "I'm going to give them, give them my opinion just like any, any parent would."

April home-schools the girls, teaching them her own unique perspective on everything from current to historical events. In addition, April's father surrounds the family with symbols of his beliefs — specifically the Nazi swastika. It appears on his belt buckle, on the side of his pick-up truck and he's even registered it as his cattle brand with the Bureau of Livestock Identification.

"Because it's provocative," explains April of the cattle brand, "to him he thinks it's important as a symbol of freedom of speech that he can use it as his cattle brand."

Teaching Hate

Songs like "Sacrifice" — a tribute to Nazi Rudolf Hess, Hitler's deputy Fuhrer — clearly show the effect of the girls' upbringing. The lyrics praise Hess as a "man of peace who wouldn't give up."

"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.

On that point, April Gaede and Ted Shaw apparently agree.

"Well, all children pretty much espouse their parents' attitudes," she said. "We're white nationalists and of course that's a part of our life and I'm going to share that part of my life with my children."

Since they began singing, the girls have become such a force in the white nationalist movement, that David Duke — the former presidential candidate, one-time Ku-Klux-Klan grand wizard and outspoken white supremacist — uses the twins to draw a crowd.

Prussian Blue supporter Erich Gliebe, operator of one of the nation's most notorious hate music labels, Resistance Records, hopes younger performers like Lynx and Lamb will help expand the base of the White Nationalist cause.

"Eleven and 12 years old," he said, "I think that's the perfect age to start grooming kids and instill in them a strong racial identity."

Gliebe, who targets young, mainstream white rockers at music festivals like this past summer's "Ozzfest," says he uses music to get his message out.

But with names like Blue-Eyed Devils and Angry Aryans, these tunes are far more extreme than the ones sung by Lamb and Lynx.

"We give them a CD, we give them something as simple as a stick, they can go to our Web site and see other music and download some of our music," said Gliebe. "To me, that's the best propaganda tool for our youth."

A Taste for Hate

Gliebe says he hopes that as younger racist listeners mature, so will their tastes for harder, angrier music like that of Shawn Sugg of Max Resist.

One of Sugg's songs is a fantasy piece about a possible future racial war that goes: "Let the cities burn, let the streets run red, if you ain't white you'll be dead."

"I'd like to compare it to gangsta rap," explained Sugg, "where they glorify, you know, shooting n****** and pimping whores."

Sugg shrugs off criticism that music like his should not be handed out to schoolyard children, arguing that "it's just music, it's not like you're handing out AK-47s."

Perhaps not, but Shaw says it's the ideas in the music that are dangerous.

"When you talk about people being dead if they're not white," said Shaw, "I don't think there is much question that that is hateful."

A Place to Call Home

Despite the success of Prussian Blue and bands like Max Resist within the White Nationalism movement, most Americans don't accept their racist message.

Like many children across the country, Lamb and Lynx decided to help the victims of Hurricane Katrina — the white ones.

The girls' donations were handed out by a White Nationalist organization who also left a pamphlet promoting their group and beliefs — some of the intended recipients were more than a little displeased.

After a day of trying, the supplies ended up with few takers, dumped at a local shop that sells Confederate memorabilia.

Last month, the girls were scheduled to perform at the local county fair in their hometown. But when some people in the community protested, Prussian Blue was removed from the line-up.

But even before that, April had decided that Bakersfield was not "white" enough, so she sold her home, and hopes that she and the girls can find an all-white community in the Pacific Northwest.


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KEYWORDS: hitlerwouldbeproud; ignorant; music; neonazi; notrap; notyournorthwest; racist; whitenationalists
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It is just sickening watching Parents subvert the innocence of their children in order to exploit them for personal gain. Sick and wrong.

FYI Girls, and Mommy dearest, STAY OUT OF MY PACIFIC NORTHWEST!!!

1 posted on 10/23/2005 9:59:11 AM PDT by Danae
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To: Danae
I don't agree with what these girls are doing, but consider this:

Rapper Ice Cube made a song in 1994 calling white women "horny little devils." All you heard were crickets chirping.

2 posted on 10/23/2005 10:01:46 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (Harmful or Fatal if Swallowed)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Probably because no one listened to it! Besides, we might well all be "horny little devils", just don't let the secret get out! LOL
LOL
ROFL
3 posted on 10/23/2005 10:04:19 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Ice Cube is a racist, these girls are racists. They are equally disgusting!!!!
4 posted on 10/23/2005 10:06:20 AM PDT by Private_Sector_Does_It_Better (The UN did such a great job with Oil for Food in Iraq, let's let them run the whole country)
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To: Danae


I don't agree with their crap but I see no difference from what they do and what alot of black rappers do.


5 posted on 10/23/2005 10:07:05 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Danae
I saw this and, while I certainly don't support the lyrics or objectives of these performances, I was struck by the relative absence of any comparison with the hate filled messages of Punk, Gangsta Rap and many other styles of 'Entertainment' loose in the Country today. To boot, at least these two sisters don't have Rap Sheets miles long and, to my knowledge, have not had a shooting or stabbing at any of their performances.
6 posted on 10/23/2005 10:07:12 AM PDT by TCats
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To: Danae

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1506895/posts


7 posted on 10/23/2005 10:07:44 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Danae

I thought this article was going to be about Kayne West.


8 posted on 10/23/2005 10:09:39 AM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Danae
I didn't see any "hatred" in the girls' lyrics. The "If you ain't white, you'll be dead" is racist enough, but no moreso than half the (c)rap you hear. And the suggestion that music is "dangerous" never seems to get much of a hearing unless the danger posed is to the reverse racists.

If racism is wrong, it is ALWAYS wrong. And these people are no better or worse than Snoop Hog, Ice Cream, or Fitty Scent.

9 posted on 10/23/2005 10:12:19 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Danae

Saw the bit on them in 20/20 (I think, I was channel surfing). It runs in the family. Grandpa is a nut job, the wife is a nut job and now the kids are following in their footsteps.

Racists come in all colors although the MSM only sees the white ones.


10 posted on 10/23/2005 10:16:46 AM PDT by PeteB570 (Guns, what real men want for Christmas)
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To: Danae

11 posted on 10/23/2005 10:16:59 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: PeteB570

It's kind of not their fault, since they were raised this way from infancy. At some point, tough, that ceases to matter, and the people in question are still creeps. But, I'm laying odds that by the time they're 18, they'll have rejected all of this and have black boyfriends just to spite the family.


12 posted on 10/23/2005 10:19:31 AM PDT by Rastus
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"...NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught."

Or the above, sounds nice, until one takes into account the Black Racist race hustlers teach nothing but hate Whitey to the Black youth.


13 posted on 10/23/2005 10:29:09 AM PDT by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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To: Danae

If the Nazis were such a great "pure" race, how come they behaved like barbarians?


14 posted on 10/23/2005 10:46:26 AM PDT by RoadTest (Call Orkin Pest Control! We've got VERMIN!)
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To: SouthernFreebird

I think much of rap music is disgusting. Anything that considers that people are worth more or less based on their color is evil.

It says a lot about the devolving of our society and the corruption of the MSM in that they recognize the evil of these white nationalists, but not that of gangsta rap.


15 posted on 10/23/2005 10:48:19 AM PDT by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: Danae
Yes, White Nationalism is racism and these two kids are espousing it, BUT...

MSNBC can't run an article in three-page spread about DR. KAMAU KAMBON calling to "Exterminate White People"?

This guy teaches at a university. He has access daily to the minds and intellects of youth, and appeared yesterday on C-SPAN calling for all "white people" to be "exterminated."

Not a peep from the mainstream media about the creep, OR about the people who clapped when he delivered his dictum.

And, as with much that is in black rap industry, the same sort of destructive hateful rhetoric just gets hummed and repeated. Racism is racism but that by other races about "white people" seems to be more intense than that these two teens sing about their own versions of it.

16 posted on 10/23/2005 10:50:07 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Danae

And just read La Raza's website. Listen to V. Fox, Chavez, Castro, for heaven's sake.


17 posted on 10/23/2005 10:50:46 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: SouthernFreebird
I don't agree with their crap but I see no difference from what they do and what alot of black rappers do.


Te twin girls are weirder. Kind of like a demented Britney Spears.
18 posted on 10/23/2005 10:55:35 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Danae

Well its no worse than what Louis Farrakhan is all about.


19 posted on 10/23/2005 10:58:14 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: IronJack
I agree! My main point was just that it makes me sick to see parents so blatantly using their kids, brainwashing them and then using them to make $$$. Sad sick and wrong, doesn't matter what the color of their skin is. It is still wrong.
20 posted on 10/23/2005 11:06:04 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: SouthernFreebird

"I don't agree with their crap but I see no difference from what they do and what alot of black rappers do."

Except the media doesn't call the black rappers "racist." It's ok from the media point of view to be a racist bigot, as long as your skin is not white.

Double standard? Nah. /s


21 posted on 10/23/2005 11:06:14 AM PDT by Adiemus
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To: Danae

You didn't get the memo. White pride is evil. Black pride is good. Gay pride is even better.


22 posted on 10/23/2005 11:06:30 AM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Adiemus

...except rap/hip hop is softening. It's turning into something else.


23 posted on 10/23/2005 11:08:30 AM PDT by durasell
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To: SouthernFreebird
I don't agree with their crap but I see no difference from what they do and what alot of black rappers do.

That's an ignorant and completely clueless load of bull. Plus, it is giving these twisted little freaks too much of a free ride -they're RACIST. Outright racist, Hitler-loving, Anti-American scumbags.

Sure, there are no doubt a couple or three acts in Rap that are probably as hideous as these worthless sacks of stupid, but the fact that they aren't being slammed DOESN'T excuse the fecal matter these little Nazi proto-murderesses are spreading.

As soon as one idiot is identified, the fact that some other may have not been DOESN'T excuse the first. These two garbage-spewing evil punks should be castigated, not given a free ride because you "heard about this one song eleven years ago that wasn't very nice".

Call evil, evil, don't give these neo-Nazi subhumans a "pass" because some other person some time earlier wasn't criticized enough by the main media. Their failure doesn't mean that WE should give anti-American, pro-fascist dirtbags a pass ANY time we encounter them.

24 posted on 10/23/2005 11:08:43 AM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: BIRDS
You are correct I think! What is really silly is that there is less than 1% difference in DNA that causes differences in Skin color. For instance, if we were all blind, it wouldn't make a difference, only the different rules of each society would apply and that only in a local sense. It is neverendingly amazing that people can get hung up on something so small. It's all about what you have, and as long as another group perceives that your group has more, then they are going to "Hate" in order to justify the means of taking what the "haves" have for their own. Completely illogical.
25 posted on 10/23/2005 11:11:13 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Reactionary
"snap a Z" homie!

Oh hoo, I just think that is sooooo wrong...
26 posted on 10/23/2005 11:19:09 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Danae

There are only 3% of difference in genes between a human and an ape......so.....1% is quite significant.

I AM NOT A RACIST, just pointing out how figures can be twisted a bit to mean something else.

On the other hand,if you think genes play no role in the behavior of ALL animals, you should buy a Doberman to herd cattle and take a Beagle on your duck hunt.


27 posted on 10/23/2005 11:20:46 AM PDT by 308MBR (Walnut stocks with steel buttplates are pretty effective in close quarters.)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus


Bite me...

they can be racists all they want unless you want to regulate us all.

Besides your making excuses for the same beliefs when blacks hold em.

I didn't hear about one song 11 years ago, I've listened to blacks like kayne west....the instructor in NC...to name a couple in recent history.

I say if you don't like what their singing don't buy their music. I'm not firing up my torch and pitchfork over these little girls, ignorant and clueless as I may be.


28 posted on 10/23/2005 11:21:32 AM PDT by SouthernFreebird
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

O.K., and by that rule, we should all start calling Farrakhan evil (he says "white people" are "devils"), and all the rest?

The point here is that most people have long since deemed Hitler and all that to be evil (he was, what he ordered and inspired was, all except Wagner, whose music I quite admire), BUT, that there are equal to far more awful evils alive and speaking today.

There's a trend involved to denigrate "white nationalism" as if it represents all "white people" and yet what denigrates it has now become as bad, as evil, to my view. Sometimes worse. Calling for people to be exterminated based upon the skin pigmentation is as evil, the same evil, as was Hitler's. AND what has taken place in Central Europe in recent history. AND what has taken place in areas of Africa in recent history (although that was interracial, it was still an extermination of a people by another).

There is a lot of media today that is just egging on this sort of one-note-hatred about 'white people', and that includes various Christian peoples given that "all of us white people" are SUPPOSED to be "white nationalists" according to most media and to the racists of other races on this earth, as I write this. Hitler had nothing on them, to my view.


29 posted on 10/23/2005 11:23:19 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: 308MBR

Or perhaps a whippet to to do snow rescues.

I am just saying that is is wrong, regardless of whether you are black or white. Myself, I grew up in Hawaii as a white kid. I am telling you, I was the minority there. I got discriminated against in countless ways. The worst was from the teachers in my school. Either of Japanese decent, Phillipino, or Hawaiian, there were few if any white teachers. All of the above didn't see the point of teaching a stupid Haole kid. By third grade, I was below first grade in every area. I know discrimination, from the inside. It is wrong Period.


30 posted on 10/23/2005 11:25:49 AM PDT by Danae ( Anál nathrach, orth' bháis's bethad, do chél dénmha)
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

You know it's a tough crowd when you can't even bad mouth Hitler without catching flak.


31 posted on 10/23/2005 11:25:52 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Republicanus_Tyrannus

I just have to add the redundant issue here and that is that German Nationalism with Hitler as their messiah was founded in liberal socialism, and the very origins of that politic as a social movement began with homosexual activists in "gay, Golden Age Berlin."

It was a social movement born out of liberalism, rooted in the liberal excess conceived by (ha) homosexual activists. Who originally received Hitler's gratitude, although he later decided they, too, were not worthy...but they actually gave birth to the movement itself, of German Nationalism, the liberal, mostly theatrical, community of Berlin.

So, think about that today when you read Maureen Dowd, Michael Moore and the evil Cindy Sheehan, along with Johh Kerry, Farrakah, Jessie Jackson's and Clinton's phoney spiritualism, the whole lot of them, marching toward...well, it looks like Hitler's ghost.


32 posted on 10/23/2005 11:27:41 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Danae

Yeah, I can witness to those experiences, for sure. Although not a child there, certainly have known enough parents of children in Hawaii schools who, as white children, have very cruel experiences trying to just attend school, and stay in them.


33 posted on 10/23/2005 11:29:01 AM PDT by BIRDS
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To: Irving Two Smokes

I don't think history is repeating itself. Hitler et al were hybrids who knew how to accessorize. I think what we're seeing with the rise in white nationalism, black nationalism etc is the last stand of tribalism in developed countries.


35 posted on 10/23/2005 11:32:50 AM PDT by durasell
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To: Irving Two Smokes

The old Kingfish should know. He laid the populist (read fascist) direction of the Democrat party, H. Ross Perot, Pat Buchannan, well I guess I'll stop right there.


36 posted on 10/23/2005 11:36:28 AM PDT by 308MBR (Walnut stocks with steel buttplates are pretty effective in close quarters.)
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To: SouthernFreebird

The story isn't the girls..there will always be a few nuts, but just who are the audiences and how big are they, that's the truly frightening part.


37 posted on 10/23/2005 11:51:27 AM PDT by Hildy ( liberals cannot change the present, and cannot effect the future, so they MUST relive the past...)
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To: BIRDS

There are no "degrees" of hatred.


38 posted on 10/23/2005 11:54:13 AM PDT by republicaliman
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To: Danae
Liberal Racism 101: These white girls are being criticized because they should know better. Blacks can't be expected to know better, thus they are not criticized.
39 posted on 10/23/2005 11:54:57 AM PDT by manwiththehands
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To: manwiththehands

Black rappers are denounced fairly regularly, most famously by Stanley Crouch (a jazz head). But mostly the market is taking care of the hateful rap lyrics. The music industry is discovering (yet again) people listen to music to have a good time, not for a political agenda.


40 posted on 10/23/2005 11:57:06 AM PDT by durasell
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To: republicaliman
"There are no "degrees" of hatred."

That's like saying there are no degrees of love or any other human passion.

And it leaves out the rather obvious point that one should hate evil and those who do evil.

41 posted on 10/23/2005 12:00:04 PM PDT by Reactionary
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To: Danae

If you lack real talent, at least be controversial enough to make a news story. This is the first and last we will hear of these little 'darlings'.


42 posted on 10/23/2005 12:01:19 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: Private_Sector_Does_It_Better
Ice Cube is a racist, these girls are racists. They are equally disgusting!!!!

But not equally condemned. That is the real point.

I also don't hear the NAACP, who did condemn the girls, condemning this guy:

Kamau Kambon a Raleigh activist and bookstore owner and a visiting professor at North Carolina State University says the solution to the problems faced by many blacks is the extermination of "white people off the face of the planet."

Kamau Kambon, who taught Africana Studies at the Raleigh school last spring, told a panel at Howard University Law School Oct. 14 this action must be taken "because white people want to kill us," the Carolina Journal reported.

Don't they think this is detrimental to their message?

43 posted on 10/23/2005 12:02:08 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Mohamophages of the world, unite!)
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To: republicaliman

Well, yes, there are...as to behaviors implemented. As to the motive, once hate exists, yes, it's a consistent banality, in that sense. Degrees are measured in how the hate is acted out, in my view. But the state of hatred, all badly capable of all bad, yes.


44 posted on 10/23/2005 12:02:56 PM PDT by BIRDS
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To: HairOfTheDog

If you lack real talent, at least be controversial enough to make a news story. This is the first and last we will hear of these little 'darlings'.



...until MTV does the reality show.


45 posted on 10/23/2005 12:03:25 PM PDT by durasell
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To: durasell

I'm not seeing a big market for these twits. I'm not gonna give them any more of my energy.


46 posted on 10/23/2005 12:06:32 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Join the Hobbit Hole Troop Support - http://freeper.the-hobbit-hole.net/)
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To: HairOfTheDog

Cue the Patty Duke theme music:

They're fascists, adorable fascists...


47 posted on 10/23/2005 12:08:46 PM PDT by durasell
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To: SouthernFreebird
Bite me.

Ok. You're just as un-American as they are if you give these little hitlerites a free pass because of YOUR bias against another race or someone else's offensive music.

That's what you're doing - you're giving ANTI-AMERICAN Nazis your "stamp of approval" because you find some other NON-RELATED thing that gives you pause and makes you equate them with rap music acts. Margial ones.

Not talking about "regulating", I'm talking about calling what is evil, evil.

See, maybe you don't know this, being you are so HEAVILY studying "black" artists to fuel your irritability, but Nazis are evil and anti-American. We even fought a war against them
. They were a system based on slave labor and racist philosophy, propped up by extremist Socialism.

Now, you are setting up straw men to give these little anti-American scum ("these little girls", yeah, right) some cover so you can point your shakey finger at some imagined slight from some idiot you dislike who HAPPENS to be a different race than you.

Excuse me, but what the heck are you doing on Free Republic? Last I checked, racism IS NOT conservatism, and is not at ALL able to be countenanced by us. Why are you giving racist Nazi scumbags ANY defense at all?

This thread is quite a find - a bunch of you have GOT to be disruptors - 'cause conservatives ain't racist. I hope JimRob gets his banhammer swinging on some of you. We don't need racists and their apologists here.

48 posted on 10/23/2005 12:10:32 PM PDT by Republicanus_Tyrannus
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To: Danae
"It really breaks my heart to see those two girls spewing out that kind of garbage," said Ted Shaw, civil rights advocate and president of the NAACP's Legal Defense Fund — though Shaw points out that the girls aren't espousing their own opinions but ones they're being taught.

At the point the NAACP starts condemning anti-white rap music, I might have some mild interest in what the NAACP has to say about anything

49 posted on 10/23/2005 12:10:58 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: Rastus

I think this is the most disgusting picture I've seen posted on FR. Somehow I don't believe the relatives of six million Jews and millions of others exterminated by that "Smiley Face" saw him as someone to be revered by children.

How their parents can do this is beyond me. May the Lord have mercy on their demented souls.


50 posted on 10/23/2005 12:15:49 PM PDT by Waryone
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