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Will Karl Rove Be Another Indicted for a Non-Crime?
The Post Chronicle ^ | Oct. 24, 2005 | Sher Zieve

Posted on 10/25/2005 9:51:06 PM PDT by FairOpinion

Now that conservative Rep. Tom DeLay has been indicted for not committing a crime, will conservative Karl Rove be next? For those still certain that DeLay must be "guilty of something", let's take a look-shall we? After years of trying to get a grand jury-any grand jury-to indict Rep. Tom DeLay for anything at all, activist district attorney Ronnie Earle was finally able to entice one to do so. However, after the indictment was signed, sealed and delivered to the court-and apparently approved by activist Judge Bob Perkins-Earle discovered he had a problem. He'd indicted DeLay for a "crime" that wasn't a "crime" when DeLay had supposedly "committed" it. OOPS! So, Earle went back to the drawing board. He then issued a second indictment of "money laundering"; notably a charge that even the first indicting-grand-jury had refused the now feverish district attorney. However, Earle was able to get the second indictment from a grand jury that had been seated for one-day, by telling the jurors that he had an "official document" listing the names of the Texas Republicans who were beneficiaries of said "money laundering". The grand jurors said: "Okay". But, there was and is yet another problem for Earle.

The additional problem, since discovered, is that the "official document" wasn't official at all. It was prepared by Earle and/or his merry prosecuting team. Although, Earle and his team have said the "official document" has been lost (sure it has), the second 'similar' document will be enough. HUH? A partisan Democrat prosecutor can now fabricate documents to gain indictments on Republicans (spec. conservative Republicans) and that's acceptable to our "judicial system"? Folks, if this is allowed to continue, it won't stop with politicians.

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Then, we have the Karl Rove/Valerie Plame scenario. Even the ultra-liberal (actually leftist) NY Times said that Rove and Libby will more than likely be exonerated of the charge of "outing" former covert CIA agent Valerie Plame and that they did not violate the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act. But, the Times went on to say that Special Prosecutor Fitzgerald would probably indict at least Rove on his inability to correctly remember a conversation he may have had. HOLD IT! During the Clinton Whitewater hearings both Bill and Hillary Clinton said they 'couldn't remember things' over 1,300 times combined! Neither one of them were indicted for their consistent lapses of memory. But, they were both Democrats. Rove and DeLay are not. Do you see a conspicuous and defined pattern here?

The really enormous problem is that our activist "legal" system has decided to begin prosecuting conservatives for simply being conservative. The liberal-socialist-gulag-mentality has firmly entered our "justice" system. What it cannot win at the ballot box (IE elections) it has now begun to push through via an increasingly corrupted judicial system.

The defunct Russian-based USSR (Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) has now entered the USA. And its leftist members are pushing all conservatives to our final limits. If we are not to have all of our rights taken away from us, we must now take a stand and fight them on each and every front. Elected Republicans: Are you listening to us? Do you even remember the people who voted for you-those known as your base? Stand up for the conservatives who are unjustly being vilified and frivolously prosecuted! Otherwise, your country club memberships-and your positions-will be gone. If you do not heed us, we will fully and firmly take matters into our own capable hands. Believe it.


TOPICS: Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: cialeak; delay; indictment; plame; rove; valerieplame; wilson
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Exactly. The Dems , like pirranhas, attack someone, and keep it up, until they make it seem, as if laws were broken, when there weren't. They can't win at the ballot box, so this is how they pick off effective Republicans.
1 posted on 10/25/2005 9:51:08 PM PDT by FairOpinion
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Does anyone know the background of the special prosecutor? He comes across as a lib, but would they really have appointed a lib?


2 posted on 10/25/2005 9:51:50 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: FairOpinion
Related excellent article siting the facts:

Case against aides doesn't have leg to stand on. (Valerie Plame case) (MUST READ: NO CRIME)

"Consider the Intelligence Identities Protection Act. To violate it, you must disclose the name of a covert agent who has served abroad within the last five years, while knowing that that person was a covert agent. It does not appear that Plame was a covert agent who had served abroad within five years of the disclosure of her name to reporters. She was a desk officer at CIA headquarters at Langley at that time. This law was narrowly drafted and intended only to apply to people who purposefully endangered covert agents abroad. That is clearly not the case here. "

3 posted on 10/25/2005 9:52:58 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: SmoothTalker

Sounds more like a zealot.


4 posted on 10/25/2005 9:53:44 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: FairOpinion

This is precisely what is happening.


5 posted on 10/25/2005 9:54:18 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: FairOpinion

Fake but accurate criminal charges?


6 posted on 10/25/2005 9:55:30 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: ConservativeMind

"The really enormous problem is that our activist "legal" system has decided to begin prosecuting conservatives for simply being conservative. The liberal-socialist-gulag-mentality has firmly entered our "justice" system. What it cannot win at the ballot box (IE elections) it has now begun to push through via an increasingly corrupted judicial system. "

And it is really scary for the future of the country and us living in it.

Terrorists have rights, but conservatives don't.


7 posted on 10/25/2005 9:56:47 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: FairOpinion

I have nothing to say, especially about whatever it was.


8 posted on 10/25/2005 10:00:50 PM PDT by claudiustg (Go Bush! Go Sharon!)
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To: FairOpinion

There will be no indictments.

This stuff about seeing if Plame was really "covert"? - - no way is Fitgerald so incompetent that he waits until three days before the GJ expires before he decides to figure out if Plame was truly "covert". That notion is ridiculous on the face of it. Besides, the Intelligence Identities Protection Act also stipulates that that agent's covert duty took place "abroad".

ADDITIONALLY, the person charged with deliberately revealing a covert agent's identity would have to have done so in a conscious effort to damage national security.

Clearly, NOBODY involved in this mess was interested in deliberately threatening America's national security. Please.... This was all about politics.

For Fitzgerald to indict somebody for "exposing" Plame as a covert agent, he would have to be a nut case. By all accounts, Fitz is anything but a nut case. There will be no indictments, at least not of anybody in the White House (unless somebody was really, really stupid and lied brazenly and repeatedly).

It is all really as simple as it seems on the surface - - Joe Wilson joined the Kerry campaign and, using hyped-up bona fides as a "diplomat", attempted to damage Bush. Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, used her position at the CIA to help her husband by arranging the bogus "fact-finding" trip to Niger. Wilson subsequently lied that it was Cheney who had sent him. The White House responded that Cheney knew nothing of Wilson's trip and that it was actually his wife, the CIA employee, who sent him. Mix in some bad blood between the CIA and the DIA and voila!, a mess.

This is all little more than a tale of political shenanigans gone awry..

Fitzgerald would be a fool to get any more involved than he has already been forced to be. And Fitzgerald is NOT a fool. There will be no indictments.

For what it's worth, I happen to believe that Fitz is merely trying to gather whatever ADDITIONAL ammo he can put in his pocket because he realizes that there will be very loud demands for him to explain why he ended up concluding that no law had been broken and sought no indictments.

In other words, it's all over.


9 posted on 10/25/2005 10:08:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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Perhaps he'll be found guilty of "Crimes Against the State."

That was a favorite charge of Hitler's.

He could define the charge any way he wanted to.


10 posted on 10/25/2005 10:09:05 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: Lancey Howard

Well said- haven't seen this much wishful thinking in the press since BS' breathless reporting on its newly minted TANG docs.


11 posted on 10/25/2005 10:12:54 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: FairOpinion

"Terrorists have right but conservatives don't."

That's why we have to be careful with these so-called terrorist laws. They take away freedoms.

Today it's the freedoms of the Muslims, tomorrow it's the conservatives, next week they're calling the American Legion the terrorists.


12 posted on 10/25/2005 10:13:10 PM PDT by henderson field
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To: henderson field

But you can already see that the conservatives don't have their rights protected under the US Constitution, but the terrorists detainees will, if the McCain amendment isn't dropped from converence with the House.


13 posted on 10/25/2005 10:15:09 PM PDT by FairOpinion (CA Props: Vote for Reform: YES on 73-78, NO on 79 & 80, NO on Y)
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To: FairOpinion

Rove will do hard time at a Dairy Queen.


14 posted on 10/25/2005 10:16:23 PM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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To: henderson field

It would be laughable if it were not serious.

What a joke. First of all, we let the media get away with spreading the lie that a "Covert CIA Agent" name was leaked. Most people actually believe it.


15 posted on 10/25/2005 10:17:00 PM PDT by indianrightwinger
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To: calrighty

That would be enough to atone for a multitude of sins.


16 posted on 10/25/2005 11:59:36 PM PDT by carumba
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To: Lancey Howard

Thanks for your cogent summary. I also have said - and continue to say - there will be no indictments. But I haven't studied the story as well as you have. We'll know in a couple days, I guess!


17 posted on 10/26/2005 1:01:17 AM PDT by karnage (Go Sox)
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To: carumba

:-)


18 posted on 10/26/2005 1:08:40 AM PDT by calrighty (Taglines for sale or let......1 liners 50 cents! C'mon troops, finish em off!!)
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To: karnage

Thanks for your kind post.


19 posted on 10/26/2005 1:12:58 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: SmoothTalker

He's a Republican.


20 posted on 10/26/2005 4:49:24 AM PDT by somerville
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