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THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY:Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy
The O'Reilly Factor, Bill O'Reilly, Susan Estrich, Real Rape | 10.27.05 | Mia T

Posted on 10/27/2005 9:07:26 AM PDT by Mia T

THE DANGER OF RUNNING VICARIOUSLY:

Bill O'Reilly chews up and spits out the hillary clinton candidacy

by Mia T, 10.27.05

 

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the principal being more worthless even than its phantom proxy, both alike unsubstantial, and the former shapeless to boot

--Samuel Taylor Coleridge

 




or the most part, missus clinton operates in absentia, by proxy.

You rarely see her. You almost never hear her. (Think of it as the hillary! 2000 'listening tour' extended ad nauseam.)

And in those rare instances where she does actually speak, the 'event' is always prearranged, prescripted, prepeopled and preprogrammed by the clinton political machine.

If you stop and think about it, the American voter hasn't ever had the opportunity to see, hear, examine the actual merchandise...much less contemplate the return policy.

There are three principal reasons for this clinton scheme.

  1. To conceal the hillary dud factor. (See SCHEMA PINOCCHIO: how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor)

  2. To shield missus clinton from questions concerning clinton corruption, clinton abuse of women, clinton abuse of power, clinton utter failure to confront terrorism, etc.

  3. To allow missus clinton to pose as a moderate without overly enraging her radical leftist comrades (Cindy Sheehan excepted).

 

PROXY SQUARED

The clintons, as is their wont, are now taking this proxy scheme to even more outrageous extremes. The latest: an actual hillary clinton proxy presidency, populated on both sides of the camera by assorted rodham and clinton ex-staffers, sycophants and would-be felons, witness the latest hire.

'Commander-in-Chief,' a show that sets out to crown a 'queen,' instead exposes the kitschy simplemindedness of Hollywood fantasy and the special sway and shortsightedness of the pathologic ego.

 

REAL RAPE BY PROXY

And then we have the Susan Estrich proxy.

Susan Estrich is the Democrat political operative who put Dukakis in a tank and would put hillary in the White House. Amazon.com sales rank suggests another tank for Susan: Following her sales pitch on Hannity and Colmes the other night, her book, The Case for Hillary Clinton went from bad to worse, (It instantly sustained a 10% decline to #8517. As I type this, it is #12,244.)

Ms. Estrich also wrote Real Rape, a book about the clinton-clinton-Broaddrick kind of rape. But that was before she was tapped by the clinton machine to cover for... and revise the predatory history of... a couple of real rapists.

'Simple rape' is what the system calls this clinton kind of rape... Simple as opposed to aggravated. 'Simple rape,' a horrendous misnomer that only perpetuates the injustice. 'Real Rape' is what Ms. Estrich called it. But, as I said, that was before she was tapped by the clintons.

In the cases on which this book focuses, the man is not the armed stranger jumping from the bushes--nor yet the black man jumping the white woman, the case that was most likely to result in the death penalty prior to 1977, and the stereotype that may explain in part the seriousness with which a white male criminal justice system has addressed "stranger" rape. Instead the man is a neighbor, an acquaintance, or a date. The man and the woman are both white, or both black, or both Hispanic. He is a respected bachelor, a student, a businessman, or a professional. He may have been offered a ride home or invited in. He does not have a weapon. He acted alone. It is, in short, a simple rape.

Susan Estrich, Real Rape

In 'simple rape,' the system invariably revictimizes the victim and protects the rapist.

This horrible perversion of justice was the impetus for her book, so, of course, Ms Estrich knows exactly what is going on here between the clintons and Broaddrick. (To be expanded upon in future posts.)

Worse still, Ms. Estrich uses the horror of her own purported rape to obfuscate the casuistry and rapelies required to spin yet another rapist presidency. Estrich is contemptible.

This is the usual clinton rube arrogance rooted in stupidity (of which this interview tonight is but another example).

The clintons figured that Estrich in their corner would make clinton serial rape and predation just disappear, not understanding that her presence would only intensify the scrutiny and that her 'expertise' and prior utterances would be used against them... and her.

Indeed, by twisting her own scholarship, Estrich indicts the clintons just as surely as the twisting double helix on that blue Gap dress.

Estrich's reaction to Juanita Broaddrick is the typical opportunistic, dishonest feminist reaction. (See article, Salon.com.)

While most, if not all of the women who contributed to the salon.com piece believed Juanita, (liberals as well as conservatives), some feminists were in denial; they conveniently relied on false premises to assuage the cognitive dissonance.

One recurring false premise (a premise that Estrich relies on): although Juanita was credible, clinton couldn't be a rapist because he never raped before (or since).

Notwithstanding the fact that not all rapists are serial rapists, did they never hear of Eileen Wellstone et al?

Shame on them.

 

"Who is Juanita Broaddrick? I've never heard of her!" cried Betty Friedan, the founder of modern feminism. Friedan's outburst came at last Friday's conference, entitled "The Legacy and Future of Hillary Rodham Clinton." Held at the American Enterprise Institute in Washington. D.C., the event offered a chilling microcosm of an angry, divided America.

For nearly an hour, a five-woman panel had been debating whether Hillary qualified as a "feminist heroine." I thought Broaddrick's claim of having been raped by Hillary's husband had some bearing on this point, so I broached the subject during the question-and-answer period. Friedan's dyspeptic denial followed.

Was Friedan telling the truth? Maybe. And maybe all those millions of Germans who professed ignorance of the death camps were telling the truth too. The problem is, having admitted her ignorance, Friedan showed no interest in exploring the matter further. And that was the problem with the Germans too.

Totalitarian impulses flourished at the conference. Taking a page from Soviet psychiatry, some Clintonites suggested that Hillary hating might be a mental illness.

Richard Poe
The Hillary Conspiracy


HANNITY'S ESTRICH INTERVIEW: THE CLINTONS' RAPE OF BROADDRICK

While Sean Hannity correctly zeroed in on the clinton rape of Juanita Broaddrick, one of the issues that should automatically disqualify missus clinton for any position of power, he sabotaged his own line of attack.

Hannity's setup question, whether hillary 'believed' bill, was a dodge. And a not very artful one, at that. As Sean Hannity knows well, the issue isn't whether hillary 'believed' bill; the issue is whether hillary participated. In that rape as well as in all the other clinton rapes and predations.

Hannity of all people should know this. He interviewed Broaddrick on precisely that point. (A video and analysis of that interview to follow.) Broaddrick described to him in shocking detail the meeting with hillary clinton that occurred several weeks after the rape. missus clinton went to that meeting for the express purpose of warning Broaddrick to keep her mouth shut. (She and the rapist entered the room, she approached Broaddrick (whom she had never met before) while a slinking rapist stayed behind, she proceeded to warn Broaddrick, she and the rapist immediately left.)

In Hannity's original Estrich-Broaddrick interview, he was honest about the real issue. But even then he ultimately failed because he neglected to expose the following clinton casuistry being spun by Estrich:

  1. the 'statute of limitation' on rape should apply to the clintons in the Broaddrick rape,

  2. the postmodern construction of 'rape,' i.e., the definition of rape is subjective, i.e., what is considered rape by the victim isn't necessarily considered rape by the rapist,

  3. the definition of rape has morphed over time, i.e., what is rape today wasn't necessarily rape in the '70s.

 

On point 1, the statute of limitation on rape applies in a court of law, not in the voting booth. The question we are deciding isn't whether the clintons should be thrown in the slammer (another matter for another day); the question is less onerous, (from the clintons' perspective, anyway): Do the clintons have the character to be president?

The reductio ad absurdum is Christopher Shays' comment, made after he viewed the Ford building evidence on the rape of Broaddrick: "I believed that he had done it. I believed her that she had been raped 20 years ago. And it was vicious rapes, it was twice at the same event." Asked if the president is a rapist, Shays said, "I would like not to say it that way. But the bottom line is that I believe that he did rape Broaddrick."

And yet Shays voted not to impeach. Purportedly because he asked the wrong question. ("Where was the obstruction of justice?") (Any cognitive dissonance Shays may have experienced rendering that verdict was no doubt assuaged by the political plum clinton gave to Mrs. (Betsi) Shays...)

And so we had two more years of the clinton Nano-Presidency. And with it, inexorably, 9/11.

Regarding points two and three: Juanita's bitten lip, swollen to twice its normal size, the hallmark of a serial rapist, is the obvious counterexample.

This book should be required reading... for Susan Estrich.

 

ADDENDUM:

Ignoring the facts of the case, ignoring the 'real rape' paradigm, indeed, ignoring her own writings on 'real rape,' Susan Estrich, on Hannity and Colmes, pimping for yet another rapist presidency, dismissed out of hand Juanita Broaddrick's credible charge, that she was raped by the clintons.

In response, Juanita Broaddrick has offered to meet with Susan Estrich to discuss the matter. Estrich turned her down flat. (SUSAN ESTRICH RESPONDS TO JUANITA BROADDRICK'S OFFER TO SPEAK ABOUT HER RAPE -- "not interested")



SPECIAL NOTE ON THE O'REILLY'S ESTRICH INTERVIEW

Susan Estrich is not nearly as dumb as she appeared in this interview. She was tentative by design. (Hers.) I will post a separate analysis of the interview.

For now, note the following:

  1. When O'Reilly questioned her pointedly, Estrich was loath to express her support for hillary clinton openly and directly.

  2. Estrich again inadvertently reveals both missus clinton's stealth scheme and her vulnerability. (I will explain in future posts.)




1.

When the Left assesses clintoncorruption (treason, rape, or whatever), a clown-like character of the crime or the criminal is the reliable default mitigating factor, with the magnitude of the mitigation directly proportional to both the intensity of clownlike affect and the seriousness of the crime and inversely related to the distance to an election in which a clinton is running. We used to execute rapists and traitors. Today we elect them president?





2.

It isn't that they can't see the solution. It is that they can't see the problem.

G. K. Chesterton

Reviews of "Commander-in-Chief" mislead; they suggest that this new ABC offering, this electuary of suds and psychologizing, is optional for missus clinton, that Rod Lurie's latest clinton agitprop is nothing more than the icing on missus clinton's inaugural cake.

The reviews miss the point of the show, (i.e., the show is not optional but necessary (though hardly sufficient) if clinton is to prevail), because the reviews fail to identify missus clinton's problem in the first place. And circular reasoning compounds the error.


THE PROBLEM

While America appears not to be ready for a female president under any circumstances, the post-9/11 realities pose special problems for a female presidential candidate. Add to these the problems unique to missus clinton. The reviews make the mistake of focusing on the problems of the generic female presidential candidate running during ordinary times.

These are not ordinary times. America is waging the global War on Terror; the uncharted territory of asymmetric netherworlds is the battlefield; the enemy is brutal, subhuman; the threat of global conflagration is real.

Defeating the enemy on the battlefield isn't sufficient. For America to prevail, she must also defeat a retrograde, misogynous, troglodyte mindset. To successfully prosecute the War on Terror, it is essential that the collective patriarchal islamic culture perceives America as politically and militarily strong. Condi Rice excepted, this requirement presents an insurmountable hurdle for any female presidential candidate, and especially missus clinton, historically antimilitary, forever the pitiful victim, and, according to Dick Morris, "the biggest dove in the clinton administration."

It is ironic that had the clintons not failed utterly to fight terrorism... not failed to take bin Laden from Sudan... not failed repeatedly to decapitate a nascent, still stoppable al Qaeda... the generic female president as a construct would still be viable... missus clinton's obstacles would be limited largely to standard-issue clintonisms: corruption, abuse, malpractice, malfeasance, megalomania, rape and treason... and, in spite of Juanita Broaddrick, or perhaps because of her, Rod Lurie would be reduced to perversely hawking the "First Gentleman" instead of the "Commander-in-Chief."

Mia T, 10.02.05
HILLARY'S COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF PROBLEM

 


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COMPLETE ARTICLE
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sandy berger haberdashery feint
(the specs, not the pants or the socks)
by Mia T, 8.23.05


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SCHEMA PINOCCHIO
how the clintons are handling the hillary dud factor

by Mia T, 8.03.05


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MAD hillary series #5
WHY MISSUS CLINTON IS DANGEROUS
FOR THE CHILDREN
FOR AMERICA
FOR THE WORLD


They turned our bridge to the 21st century into a tunnel back into the 19th century. Back us out of that Republican tunnel, fill it in, go back across the bridge.... We'll have a giant celebration when we come back to Columbus in 2020. There's nothing more wonderful than making dreams come true.

hear hillary clinton
address to the
Democratic Leadership Council
Columbus, Ohio
7.31.05






issus clinton is a dud.

I could say she has all of bill clinton's baggage and none of his charm, except I don't find bill clinton charming. What she lacks, in my view, is lubricant. Snake oil. She grates.

It's more than simple dislike. You don't want to see her; and you definitely don't want to hear her.

Missus clinton is everyman's worst nightmare: ex-wife, fishwife, frigid wife, mother-in-law; worse, the abusive Nazi commandant in the Lina Wertmuller masterpiece. When she humiliates, which is always, she dons the military-issue undershirt, she grabs the whip.

The clintons are clearly aware of this problem and are attempting to mitigate it with veneer.

Their first ploy is to pushpoll to artificially jack up missus clinton's numbers; this is a relatively easy task, given a compliant press. This illusion of electability is intended to fool the voters, activate the herd mentality and ultimately fool the smart money of the David Geffen-Harold Ickes stripe.

It won't work. Missus clinton has 100% name recognition. Any vote she doesn't already have, she won't get. Conversely, many voters have 0% information on the clinton abuses of power and utter failures. From this it follows that many votes she has today, she won't have tomorrow.

Their second ploy is to conflate "bill" and "hillary." "The clintons" become a single construct. Missus clinton arrogates bill's "bridge to the 21st century " as "theirs." And, by lifting the lyrics straight from Pinocchio, she becomes "the man from 'hope'."

The danger here for missus clinton is that with the bridge and the hope come the abuses and the utter failures.


AFTERWORD:

Who in heaven's name is writing missus clinton's speeches? They make her sound like a cross between Pinocchio on Halcyon and a clueless tourist from Park Ridge, Illinois driving into Manhattan during rush hour. Oops.

And the plagiarizing... I mean, the clintons are shameless. And it isn't only Pinocchio.

In 2002, I wrote that the bridge to the 21st century was, arguably, clinton's most delusional conceit, that it overshot the mark by at least 1400 years.

To be fair, missus clinton's 19th-century reference is to that <yawn> retrograde 'retrograde Republicans' cliché, whereas my 7th-century reference is to the retrograde-in-fact islamofascist terrorists, whose jihadi declarations and acts of war against us the clintons willfully ignored for eight long years--allowing al Qaeda to grow exponentially in strength and reach, setting us up--very nicely, thank you--for 9/11 and its cataclysmic aftermath.





TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bewarehillary; billoreilly; clintonrape; estrich; findhillarysthesis; hillary; hillaryclinton; hillaryisafraud; juanitabroaddrick; oreilly; proxy; realrape; stophillary; susanestrich
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1 posted on 10/27/2005 9:07:30 AM PDT by Mia T
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To: Mia T

Maybe the accidently injected the Botox into her brain?


2 posted on 10/27/2005 9:10:40 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (Get the incumbents out of politics!)
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ping for future referance


3 posted on 10/27/2005 9:12:38 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45
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To: Mia T

Despite many FReepers who are quick to deride Bill O'Reilly, he is on the side of most (not all) Conservative issues.


4 posted on 10/27/2005 9:15:34 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: Mia T

Nice post!


5 posted on 10/27/2005 9:15:54 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: jla; WorkingClassFilth; Gail Wynand; Brian Allen; Wolverine; Lonesome in Massachussets; IVote2; ...

ping


7 posted on 10/27/2005 9:20:30 AM PDT by Mia T (Stop Clintons' Undermining Machinations (The acronym is the message.))
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To: Mia T

Hillary Clinton will never be President. She and her Kankles are through.


8 posted on 10/27/2005 9:21:16 AM PDT by GianniV
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To: Mia T

Hillary will not run for President. Ever. Period.


9 posted on 10/27/2005 9:24:13 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Mia T

Hillary and her stealth issues are on the move.


10 posted on 10/27/2005 9:24:48 AM PDT by bmwcyle (We broke Pink's Code and found a terrorist message)
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To: DTogo

I disagree. Look at the way he treated the Swift Boat Veterans. He takes potshots at both sides (yes, more towards the Left) to maintain an "independent" image. He is really out for himself. O'Reilly is for O'Reilly. When he says "welcome to the no-spin zone" what he really means is "welcome to my spin zone." I don't begrudge him a spin zone, because everyone has one; no one can be totally objective. But don't pretend there's none there.


11 posted on 10/27/2005 9:27:31 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I disagree, but tell me why you feel that way. Do you feel that Democrats will deem her unelectable? Who will they run in her stead?

I believe that Hillary is the only one who can truly unite the Democrats (if for no other reason than because she brings back Clinton nostolgia) and Condi Rice is the only one who can unite the conservatives. Personally, Condi's views on abortion severely hurt her chances for my vote.


12 posted on 10/27/2005 9:30:34 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Mia T

ping for later read


13 posted on 10/27/2005 9:36:53 AM PDT by ConservativeBamaFan
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To: DaveLoneRanger
I don't agree with O'Reilly all the time, and I too think his criticisms of the Swiftees was misguided, but IMHO more his lack of understanding on military issues and the Swiftees not putting their into language the common (non-military) man can understand: namely that Swift boats are like tanks or squads, and that each can often see what's going on on the other boat. So when Kerry made a lot of his heroic claims, yeah, not all the Swiftees were on Kerry's boat, but they were nearby and could see what was going on and all meet up later to exchange accounts of what happened. So their claims to be witnesses to what really happened are valid. I think they needed to explain that more to people, maybe with graphics to show how close Swift boats could be to each other.

But on the whole, IMHO, Bill generally champions Conservative (he likes to call them "traditionalist") issues, and I'm not going to hold his lack of military experience/knowledge against him forever and dismiss everything he says from now on.

On another note, Bill is often critical of what's going on in Iraq, and has many military "experts" on his show to back his point up. But I have yet to see a single soldier back from Iraq to tell Bill that what the MSM parrots in the US is not reflective of what's happening on the ground. That's one thing I will credit Chris Matthews for, his one show several months back when he had 4 Army officers on for the whole hour to dicuss their experiences in Iraq and thoughts on the war. Matthews was unable to spin anything and could nothing more than (begrudgingly) agree and thank them for their service. Bill should wise up and do the same on his show someday - he'd change his tune.

Again, I don't always agree with him, but for the most part he's on "our" side. IMHO.

14 posted on 10/27/2005 9:42:35 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: DaveLoneRanger

Hillary will not run for President because she cannot win in a cakewalk. Look what happened to her when she ran for Senate. She wilted under the glare of the media spotlight.

As you pointed out, her events are staged. She will not be able to withstand the scrutiny of running for President.


15 posted on 10/27/2005 9:42:57 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (North Texas Solutions http://ntxsolutions.com)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

If she has a brain one in her fat little head she won't run.
IMHO,it would be political suicide for her to run;
you don't crap on as many people as her and her wife Bill have done,and not make an enemy or two.I am convinced there are legions of disillusioned,used-up,ruined and bitter former colleagues (those that escaped Arkancide,that is)that are lying in wait for that hat to go into the ring.You think Kerry met his Waterloo when HE ran? Wait till Hill makes her announcement!The skeletons will be flying out of the closet faster than Bill can duck a flying ashtray.And I am betting there are LOTS more grubs under the rocks that have not seen the light of day.


16 posted on 10/27/2005 9:44:06 AM PDT by gimme1ibertee (Searching for the ultimate tagline....Please Wait.......)
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To: DTogo

For this purpose, I think it helps in a discussion to tell a liberal that you don't like Bill O'Reilly. Then you can move into the truly conservative realm. I don't QUITE think we can grant Bill a pass based on his lack of military prowess. I'm no military man, but I read the book and it was perfectly understandable to me.


17 posted on 10/27/2005 9:45:54 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe

But she -- a New York foreign -- got on the Senate, didn't she?

And what "media spotlight" are you talking about? The media are her darlings, and vice-versa.


18 posted on 10/27/2005 9:46:30 AM PDT by DaveLoneRanger (As long as liberalism and I exist, neither one of us is safe.)
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To: Mia T

Bravo! A great compilation!


19 posted on 10/27/2005 9:47:08 AM PDT by Arizona
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To: Mia T

I always enjoy your posts, you should be published.

If I ever make you mad, please tell me in advance... I wouldn't want you after me!

;->

~Corey


20 posted on 10/27/2005 9:52:48 AM PDT by corlorde (New Hampshire)
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