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Mass resignations in Holmdel High School football program ( Over Disruptive Student/Player)
Newsday ^ | 10-27-2005

Posted on 10/28/2005 6:03:03 AM PDT by Cagey

Edited on 10/28/2005 6:22:38 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

HOLMDEL, N.J. -- The head coach of the Holmdel High School football team, Joe O'Connor, has resigned along with all nine assistant coaches over what O'Connor says was an undermining of his authority by the school administration.

O'Connor quit Monday, saying the administration had reinstated a player after the coach made him leave the team over discipline problems. On Wednesday, nine assistant coaches decided to resign from the team as well in a show of solidarity with O'Connor.


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: coach; coaches; education; football; holmdel; pspl; publicschool; resignation
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To: CROSSHIGHWAYMAN

You forgot the NBA


121 posted on 10/28/2005 9:50:47 AM PDT by kas2591 (Life's harder when you're stupid.)
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To: Cagey
The players need to follow their coachs' lead. See if the reinstated player can win games playing by himself.
122 posted on 10/28/2005 10:29:43 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
However, you can bet your bottom doallar that little precious will have learned, by then, how to get his own attorney involved.

It just makes me sick how some parents act these days. There is no personal responsibility - "Junior would never do anything wrong!! He's an angel at home." (Of course, Junior walks all over mom and dad, swears at them, smokes in the house, and is "top dog" at home.) That's what happens when a child is consistently told he or she is right no matter what, that he or she is the most wonderful being ever produced in the history of time, and that THEY are above everything. A child like that, (and parents) have no fear of God, and that is sad.

123 posted on 10/28/2005 11:07:58 AM PDT by arizonarachel (finally married...to F7OShawn...)
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To: Cagey

Administrators frequently undermine classroom discipline in this manner as well - but the public tends to blame teachers for the discipline problems in schools.


124 posted on 10/28/2005 11:37:11 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Cagey

Probably did.


125 posted on 10/28/2005 2:07:45 PM PDT by moog
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To: Cagey

Aw, the kids have to
just blow up the place because
Miss Togar is nuts!
126 posted on 10/28/2005 2:13:44 PM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: Kenton

Cheryl has been watching too many Goldie Hawn movies


127 posted on 10/28/2005 2:23:00 PM PDT by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: CharlesWayneCT
The player may deserve to be kicked off, but I think a player deserves to have a "day in court" before punishment.

Football is not run as a democracy, nor as a comittee.

128 posted on 10/28/2005 2:34:08 PM PDT by Centurion2000 ((Aubrey, Tx) --- America, we get the best government corporations can buy.)
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To: YankeeGirl

Some coaches have rules. Rules are stated during the first practice. The problem is most of todays kids don't think anyone will follow up on them. Glad to see that there are some coaches who still believe EVERYONE on their teams has to come to practice, put in an effort and obey other rules or they can sit out games or get kicked off.

I kinda doubt this was the first infraction by the young man who was kicked off. I've never heard of a coach who actually kicks a kid off the team without giving warnings. It really sounds like they were saying the coach should have documented every infaction...then of course they would have said that he couldn't concider certain things infactions, then he would lose total control of disaplining his team.

Without discipline teams do begin to fall apart....look at what the Vikes have become in a few short years. hehe (a bunch of overpaid brats who think they're really important so do whatever they want whereever they want)


129 posted on 10/28/2005 3:05:34 PM PDT by tickles
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To: Centurion2000
And Holmdel wasn't run as anything. They lost last night, 35-0.

I knew that lineup of parents wasn't a good idea.

130 posted on 10/29/2005 7:33:14 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (By defiintion, we cannot have Consensus until you agree with me.)
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To: BluH2o
I our district we field a Varsity, Jr Varsity and a 9th grade team. How many guys would you need for three teams?
131 posted on 10/29/2005 7:39:47 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: BluH2o

I went to a "meet the team's," night about ten years ago, at our local High school. My daughter was on the dance team.

Preseason introduction to the coaches and players representing all the sports teams, drill teams, dance teams, band. Anything competitive. The football program alone had 104 coaches and 500 players involved.

The school itself had well over 4500 students attending at that time. There were well over 10,000 parents in the bleachers for a non game event.

Since the football program has been very successful, Six state championships since 1989, nobody messes with the coaches decisions.


132 posted on 10/29/2005 8:04:27 PM PDT by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best candidate available, have not helped us, conservatively speaking.)
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To: rock58seg

Further to the above. In good conscience, the coaches perform other functions also, phys ed, actual teaching, asst. principals, things of that nature.

Further to nobody messes with the coaches decisions, only as long as he wins. Mostly they do.


133 posted on 10/29/2005 8:32:11 PM PDT by rock58seg (My votes for Pres. Bush, the best candidate available, have not helped us, conservatively speaking.)
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To: Amelia
Administrators frequently undermine classroom discipline in this manner as well - but the public tends to blame teachers for the discipline problems in schools.

This is true - I've been learning this the hard way. I teach in a private Christian school where our principal is allowing a student with behavioral problems to run the school. Every time I send this student to the office, I end up having to explain MY position on what happened in my class. I definitely won't be returning to teach next year and the next time I have to defend why I'm sending him to the office, I'll go home and not return the next day! Good luck to the school to find someone to teach AP Calculus and Advanced Math with lousy books, no academic help with how to deal with many students that can't even do elementary algebra, and low pay and benefits. I'm headed back to the engineering world, where I hope there is some common sense left. What I thought was a calling was my mistake!
134 posted on 10/29/2005 10:51:31 PM PDT by Serenissima Venezia (Jim Gilchrist for Congress!!)
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To: Cagey

If I were the coach, I would let him stay on the team if the school board insisted. However I would not let him on the field. He would ride the bench every game. I wouldn't even let him in on practice. He would be required to be there but would never touch the ball. The college scouts don't care how well he sits the bench.


135 posted on 10/30/2005 1:59:31 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: rock58seg
The football program alone had 104 coaches and 500 players involved.

That's patently absurd ... a high school football program with 104 coaches ... pity the taxpayer in that school district they must be idiots.

136 posted on 10/30/2005 4:03:37 AM PST by BluH2o
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To: Cagey

I just saw the basketball movie... name escapes me.... with Samuel L Jackson.

Similiar story. Good movie, except for the part where the "heroic" girl aborts her baby.

Anyway, if I was the coach I would make the kid do so many exercises that he was too stiff and sore to play on game day.


137 posted on 10/30/2005 4:21:15 AM PST by linkinpunk
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To: Cagey

You know, I bet this kid wasn't well-liked by the other team members. I wish the team would suit up and walk off the field and leave "him" during the pre-game coin toss.


138 posted on 10/30/2005 4:49:57 AM PST by chalkfarmer
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To: Pure Country
There is nothing worse than working for a district that is run by the parents.

Exactly. The public school system is set up for, by, and of the statists and their pets, peons, and subjects.

139 posted on 10/30/2005 5:26:20 AM PST by TomSmedley (Calvinist, optimist, home schooling dad, exuberant husband, technical writer)
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To: takbodan

See if you can get more info from her.

This story is useless in providing enough data to tell what happened.

Because, clearly, what was written isn't what really (happened.)


140 posted on 10/30/2005 5:29:13 AM PST by Robert A Cook PE (-I contribute to FR monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS supports Hillary's Secular Sexual Socialism every day.)
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