Posted on 10/28/2005 12:32:30 PM PDT by SmithL
Arnold Schwarzenegger's war on Democratic legislators and their labor union allies may have begun with his famous - or infamous - remark in July 2004, that the lawmakers were "girlie men" for refusing to stand up to the unions, an epithet he borrowed, oddly enough, from a "Saturday Night Live" character who was a satiric version of the governor in his bodybuilder days.
Active hostilities, however, commenced three months later, on Oct. 27, 2004, when Schwarzenegger, appearing before a women's conference, mocked union nurses who were fighting with him over work rules. "I'm always kicking their butts," a chuckling Schwarzenegger said. "That's why they don't like me."
Within days, Schwarzenegger and his aides were drafting ballot measures that became his "year of reform" crusade, confident that his soaring approval ratings, then nearly 70 percent, would become a juggernaut that would seal his dominance of the Capitol.
As it happened, the one-year anniversary of Schwarzenegger's "kicking their butts" remark Thursday coincided with the release of a new poll indicating that Schwarzenegger and his anti-union ballot measures are faring poorly just days before the Nov. 8 special election he called to pass them.
And the poll shifted both sides into full spin cycle.
The poll, conducted for the Public Policy Institute of California (PPIC), found that Schwarzenegger wins approval from just a third of all adult Californians. And of the four measures he is pushing, PPIC said three are running behind among likely voters and the fourth, requiring public worker unions to get members' permission to use dues for politics, is tied.
"Whose butt is getting kicked now?" anti-Schwarzenegger media maven Steve Maviglio crowed in an e-mail to reporters, adding, "Clearly, Californians are ready to shoot the messenger."
(Excerpt) Read more at sacbee.com ...
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It's nice that you and Democrat Angelides agree 100%, both of you hoping for Arnold to fail and CA to go down the tubes. Have you gotten a thank you note from Angelides yet for your unrelenting attacks on Arnold?
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
Yes, I'm sure that in your twisted mental state, that's exactly the way you see things. I do hope you'll stop your medication respite soon and come to your senses. I'm not holding my breath, however!!!
Tom McClintock: This is Sen. Tom McClintock for Prop. 76. 76 is the Live Within Your Means Act - to control state spending, balance the budget without new taxes and stop borrowing from our kids. California now spends more than $12,000 per family - more than any other time in our history. And what do we have to show for it? Not better roads or better schools that's for sure. But the big government unions have a lot to show for it...the prison guards union just got a 37 percent pay hike...public pension costs have ballooned 1,600 percent in just five years. Folks, our budget's completely out of control. The government unions that want to force us to pay higher taxes are fighting 76 with everything they've got...If they win, we all lose. They want to raise taxes. The governor wants to control spending. And it's all up to you. This is Tom McClintock asking you please to vote yes on Prop. 76.
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
Don't you just love the incrementalists? Like the GOP Big Tent RINOs, liberals and moderates, they stand for nothing but will compromise on damned near anything.
We're better off without them.
Purity? Who is talking purity?
What we're seeing in California is complete abandonment of ALL principles by the CA GOP, not compromise or incremental steps in the (R)ight direction.
I heard Tom stumping for these Props 3 or 4 months ago. You should really get out in the sunlight more and let Parsky run his little anti conservative operation by himself ...
Well that's another one of 'em replying just above the reply you posted to me!!! Sheeeesh!!!
Yes, I know.
I think it's criminal that they've coerced and corrupted him into such a deceptive statement!!! It's a SHAME!!! You should be ashamed to repeat it, since it's patently UNTRUE!!!
Oh! And another thing... You're asinine implication that some of us on here swallow anything McClintock puts out whole, is pretty rediculous too! I certainly never appreciated his efforts to help the Indian Gamers, either.
IMO he shoulda never taken ANY of that Indian gaming campaign money during the Recall and shoulda told the Indians to "shove it!" I thought that was dead wrong and said so at the time.
The one with the undying devotion to a shallow celebrity/politician to a fault... Is YOU!!!
Angelides: "Angelides joked that he is the "Anti-Arnold," and that while Angelides isn't an international film star, he would become governor in 2006 and star in his own movie, Revenge of the Nerds."
Both you and Angelides want to sink Arnold and defeat his reform propositions. These are FACTS.
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
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Absolutely right.
Reagan had a problem as well with these non-compromisers, who rather had nothing, than some progress in the right direction.
Ronald Reagan on the importance of political compromise(in his own words)
"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.
"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.
"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'
"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.
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But it seems you ARE swallowing everything the DEMOCRATS put out, obviously. Your position is EXACTLY THE SAME AS THAT OF THE DEMOCRATS. You are agitating that people vote EXACTLY the same way as the Democrats. So what does that make you?
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
Seriously, you aren't pursuading a sole with what you're doing right now... Not one person that is reading this thread, or the others that you spam with that lame list of linkages, is the least bit interested in anything you are saying on this subject any longer... It's so sad!!!
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
Hey! I'm no longer burdened by slavish devotion to ANY political party, or candidate like you are! I'm a US/CA citizen first, last and foremost! Your partisan sniping and bickering is so childish and annoying that your beginning to be the butt of jokes, girlfriend!!! Get a grip!!!
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Uhum, and you just coindicentally promote the Dem positions. Sure. Anyone would like to buy the Golden Gate bridge from me? I'll sell it cheap. ;)
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THE CA PROPOSITIONS; Democratic and Republican activists discuss the propositions
Dean urges voters to reject measures governor supports [California]
Davis opposes Schwarzenegger's reform initiatives
CA: Feinstein to oppose Schwarzenegger's special election initiatives
John Alden (Marin cnty Dem Party chairman): Vote no on Prop 76 - we need better leaders
Top Democratic leaders at Penmar Park rally to 'swat' governor's special election measures. Key note speaker: Angelides, Dem candidate for governor
McClintock's recommendations for CA Propositions
Summary of Recommendations on the CA Propositions by various organizations and parties
CA: McClintock stumps for governor's ballot initiatives
Ad watch: McClintock in radio spot supporting Prop. 76 (includes actual text)
Supporters of the CA Propositions 74-77 include CA Club for Growth, Howard Jarvis Taxpayer Association, Ray Haynes, San Fernando Valley Town Hall Conservatives, Republican Party, and many others. Click on the link for a more comprehensive list.
And you can see from links above who are the ones opposing them: Democrats, Unions, Howard Dean, various Dem party chairmen, etc.
I don't even know how to make things RED,
I always wanted to know how you can color text, but I don't know.
Did you see the Angelides ad, where he is trying to tie all the problems of the Bush administration around Arnold's neck.
Arnold knows he needs some Dems and independents to vote for the propositions and it's a tight race, so is focusing on the priorities, of getting the propositions passed, which will have a lasting effect.
The timing of President Bush's visit was unfortunate.
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