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To: Diddle E. Squat

the last paragraph makes no sense to me. I believe the transcript of the press conference today shows that Fitzgerald was asked is she was covert - he said "classified". someone double check me.


2 posted on 10/28/2005 10:34:37 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

from the transcript thread:

"
QUESTION: Can you say whether or not you know whether Mr. Libby knew that Valerie Wilson's identity was covert and whether or not that was pivotal at all in your inability or your decision not to charge under the Intelligence Identity Protection Act?

FITZGERALD: Let me say two things. Number one, I am not speaking to whether or not Valerie Wilson was covert. And anything I say is not intended to say anything beyond this: that she was a CIA officer from January 1st, 2002, forward.

I will confirm that her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003. And all I'll say is that, look, we have not made any allegation that Mr. Libby knowingly, intentionally outed a covert agent.

FITZGERALD: We have not charged that. And so I'm not making that assertion.
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4 posted on 10/28/2005 10:41:27 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: oceanview

You are correct.

But .. I bet the neighbors didn't want to admit they knew she worked for the CIA. I mean .. who wants to be called before a GJ .. and if they're her friends, they would cover for her I'm sure.


7 posted on 10/28/2005 10:43:45 PM PDT by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: oceanview

References to her being 'classified' in transcript......

- Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer. In July 2003, the fact that Valerie Wilson was a CIA officer was classified. Not only was it classified, but it was not widely known outside the intelligence community.

- I will confirm that her association with the CIA was classified at that time through July 2003. And all I'll say is that, look, we have not made any allegation that Mr. Libby knowingly, intentionally outed a covert agent.


- QUESTION: The indictment describes Lewis Libby giving classified information concerning the identify of a CIA agent to some individuals who were not eligible to receive that information. Can you explain why that does not, in and of itself, constitute a crime?

FITZGERALD: That's a good question. And I think, knowing that he gave the information to someone who was outside the government, not entitled to receive it, and knowing that the information was classified, is not enough.

FITZGERALD: You need to know at the time that he transmitted the information, he appreciated that it was classified information, that he knew it or acted, in certain statutes, with recklessness.



- And all I'll say is that if national defense information which is involved because her affiliation with the CIA, whether or not she was covert, was classified

http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_102805/content/patrick_fitzgerald_press_conference_transcript.guest.html


9 posted on 10/28/2005 10:47:45 PM PDT by blogblogginaway (..)
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To: oceanview

"Classified" is NOT "covert.


10 posted on 10/28/2005 10:49:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: oceanview
he said "classified". someone double check me.

Correct Fitzgerald avoided the term "covert" like the plague.

17 posted on 10/28/2005 10:54:44 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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To: oceanview
the last paragraph makes no sense to me. I believe the transcript of the press conference today shows that Fitzgerald was asked is she was covert - he said "classified". someone double check me.

Her employment was classified information (though what aspect was unclear). Her status was/is something else.

24 posted on 10/28/2005 11:09:06 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: oceanview

Former CIA Official Larry Johnson Delivers Democratic Radio Address


Washington, DC - This week, Larry Johnson, who worked previously with the Central Intelligence Agency and U.S. State Department's Office of Counter Terrorism, delivered the Democratic Radio Address.


"Good morning. Im Larry Johnson, an American, a registered Republican, a former intelligence official at the CIA, and a friend of Valerie Plame.

I entered on duty at the CIA in September 1985 with Valerie. We were members of the Career Trainee Program. Senator Orin Hatch wrote the letter of recommendation for me which I believe that helped open the doors to me at the CIA.

From the first day we walked into the building, all members of my training class were undercover, including Valerie. In other words, we had to lie to our family and friends about where we worked. We could only tell those who had an absolute need to know where we worked. In my case, I told my wife.

I knew the wife of Ambassador Wilson, Valerie, as Valerie P. Even though all of us in the training class held Top Secret Clearances, we were asked to limit our knowledge of our other classmates to the first initial of their last name.

So, Larry J. knew Val P. rather than Valerie Plame. I really didnt realize what her last name was until her cover was betrayed by the Government officials who gave columnist Robert Novak her true name.

I am stunned that government officials at the highest level have such ignorance about a matter so basic to the national security structure of this nation.

Robert Novaks compromise of Valerie led to scrutiny of CIA officers that worked with her. This not only compromised her cover company but potentially every individual overseas who had been in contact with that company or with her.

We must put to bed the lie that she was not undercover. For starters, if she had not been undercover then the CIA would not have referred the matter to the Justice Department.

Val only told those with a need to know about her status in order to safeguard her cover, not compromise it. She was content with being known as an energy consultant married to Ambassador Joe Wilson and the mother of twins.

I voted for George Bush in November of 2000 because I was promised a President who would bring a new tone and a new ethical standard to Washington.

So where are we? The President has flip-flopped on his promise to fire anyone at the White House implicated in a leak. We now know from press reports that at least Karl Rove and Scooter Libby are implicated in these leaks and may have lied during the investigation.

Instead of a President concerned first and foremost with protecting this country and the intelligence officers who serve it, we are confronted with a President who is willing to sit by while political operatives savage the reputations of good Americans like Valerie and Joe Wilson.

This is wrong and this is shameful.

We deserve people who work in the White House who are committed to protecting classified information, telling the truth to the American people, and living by example the idea that a country at war with Islamic extremists cannot focus its efforts on attacking other American citizens who simply tried to tell the truth.

I am Larry Johnson.

Thank you for listening.


70 posted on 10/29/2005 12:12:31 AM PDT by kcvl
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To: oceanview
In the indictment, it says "At all relevant times from Januray 1, 2002 through July 2003, Valerie Wilson was employed by the CIA and her employment status was classified."

Employment status (pick as many as are appropriate):

Whatever her status is, HR can't tell us.

If she was covert under the definition of 50 USC 421, Fizt would have charged a violation. All the elements of disclosure by Libby are alleged in the indictment.

121 posted on 10/29/2005 3:51:55 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: oceanview
"covert" or "classified"?

You are absolutely correct. A reporter asked and he said "classified".

If I'm not mistaken, ALL CIA employees are "classified".

That is a far cry from "covert".

173 posted on 10/29/2005 5:58:53 AM PDT by moondoggie
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To: oceanview

Can someone explain why " b. At the time of this conversation, Libby was well aware that Wilson’s wife worked at the CIA..." is relevant. He's just recalling what he told Russert.


185 posted on 10/29/2005 6:39:58 AM PDT by ironman
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To: oceanview
I believe the transcript of the press conference today shows that Fitzgerald was asked is she was covert - he said "classified".

That part made a soundbite on Fox News Sunday. Fitzy said she was "classified". The Democrats were left with the "depends on the meaning of 'is' is" argument.

298 posted on 10/30/2005 1:04:42 PM PST by BigSkyFreeper ("Tucker Carlson could reveal himself as a castrated, lesbian, rodeo clown ...wouldn't surprise me")
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