Scowcroft's 'realism' (The awaited Krauthammer smackdown)

Townhall ^ | Oct 28, 2005 | Charles Krauthammer

[AliVeritas]

WASHINGTON -- Now that Cindy Sheehan turns out to be a disaster for the anti-war movement -- most Americans are not about to follow a left-wing radical who insists that we are in Iraq for reasons of theft, oppression and empire -- a new spokesman is needed. If I were in the opposition camp, I would want a deeply patriotic, highly intelligent, distinguished establishment figure. I would want Brent Scowcroft.

Scowcroft has been obliging. This week in The New Yorker he came out strongly against the war and the neocon sorcerers who magically foisted it upon what must have been a hypnotized president and vice president.

Of course, Scowcroft's opposition to toppling Saddam is neither surprising nor new. Indeed, we are now seeing its third iteration. He had two cracks at Saddam in 1991 and urged his President Bush to pass them both up -- first, after Saddam's defeat in the Gulf War when the road to Baghdad was open, and then, days later, during a massive U.S.-encouraged uprising of Kurds and Shiites when America stood by and allowed Saddam to massacre his opponents by the tens of thousands. (One of the reasons for Iraqi wariness during the U.S. liberation 12 years later was the memory of our past betrayal and suspicions about our current intentions in light of that betrayal.)

[bnelson44]

Scowcroft has been obliging. This week in The New Yorker he came out strongly against the war and the neocon sorcerers who magically foisted it upon what must have been a hypnotized president and vice president.

What? Again? How many times is he going to come out against the war? Can't you only do that once?

[JohnLongIsland]

scowcroft is the david souter of foreign policy.

[Fenris6]

Leftists will never understand reality-based foreign policy. We are in a GWOT - we either drain the swamp in the ME or create a police state here at home.

[Danae]

Go Chuckie! Go Chuckie! Go Chuckie!

[cynicom]

Scowcroft is a little man and little men in high places are dangerous. Seems some time ago that he is heavily involved in the Middle East oil cartel. A bought and paid for lackey.

[misterrob]

then, days later, during a massive U.S.-encouraged uprising of Kurds and Shiites when America stood by and allowed Saddam to massacre his opponents by the tens of thousands. (One of the reasons for Iraqi wariness during the U.S. liberation 12 years later was the memory of our past betrayal and suspicions about our current intentions in light of that betrayal...)

Not one of our finer moments.

[EagleUSA]

Leftists will never understand reality-based foreign policy.
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They don't WANT to understand it. It does not fit into their utopian, Marxist fairyland they want to force upon the country.

[Mr. Mojo]

It is not surprising that Scowcroft, who helped give indecency [in the form of Saddam's Ba'athist Iraq] a 12-year life extension, should disdain decency's return. But we should not.

Spot on, Charles.

Scowcroft may hide behind "realism," but odds are he's simply a typical Israel-despising, dictator-loving Arabist.

[Beckwith]

I watched Cindy Sheehan on C-SPAN this AM.

My God! What an absolute weirdo and you have to hear her speak, what a voice. When you mix that with the stuff coming out of her mouth ~ truly unbelievable.

There were about 10 reporters in the room. All of them began their questions with words of support.

One guy finally got up and asked her about about all the organizations and people who truly support the troops and reject Sheehan as a fruit loop.

Sheehan's response was a five-minute ramble with no train of thought, simply slogans.

[pissant]

Sounds like a Barbra Steisand leftist to me.

[Mr. Mojo]

......but odds are he's simply a typical Israel-despising, dictator-loving Arabist

....who's swimming in Arab oil dollars.

[bigeasy_70118]

Scowcroft was Condi Rice's mentor during Bush I. I am glad to see that at least in an ideological sense she has abandoned that relationship.

[cynicom]

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" but odds are he's simply a typical Israel-despising, dictator-loving Arabist."

Glad you said that.

[Pukin Dog]

And a nice smackdown it was.

[rmgatto]

It's nice to see Charles jumping from the ropes onto Scowcroft now that Meirs is gone from the ring.

[Do not dub me shapka broham]

Apparently not.

[bnelson44]

Yes, it is nice to have that distraction gone.

[Eagles Talon IV]

"...you have to hear her speak, what a voice"

I have heard her voice and she is pure stoned "valley girl" of the 1960's totally brainless and minus the looks.

Know what I mean? Like, far out

[Oldhunk]

That was about as good a smackdown as I have ever seen. Wow.

[Itzlzha]

Scowcroft was Condi Rice's mentor during Bush I. I am glad to see that at least in an ideological sense she has abandoned that relationship.

Really? Check out ...I'll post the relevant bit...

"We in America know the benevolence that is at the heart of Islam. We've seen it in many ways."

Remarks at the Annual State Department Iftaar Dinner

Secretary Condoleezza Rice

Benjamin Franklin Room

Washington, DC

October 25, 2005

Gee, seems to me that Condi is nothing but another pro-Islamazi/anti-Israel lickspittle like her mentor!

No more Bushies in 08...of ANY generation or stripe! PERIOD!

[rmgatto]

Have you heard Laura Ingraham's impersonation of sheehan? It's better than the original, who sounds like a 16 yo valley girl only more vacuous.

[Danae]

Like TOTALY gag me with spoon!

Proof that there ARE lasting effects of "wacky weed", Cindy Sheehan!

[Gandalf_The_Gray]

who sounds like a 16 yo valley girl only more vacuous

I suspect a bit of exaggeration here, once you hit zero, you cannot improve on a "perfect" vacuum.

Regards,
GtG

[SubMareener]

Listen to the replay of her Press Club speech! Cindy did a marvelous self parody!

[Donald Rumsfeld Fan]

Realists prize stability above all, and there is nothing more stable than a ruthlessly efficient dictatorship.

.....ruthlessly efficient dictator

[samantha]

I assume you know nothing about what a Secretary of State's job is, if you did you would not have insulted her like you did. Israel is our friend, but they are never 100 percent right, and her object is to allow for a solution for the deaths and destruction to stop. If the Israeli Business people can eventually feel comfortable hiring these Arabs again without fear of suicide Bombers, the whole area will profit. Both sides do not want to continue the fighting, and having the Arab men employed and making a living to support their family will change their attitude. Israel will always lead the way to prosperity, but it will never go forward without the Peace. When people work and support their family they do not listen to the Arab thugs preaching their hate and Jihad.

[Eagles Talon IV]

Vacuous.

No better description available for the bimbo.

[Reagan Man]

Brent Scowcroft is no Donald Rumsfeld.

[HelloooClareece]

Diplomacy from a diplomat (gasp!) What has this world come to???

[zerosix]

I justlove reading or better yet hearing Charles kick butt! Scocroft would have toasted the British during the Revolutionary War, then claimed that the Colonists really were an unsavory lot, who didn't know what freedom was and could never appreciate it.

It's high-time to toast bye bye to Scocroft and his ilk.

[Oatka]

But those difficulties came about not because, as Scowcroft tells us, ``some people don't really want to be free'' . . .

What an arrogant little SOB! How in L would this self-appointed elitist know what "some people" want, except in his own dream world?

[kesg]

Charles Krauthammer is my hero. First Miers, and now this.

[Itzlzha]

Diplomacy from a diplomat (gasp!) What has this world come to???

I chose to reply to you both in one post...

"Defense of every Bush placation to the Islamazis from the "Cult of Bush" crowd on FR (gasp!) Who would have thought it possible!"

Do some searches here on FR, and see just what this Admin and Rice have done/said to the Islamazis versus Israel, and tell me that they have not had their lips sugically attached to the Islamazis a$$es!

Please...they are as bad as Buchanan and Novak in their hatred of Israel, and their love of the Arabs!

That fawning quote that Condi said in my earlier post from her fete on October 25, 2005...is that diplomacy, or more of the "Religion of Peace" crap that drips from the sycophants in this administration towards the Koranimals that are THE #1 source of strife in the world?!

I guess beheading 3 Christian schoolgirls in Indonesia and leaving their heads on the Church steps was just more of their "Religion of Peace" expressing itself?

But Israel responding to Islamazi attacks is condemned, and their security wall is a block to the Bush "Roadmap to Peace...HELL"!

Just more Kool-Aid from the IWWT/WWWD crowd....who are as phony in their Conservatism as they are sincere in their worship of the "Cult of Bush".

See, I remember Reagan, and his farewell address...do you Bushies?

[Capt. Tom]

Brent Scowcroft aka Brett Snowcroft.

[libstripper]

If we'd fully supported the Shiite/Kurd rebellion in 1991 Saddam would have been overthrown and unceremoniously killed by indigenous forces and we would not have had to liberate Iraq in 2003. Thus, at a minimal cost in lives and money we'd have achieved what is now costing us billions of dollars and has cost us over 5,000 lives (2,000 service personnel in Iraq and 3,000 ordinary Americans on 9/11) to date. All of this can be laid at the door of the "realism" of Powell and Scowcroft.

[HelloooClareece]

What she said was not a problem IMO. Islam is as defined by terrorism as Christianity is by Westboro Baptist Church. Dr. Rice was exercising good diplomacy.
I haven't been posting long, but long enough to know that anyone who doesn't share your gloom and doom attitude about this administration is a kool aid drinking bushbot to you. You have a right to that opinion of course, as long as you realize that it is only an opinion. You have a habit of posting your opinions as if they are gospel. Think again.

[Zack Nguyen]

bump.