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Prosecutor Fitzgerald, Where's the Beef?
National Ledger ^ | 10-29-05 | Jim Kouri - News Analysis

Posted on 10/29/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by smoothsailing

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1 posted on 10/29/2005 10:34:11 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing

"Beef" is not required when you're Martha Stewarting a political enemy. And to the DemocRATS, "that's a good thing."


2 posted on 10/29/2005 10:38:04 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: smoothsailing

The only beef is the one some rogue CIA folks have with this WH.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 10:41:01 AM PDT by frankjr
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To: smoothsailing
In the days ahead the Democrat Party blowhards will repeatedly talk about the Bush Administration's "culture of corruption."

The way to handle these rats is for the repubs from the president down to start governing as conservatives. Nominate a JRB type to the SCOTUS, pass laws that allow drilling in ANWR, pass laws that make building refineries easier, close the borders to illegals, start fining employers that hire illegals, cut the pork from the budget, etc. The rats will howl and it will be music to our ears.

4 posted on 10/29/2005 10:45:29 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: frankjr
Agreed.In the end, that is what this is about, sewage at CIA and State that needs flushing.
5 posted on 10/29/2005 10:47:49 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Mogollon
"Nominate a JRB type to the SCOTUS, pass laws that allow drilling in ANWR, pass laws that make building refineries easier, close the borders to illegals, start fining employers that hire illegals, cut the pork from the budget, etc. The rats will howl and it will be music to our ears."

That is the best strategy but Bush needs to wake up and realize that he is not in Texas anymore. He needs to have a "Toto, this isn't Kansas" experience. These are not Texas state Democrats that you can cut deals with like the ones you pulled off in Austin.

Bush and the Republicans need to fight back but not by directly getting into a mud slinging fest but by pushing conservative issues that the people will back but that will make the Democrats flip totally out of their skulls.
6 posted on 10/29/2005 10:53:59 AM PDT by inpajamas
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To: smoothsailing

The growing number of books by "former" and "disgruntled" CIA employees is a sign that Goss is cleaning up the Clintonista mess at the CIA. We Americans need to support this fight to get our CIA back from the DNC. Clinton did a lot of damage to this important organization during his eight years. No matter how hard the Liberal MSM fights to suppress it, "Able Danger" is coming.


7 posted on 10/29/2005 11:00:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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I'm about ''all donated out''...

But I'll find money to donate to Scooter's defense fund... Especially if his lawyers proceed as aggressively as the author recommends.


8 posted on 10/29/2005 11:00:49 AM PDT by LegendHasIt
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To: smoothsailing

Don't be hasty. Fitz isn't finished. He may yet generate an indictment against Karl Rove. If he hasn,t done so by the middle of next week, I'll begin to feel better, although key questions will remain unanswered.


9 posted on 10/29/2005 11:01:12 AM PDT by Elsiejay (Forever wondering)
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To: smoothsailing

If one thinks about the way Prosecutor Fitzgerald managed his rather immpressive caseload and won a very substantial number of convictions, think about this (1) Fitzgerald has thrown this whole case into the public domain where it deserves a through hearing (2) The case against Libby is mostly built around "he said / she said" and on its face is speculative, something that a good defense counsel will tear into and raise very substantial doubts in the minds of jurors (3) a lot of characters who have lied about the facts in this case, and did not figure in Fitzgeralds commentary or were peripheral to it will have to raise their hands in court and swear an oath to tell the truth and face the consequences of their earlier deception.

The whole nation will be exposed to this spectacular parade of the good the bad and the ugly and it will not be pretty. IMHO Libby will get off and there will be plenty of exposure focussed on activities in the State Department, CIA, media and Democratic party. A secret investigation within a Grand Jury could never get the response that a daily blow by blow account in an open court room will produce. The media will be forced to report the facts as they are spoken and televised, substantially depriving them of the ability to twist the facts to suit their political agendas.


10 posted on 10/29/2005 11:03:04 AM PDT by sydneysider
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To: smoothsailing

This case was the same as if someone was on trial for murder and was convicted of stealing. They didn't find what they wanted so they dropped down about five rungs just to make it look like a two year investigation wasn't a waste of time. Didn't fool me though. It was a waste of time and money.


11 posted on 10/29/2005 11:07:03 AM PDT by taxesareforever (Government is running amuck)
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To: Elsiejay

Fitzgerald can't indict Rove; at least not with this grand jury. There time is through. Fitzgerald would have to seat a new grand jury to bring indictment against Rove. That is very unlikely.


12 posted on 10/29/2005 11:08:00 AM PDT by marajade (Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
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To: smoothsailing

I've been watching Fitzgerald here in IL for years now. He may be nuts but he's not a partisian hack. He's just a hack IMHO.

He has made things bad for former Gov Ryan (R) but he's tormenting the heck out of Mayor Daley too.



13 posted on 10/29/2005 11:10:42 AM PDT by festus (The constitution may be flawed but its a whole lot better than what we have now.)
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To: Elsiejay

As long as Rove continues to tell the truth and doesn't say anything that the 'RATS can misconstrue as a "lie," he'll be okay. No crime was committed in this fiasco. It's just another 'RAT thing.


14 posted on 10/29/2005 11:12:34 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: smoothsailing

Of interest is why Libby volunteered for a perjury indictment instead of saying "I don't remember".


15 posted on 10/29/2005 11:17:00 AM PDT by ex-snook (Vote gridlock for the most conservative government)
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To: LegendHasIt

"In the days ahead the Democrat Party blowhards will repeatedly talk about the Bush Administration's "culture of corruption."

Remember all the crap and lies the Whigs have thrown at W since the day he announced. Remember that none of it stuck because people don't believe that W is an evil person.
Remember these things and rest easy. We pick up more seats next year because the Whigs have no positions on anything. They will learn that "I hate Bush, you must hate Bush too, so vote for me." doesn't work.


16 posted on 10/29/2005 11:37:18 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Everything points to it so why not call them the Whigs?)
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To: ex-snook
Of interest is why Libby volunteered for a perjury indictment instead of saying"I don't remember".

That has intrigued me as well.I have a theory,FWIW.Libby is by all accounts, a topnotch attorney and powerful behind the scene player in the hardball political cesspool of D.C.

He had to know that this SP was going nowhere with this lame investigation that had been invented by the CIA and ballyhooed by the leftist media and the DNC.

To him that meant the truth about Plame,Wilson,CIA rogue treason, and media culpability would never see the light of day.

He had to get the thing out of the secret GJ and into the public view of a court of law.

The bar will be much higher to prove his guilt, and he can call all the witnesses, supoena GJ documents and testimony,you name it.He can expose the whole sordid cabal that has been hell-bent on destroying our president and our country.

That's my take, I just hope it works.

17 posted on 10/29/2005 11:39:46 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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"Of course, no one asked about the fact that Joe Wilson mentioned his CIA wife in his bio posted on a seminar website well before the Robert Novak article outed Plame."

Seems like proof positive that Libby is innocent. With Joe out there outing his wife it seems impossible that it was not widely known in the press that his wife was CIA. Thus it is very very likely that Russett is the one that lied to the Grand Jury not Libby. This makes all the other indictments moot as they were all bassed on an asmption that Fitz made that Libby lied about his conversation with Russett.


18 posted on 10/29/2005 11:44:00 AM PDT by ImphClinton (Four More Years Go Bush)
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To: smoothsailing
did Valerie Plame testify before the grand jury? Did Joe Wilson?

My guess is that if they did testify, there were a few more FALSE STATEMENTS uttered to that Grand Jury. This is most likely a case of selective prosecution.

And I think Fitzpatrick should lay off the "National Security" concerns. If he really cared, he'd be investigating the infested CIA right now.

19 posted on 10/29/2005 11:49:25 AM PDT by TravisBickle (The War on Terror: Win It There or Fight It Here)
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To: sydneysider
You said it far better than I did (see post 17) but we are definitely on the same page!

Just to add one additional thought.I believe Scooter not only wanted this fight, I bet he demanded it!

20 posted on 10/29/2005 11:49:44 AM PDT by smoothsailing
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