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Oregon Schoolkids Given Palm Handhelds
PCMag via FoxNews.com ^ | October 28, 2005 | By Bary Alyssa Johnson

Posted on 10/29/2005 11:30:59 AM PDT by cloud8

At least eight high-tech school districts throughout Oregon have begun using Palm, Inc. technology in their classroom curriculum as part of a broad handheld integration program, the mobile computing company announced Thursday.

The integration concept jumped off in 2001 when Palm unveiled its Palm Education Pioneer (PEP) program grant.

With funding from the grant, more than 100 schools nationwide implemented Palm handhelds, while a number of research hubs studied the effectiveness of the device in a classroom setting, according to a recent press release.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: education; formoversubstance; handheld; oregon; palm; technologyeducation
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"Motivation is huge," Gill said in a statement. "...kids are producing more and doing better work than they did with paper and pencils. Using a handheld keeps them on task and helps them to be more successful."

What exactly can they do on a Palm, except play Mine Sweeper, that they can't do with pencil and paper?

1 posted on 10/29/2005 11:31:00 AM PDT by cloud8
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To: cloud8

I agree. This smells like another educrat boondoggle.


2 posted on 10/29/2005 11:32:23 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: cloud8

I agree. I have a friend that keeps telling me that I need to buy a palm pilot. He can't tell me why though. I love "gadgets" if they are useful.


3 posted on 10/29/2005 11:34:08 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We Gave Peace A Chance. It Didn't Work Out. Search keyword: 09-11-01.)
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To: cloud8

They can pass test messages to eachother with the infrared link. Or maybe even test answers!


4 posted on 10/29/2005 11:34:11 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: cloud8
If I had one of these when I was in HS I would have been a straight A+ student.

The cheating potential is unlimited, the learning potential is dubious.

5 posted on 10/29/2005 11:36:24 AM PDT by 11Bush
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To: FlingWingFlyer
IMHO PDAs are nice when bundled with a cell phone & internet:

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But for adults, not schoolkids.

6 posted on 10/29/2005 11:37:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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What exactly can they do on a Palm, except play Mine Sweeper, that they can't do with pencil and paper?

I'll let you know just as soon as I figure out what I can do with the one I bought 6 months ago besides take it out and recharge the battery once a month. Obviously, according to the article, they're of more use to 7 year-olds than they are to 43 year-old professionals.

7 posted on 10/29/2005 11:38:40 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: cloud8

It appears from the article that they're not doing any academic work that they couldn't do with paper, pencils, and books. What else they're doing is the real interesting question :-).


8 posted on 10/29/2005 11:38:55 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I'm not being paid enough to worry about all this stuff ... so I don't.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer
I love gadgets and the Palm is quite cool, though I tend to use it as an organizer for addresses and phone numbers, and not for my personal schedule. It does remind me two weeks before, and the day of, birthdays and anniversaries, etc, which is worth the price of admission alone!

Units like this are getting very integrated with other items, so I have my old Sony Clie and a 1.5 year old nice cell phone, but looking forward to an integrated solution (phone, mp3 player, personal organizer, etc).

While I love gadgets, I'm also a Luddite in some ways. I see no practical upside (given my work demands and values) in being able to get emails from people I know (work or personal) immediately as opposed to a few hours from now. My cell phone is there for me to call people, not for people to call me, and there's not a lick of difference if I take a call now, or take a message a couple of hours later.

Nobody is that important to me. And I don't like to be that easy to get a hold of. Familiarity breeds something, I understand...
9 posted on 10/29/2005 11:39:34 AM PDT by HitmanLV (Listen to my demos for Savage Nation contest: http://www.geocities.com/mr_vinnie_vegas/index.html)
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My son-in-law teaches History in New Jersey. His school is implementing a pilot program for integration of Tablet PCs in the classroom. He is working on History and Geography lessons with the necessary graphics to bring these subjects to life. For example, he might ask a student to point our the 13 colonies of Pre Revolutionary times.

The tablet is connected to a projector so that when the student uses the touch screen to highlight the map all the students will react. Students will be anxious to answer questions and be called to the front of the class to interact. Sounds like a powerful tool!

10 posted on 10/29/2005 11:41:06 AM PDT by Young Werther
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"Sounds like a powerful tool!"

The ONLY "powerful tools" required in a classroom -- is a competent TEACHER..and disciplined students.

Sadly - those are the missing tools in most classrooms.

Semper Fi

11 posted on 10/29/2005 11:50:23 AM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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One possible reason to go in this direction is the price of text books. If you can give the kids their text books as ebooks for $20 or less per child as opposed to $100 or more for hard copies, that's a significant savings. Plus if a kid loses his/her copy of a textbook, they have to buy another. With a ebook, they just have to download another copy at little to no cost.

Not to mention the fact that a Palm Pilot can hold dozens of ebooks at a time. So, instead of carrying around a ton of books in a backpack, they can carry even more info around in a handheld that weighs only a few ounces. I wish I had had my Tungsten T5 when I was in grade school, high school or college. I can't do with out it now.

Plus, there's the "cool" factor with kids. If you were raised on video games, which would you prefer to work with, books or handheld computers? I would expect that more kids would find it more fun to do their homework if it involves using a computer of any kind. My kids did, anyway.

That said, this is a public school system we're talking about and Teacher's Unions have demonstrated a singular talent for taking a good idea and turning it into a boodoggle. Here's hoping that doesn't happen here.

12 posted on 10/29/2005 11:53:46 AM PDT by Reaganesque
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To: cloud8

I use mine, with a folding keyboard, instead of a laptop at meetings.

My meeting notes are all organized, comprehensible, and electronically searchable.

I think, if used properly, PDAs can be a big addition to a classroom. The problem is that, if use of other computer technology in the classroom is any guide, it will be misused or unused if not implemented well.


13 posted on 10/29/2005 11:59:51 AM PDT by LouD
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To: FlingWingFlyer; cloud8
Let's see - I use my Zire 72 (mid-line Palm) to:

1: Read and store documents.
2: Read e-books. (I currently have about a dozen on it.)
3: Surf the 'Net; i.e., freep anywhere there's a WiFi point.
4: Send and receive e-mail.
5: Make notes.
6: Take pictures. (Built in camera.)
7. Store and view images.
8: Find chords and scales for my musical instruments.
9: Keep track of the things I need to do.
10: Etc., etc...

How useful it is for a grade-schooler is debatable, but I never leave home without it.
14 posted on 10/29/2005 12:15:00 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Texas State Motto: "Regular or Extra-Crispy?")
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To: martin_fierro
IMHO PDAs are nice when bundled with a cell phone & internet:

Good start. I'm waiting for the additional bundling of MP3, Video, AM/FM, TV and naviation.

15 posted on 10/29/2005 12:22:16 PM PDT by aimhigh
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To: HitmanNY

> While I love gadgets, I'm also a Luddite in some ways.

LOL Me too. I'm a minimalist Luddite--cheap *and* stubborn.


16 posted on 10/29/2005 12:32:18 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: Young Werther

> For example, he might ask a student to point out the 13 colonies of Pre Revolutionary times [on the tablet PC]

As opposed to asking, Johnnie please come up to the map and point out the 13 colonies.

I've taught with a computer, and find it best when *I'm* the only one using it, and the students are paying attention rather than surfing the web and sending email.

> Sounds like a powerful tool!

It may be. For example, the whole class could interact instead of just one at a time. Or it may be an expensive gimmick. I look forward to hearing how the program worked out for your son-in-law.


17 posted on 10/29/2005 12:42:01 PM PDT by cloud8
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To: martin_fierro

How about
edubrat boondoggle


18 posted on 10/29/2005 12:46:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: cloud8; oregon; abcraghead; aimhigh; Archie Bunker on steroids; bicycle thug; blackie; ...

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19 posted on 10/29/2005 12:47:09 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: martin_fierro; All

Must be hard to type an opus on that though, LOL! (My DH is a total Gadget Guy, too.)

As for the kids having these, it doesn't bother me that they're being given to the kids through a grant and not taxpayer dollars, but you can count on THAT being the next step. The grant will run out, the school district will think that each kid MUST have a Palm to "keep up" with those that went before and then the taxpayer will end up footing the bill for more of these things...ensuring a tidy profit from the original "grantor."

Nobody does nothin' for free.


20 posted on 10/29/2005 12:51:01 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (Save The Earth. It's The Only Planet With Chocolate.)
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