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Another Lost Opportunity (New York Times Whines and Cries About Alito Nomination)
New York Times ^ | November 1, 2005 | The Editors

Posted on 11/01/2005 5:22:43 AM PST by RWR8189

The nomination of Samuel Alito Jr. to the Supreme Court raises a lot of questions about the judge's attitudes toward federalism, privacy and civil rights. But it has already answered one big question about President Bush. Anyone wondering whether the almost endless setbacks and embarrassments the White House has suffered over the last year would cause Mr. Bush to fix his style of governing should realize that the answer is: no.

As a political candidate, Mr. Bush had an extremely useful ability to repeat the same few simple themes over and over. As president, he has been cramped by the same habit. The solution to almost every problem seems to be either to rely on a close personal associate or to pander to his right wing. When the first tactic failed to work with the Harriet Miers nomination, Mr. Bush resorted to the second. The Alito nomination has thrilled social conservatives, who regard the judge to be a surefire vote against abortion rights.

Judge Alito is clearly a smart and experienced jurist, with 15 years on the United States Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit. The nominee should be given a serious hearing. The need for a close and careful review of Judge Alito's record is all the more crucial because he will be replacing Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been the swing vote of moderation on so many issues.

The concerns about this particular nominee go beyond his apparent hostility to abortion, which was most graphically demonstrated in 1992 when his court ruled on what became known in the Supreme Court as the Casey decision. Judge Alito was the sole judge on his court who took the extreme position that all of Pennsylvania's limitations on abortion were constitutional, including the outrageous requirement that a woman show that

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1 posted on 11/01/2005 5:22:44 AM PST by RWR8189
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To: RWR8189

Bump. Whine louder, grey lady, it's music to my ears.


2 posted on 11/01/2005 5:25:43 AM PST by Mamzelle (.)
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To: Mamzelle
<<>>Only in your pathetic LIBERAL minds NYSLIMES/TIMES. Millions of common-sense Americans think the Prez has it together.
3 posted on 11/01/2005 5:29:07 AM PST by Jazzman1
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To: RWR8189
The nomination of Samuel Alito Jr. to the Supreme Court raises a lot of questions about the judge's attitudes toward federalism, privacy and civil rights.

Damn, then why did the Senate vote for him previously ........... 99-0?

Sweet.

4 posted on 11/01/2005 5:29:37 AM PST by beyond the sea (Gloria Borger is Andrea Mitchell on Peyote)
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To: RWR8189
"Disheartening" to the New York Times liberals! Music to my ears! The rest of their editorial is the usual talking points about what a presumed radical Samuel Alito is. I hope they keep it up. Its fun to watch the Left tear its hair out over such a nice guy. It tickles me pink to see them argue Bush should have nominated a "moderate." Did Clinton appoint one as President? Of course not! Who won the election? With these liberals, their hysteria is a wonderful opportunity to put them on the defensive and underscore the reality they lost last year. They have no right to dictate to Republicans who gets to sit on the courts. Laura Ingraham could tell them its time to shut up and hold your peace.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

5 posted on 11/01/2005 5:32:21 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RWR8189

"The nominee should be given a serious hearing."

There we go, that's the NY Times endorsement right there.

I forget ... did this sentence get published in the Editorial for Harriet?


6 posted on 11/01/2005 5:32:40 AM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: beyond the sea
Yeah they found him acceptable 15 years ago. What's changed since then? No, not Alito but the Left which has moved far out of the mainstream of American life.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

7 posted on 11/01/2005 5:34:06 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: RWR8189
From the NY Times op-ed:

"The need for a close and careful review of Judge Alito's record is all the more crucial because he will be replacing Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been the swing vote of moderation on so many issues."

One paragraph later:

"Judge Alito was the sole judge on his court who took the extreme position that all of Pennsylvania's limitations on abortion were constitutional, including the outrageous requirement that a woman show that she had notified her spouse."

According to today's John Podhoretz column, Alito based that decision on the opinions of one Sandra Day O'Connor. Does the NY Times even employ any fact checkers anymore?

8 posted on 11/01/2005 5:36:41 AM PST by HHFi
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To: HHFi
LOL! I guess they still have Jayson Blair as their Chief Fact Checker. Never let liberals be bothered by facts inconvenient to an argument they wish to make.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

9 posted on 11/01/2005 5:38:46 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: HHFi
Does the NY Times even employ any fact checkers anymore?

That can't be a serious question. Since when did the NYT bother with facts?

10 posted on 11/01/2005 5:39:40 AM PST by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: RWR8189

Thw NYT has simply become a parody of itself.


11 posted on 11/01/2005 5:40:45 AM PST by Malesherbes
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To: RWR8189

"... his apparent hostility to abortion"

What a choice of words. Oh, yeah, and it's outrageous that a woman has to notify her husband before trying to murder his unborn kid.

Tremendous choice, Mr. President!



12 posted on 11/01/2005 5:47:39 AM PST by American in Singapore (Who needs Comedy Central when we have liberals?)
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To: RWR8189
[But it has already answered one big question about President Bush. Anyone wondering whether the almost endless setbacks and embarrassments the White House has suffered over the last year would cause Mr. Bush to fix his style of governing should realize that the answer is: no.]

Cannot help but wonder, that after Alito's confirmation to the 'Bench'. . .what then do these Lefties have in mind for Bush. . .

What is next in their playbook of political scandals from which these 'embarassing attacks' are calculated, orchestrated and generated. . .designed as they are to bring down President Bush and his second term, to a level of damning irrelevancy. . .

I wonder if any of the good Leftists at the 'NYTimes' has read that far. . .

13 posted on 11/01/2005 5:47:46 AM PST by cricket (No Freedom - No Peace)
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To: RWR8189
"The concerns about this particular nominee go beyond his apparent hostility to abortion.."

Can you believe that statement!! Do these hateful, rats realize what they say half the time..."his apparent holtility to abortion.." how about their blatant hostility toward an unborn child?! They should just keep on talking..it's worth the entertainment factor.
14 posted on 11/01/2005 5:47:56 AM PST by ladiesview61
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To: RWR8189
This editorial staff would have written scathing broadsides against Gen. Washington, Alex Hamilton, Patrick Henry, John Adams, et al.

They do serve a useful puropose though: just think and do the exact opposite of what they say and you will always be right.

15 posted on 11/01/2005 5:51:13 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: RWR8189

so, in the future let's hypothetically say dems regain control of the white house at some point... further let's hypothetically say scalia is mortal... are the dems going to be as concerned as they are now about replacing justices with like minded justices?

if so why not just write it into law: the court is comprised of two lefty libs, two righty tighties, two leftward leaning centrists, two rightward leaning centrists, and one wild card.

now, how in the world do we agree on how to label candidates...?



rediculous... the courts are 50-75% of the reason for winning the white house. duh. bush certainly wasn't re-elected for his fiscal constraint, or for his veto pen usage, or for his smaller-government agenda. geez, get with the program demDUms.


16 posted on 11/01/2005 5:52:40 AM PST by kpp_kpp
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To: RWR8189

This is actually more measured from the Times than I expected.


17 posted on 11/01/2005 5:55:25 AM PST by The Iguana
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To: RWR8189
The need for a close and careful review of Judge Alito's record is all the more crucial because he will be replacing Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been the swing vote of moderation on so many issues.

Okay, this has always frosted me. Since when did the doctrine of replacing a "moderate" with a moderate become a dictate? Only in a liberals mind! You mean to tell me that if Rehnquist had died during the Clinton Administration that the NYSlimes would be calling on Clinton to replace that position with a conservative??

Once again, more disingenousness and sheer hypocrisy from the old gray whore.

18 posted on 11/01/2005 5:55:55 AM PST by Obadiah ( Deuteronomy 6:5)
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To: RWR8189
Anyone wondering whether the almost endless setbacks and embarrassments the White House has suffered over the last year would cause Mr. Bush to fix his style of governing should realize that the answer is: no.

LOL!!The Old Grey Lady can't stand it because she can't 'influence' the President, even though she's been trying hard with all her doom and gloom reporting about him this last year.

The MSM will NEVER learn that this President doesn't govern by poll like his predecessor did.

19 posted on 11/01/2005 6:00:16 AM PST by SuziQ
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To: Pharmboy
Since I never read the slimes, is it common practice for them to just sign off on an editorial as "The Editors"? Or is it the fact that no one wants to take credit (or blame) for this nonsense?
20 posted on 11/01/2005 6:03:35 AM PST by kc2theline (UpChuck & Hildabeast don't represent me.)
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To: RWR8189
I'd be willing to bet the boneheads at the NY Slimes NEVER EVER EVER criticized Bill Clintoon for nominating TWO LIBERALS to the SCOTUS.
21 posted on 11/01/2005 6:05:39 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: HHFi
"The need for a close and careful review of Judge Alito's record is all the more crucial because he will be replacing Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been the swing vote of moderation on so many issues."

Years from now when some Dem President is nominating people to the SC, will the NYT's worry that a "conservative white male" seat should be filled with another "conservative white male"? Hell would freeze over first. The NYT's isn't stating principle, they're seeking liberal advantage.

22 posted on 11/01/2005 6:05:56 AM PST by GOPJ (Is every democrat a bent kneed Monica?)
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To: Mamzelle
As a political candidate, Mr. Bush had an extremely useful ability to repeat the same few simple themes over and over. As president, he has been cramped by the same habit.

Damn. He's consistent, then? That must drive you punks at the Slimes crazy!

23 posted on 11/01/2005 6:06:42 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: RWR8189

Can you imagine all the libs reading this editorial this morning and crying into their coffee?

My sister is a committed NY leftist, and never fails to read the Times. She always has a rough time during family gatherings - she gets the Times every morning and the rest of us sit and read the NY Post.

This kills her. We are so uncouth.


24 posted on 11/01/2005 6:09:29 AM PST by I still care (America is not the problem - it is the solution..)
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To: GOPJ

Did the Times advocate replacing Harry Blackmun, Republican nominated by Nixon, with a conservative or were they happy when Clinton replaced him with Democrat Breyer?


25 posted on 11/01/2005 6:15:58 AM PST by Tymesup
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To: kc2theline

All of their editorials are unsigned.


26 posted on 11/01/2005 6:23:03 AM PST by Pharmboy (The stone age didn't end because they ran out of stones.)
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To: RWR8189

"to pander to his right wing"

We ELECTED him to "pander" to us. We, the majority of voters in the last election voted for him because he said he would do what we wanted, that he would steer the country in the direciton we approved of. This is what we wanted; this is what we voted for. If this is pandering- bring it on!


27 posted on 11/01/2005 6:24:23 AM PST by brothers4thID (Do you stand with us, or are you going to just stand in the way?)
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To: goldstategop

The NY Slimes would make a boatload of money if they killed their entire editorial staff, got rid of the AP stories and basically trashed the paper.

Just print the crosswords and the NY Slimes would be the highest selling newspaper in the country.


28 posted on 11/01/2005 6:24:57 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Liberal Talking Point - Bush = Hitler ... Republican Talking Point - Let the Liberals Talk)
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To: RWR8189

....the almost endless setbacks and embarrassments the White House has suffered over the last year .....

The propaganda effort is failing. No one thinks there have been endless setbacks and embarassment.

These conditions have prevailed at the OGW but not at the White House.


29 posted on 11/01/2005 6:25:37 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . Chicken spit causes flu....... Fox News)
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To: RWR8189
Judge Alito was the sole judge on his court who took the extreme position that all of Pennsylvania's limitations on abortion were constitutional, including the outrageous requirement that a woman show that she had notified her spouse.

What is "outrageous" about that?

Presumably, the conception of a child within a marriage is a joint activity and the husband should have some rights in any decision to pervert the outcome.

30 posted on 11/01/2005 6:29:10 AM PST by Wil H
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To: RWR8189
As president, he has been cramped by the same habit. The solution to almost every problem seems to be either to rely on a close personal associate or to pander to his right wing.

Wished he had use some of that pandering when it came to the open borders--education bill--CFR--Medicare Drugs --etc
31 posted on 11/01/2005 6:33:48 AM PST by uncbob
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To: goldstategop
Did Clinton appoint one as President? Of course not! Who won the election?

And Clinton was a MINORITY president who the Times treated like he had a landslide popular vote
32 posted on 11/01/2005 6:35:50 AM PST by uncbob
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To: Malesherbes
Thw NYT has simply become a parody of itself.

BECOME!!! It been that way for many moons
33 posted on 11/01/2005 6:37:39 AM PST by uncbob
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To: HHFi

I bet 33% of voters believe it was a "outrageous requirement" - the rat base and they alone.


34 posted on 11/01/2005 6:42:54 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: RWR8189

A hit dog howls...so GOOD to hear the Old Gray Whore's anguish over the coming loss of the SCOTUS for the libs. It was their hideout over the long years when they were losing everything else. Gullible Republican presidents and the senate gave us the liberal SCOTUS that the libs have been legislating with for the past 3 decades. That time is over and the Left knows it.
Next, conservatives are coming for the universities and churches. We will reclaim our culture one liberal fortress at a time, and we will be relentless. It's for our children.


35 posted on 11/01/2005 6:43:58 AM PST by kittymyrib
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To: Wil H

this did not even imply consent. Just notification. Maybe he could grieve or pray. The law was denying even this.


36 posted on 11/01/2005 6:45:05 AM PST by epluribus_2
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To: RWR8189

I love the howls of whining from the old grey bitch in the morning!

Alito was ruling that Bob Casey, the DEMOCRAT governor of PA - acted constitutionally in signing the Penn. Abortion Control Act into law.

Some extremist that Alito.


37 posted on 11/01/2005 6:49:56 AM PST by Kryptonite (McCain, Graham, Warner, Snowe, Collins, DeWine, Chafee - put them in your sights)
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To: Mamzelle

Priceless, isn't it? if you thin this article was a good whine check out the DUmmies.. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x2202281#2202311

What a crack up!


38 posted on 11/01/2005 6:50:14 AM PST by Wil H
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To: RWR8189

The NYT is committed to Marxism, socialism and communism. It loves European "isms." The paper should change its name to the Newism Yorkism Timesism.


39 posted on 11/01/2005 6:51:09 AM PST by sergeantdave (Member of the Arbor Day Foundation, travelling the country and destroying open space)
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To: RWR8189

This is the first NY Times editorial I've read in a long time. Substance aside, I was shocked by the mediocre quality of the writing itself. Standards at the Times have evidently declined.

As to the substance, I note this line:

"Alito . . . took the extreme position that . . . the outrageous requirement that a woman show that she had notified her spouse" was constitutional.

This is typical results-oriented liberal-think on the constitution.

If you don't like a law, if you think it's "outrageous," why then, it should be overturned. Note that the Times doesn't offer any substantive argument demonstrating the law's unconstitutionality.


40 posted on 11/01/2005 6:55:04 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest (read my posts on Today show bias at www.newsbusters.org)
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To: Wil H
They never offer any principled arguments for opposing Alito. Just the same tired old playbook cliches. And the DU Dummies are not exactly big on ideas...

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

41 posted on 11/01/2005 7:05:33 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Hardly extreme. After all the purpose of the provision to give a husband a say in the life of his child. Its not just the wife's baby. It takes TWO people to conceive a child. A fact that seems to be lost on the Left.

("Denny Crane: Gun Control? For Communists. She's a liberal. Can't hunt.")

42 posted on 11/01/2005 7:07:35 AM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: gobucks
"The nominee should be given a serious hearing." fair trial, followed by a first class hanging."

What the NYT really wanted to say.

43 posted on 11/01/2005 7:11:38 AM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: Tymesup
Did the Times advocate replacing Harry Blackmun, Republican nominated by Nixon, with a conservative or were they happy when Clinton replaced him with Democrat Breyer?

I'm going to go out on a limb here, but my guess is they were happy with the dem...

44 posted on 11/01/2005 7:18:07 AM PST by GOPJ (Is every democrat a bent kneed Monica?)
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To: I still care
My sister is a committed NY leftist, and never fails to read the Times. She always has a rough time during family gatherings - she gets the Times every morning and the rest of us sit and read the NY Post. This kills her. We are so uncouth.

uncouth=properly informed?
45 posted on 11/01/2005 7:50:14 AM PST by Edgerunner (Proud to be an infidel)
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To: RWR8189

The Gray Lady has fallen and she can't get up.


46 posted on 11/01/2005 7:55:38 AM PST by rightinthemiddle (I know my enemy. I have Cable TV.)
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To: RWR8189

The Editors:

Schummer, Kennedy, Reid, Feinstein...


47 posted on 11/01/2005 8:01:43 AM PST by Eddie01 (I'm coming to the conclusion I'm really not smart enough to post here.)
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To: RWR8189

When liberals cry, one knows one is on the right track.

Regards, Ivan


48 posted on 11/01/2005 8:02:28 AM PST by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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To: RWR8189

"The solution to almost every problem seems to be either to rely on a close personal associate or to pander to his right wing."

Why would he rely on anyone but his close personal associates? I don't recall Clinton relying on anyone but close, personal associates or pandering to anything other than the left!

And for the record, NYT's: Bush pandered plenty to you leftist pigs. It got him nowhere!


49 posted on 11/01/2005 8:07:58 AM PST by jw777
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To: RWR8189

They long for the Miers era!


50 posted on 11/01/2005 8:09:19 AM PST by airborne (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't!)
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