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Heated day in D.C. leads to more prewar probes. Democrats claim victory.
MSNBC ^ | Nov. 1, 2005 | MSNBC Staff

Posted on 11/01/2005 7:28:34 PM PST by FairOpinion

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To: Howlin

Pat Roberts said the schedule was either next Tuesday or Thursday, but it was definitely next week


61 posted on 11/01/2005 8:43:11 PM PST by MJY1288 (Whenever a Liberal is Speaking on the Senate Floor, Al-Jazeera Breaks in and Covers it LIVE)
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To: FairOpinion

"WHY, oh, WHY did the Republicans agree to this?!!!!!!!"

The Republicans didn't agree to anything new. The committee had scheduled it. The Democrats and MSNBC are grandstanding. We should let MSNBC know we know that the Democrats won nothing.


62 posted on 11/01/2005 8:45:13 PM PST by righttackle44 (The most dangerous weapon in the world is a Marine with his rifle and the American people behind him)
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To: Peach
Hey Peach, Here is a link to
500 Tons of Uranium in Iraq!
63 posted on 11/01/2005 8:46:42 PM PST by DocRock
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To: GianniV

Not only that .. but how many months were we haggling with the UN over the issue of Iraq. I think the total time was 14 months delay.


64 posted on 11/01/2005 8:47:54 PM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: FairOpinion
Democrats claimed “victory for the American people” Tuesday after the Senate Intelligence Committee agreed to continue an investigation into prewar intelligence claims made by the Republicans, the Senate minority leader said.

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

"(Saddam) will rebuild his arsenal of weapons of mass destruction and some day, some way, I am certain he will use that arsenal again, as he has 10 times since 1983" -- National Security Adviser Sandy Berger, Feb 18, 1998

"Iraq made commitments after the Gulf War to completely dismantle all weapons of mass destruction, and unfortunately, Iraq has not lived up to its agreement." -- Barbara Boxer, November 8, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retained some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capability. Intelligence reports also indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons, but has not yet achieved nuclear capability." -- Robert Byrd, October 2002

"There's no question that Saddam Hussein is a threat... Yes, he has chemical and biological weapons. He's had those for a long time. But the United States right now is on a very much different defensive posture than we were before September 11th of 2001... He is, as far as we know, actively pursuing nuclear capabilities, though he doesn't have nuclear warheads yet. If he were to acquire nuclear weapons, I think our friends in the region would face greatly increased risks as would we." -- Wesley Clark on September 26, 2002

"What is at stake is how to answer the potential threat Iraq represents with the risk of proliferation of WMD. Baghdad's regime did use such weapons in the past. Today, a number of evidences may lead to think that, over the past four years, in the absence of international inspectors, this country has continued armament programs." -- Jacques Chirac, October 16, 2002

"The community of nations may see more and more of the very kind of threat Iraq poses now: a rogue state with weapons of mass destruction, ready to use them or provide them to terrorists. If we fail to respond today, Saddam and all those who would follow in his footsteps will be emboldened tomorrow." -- Bill Clinton in 1998

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including Al Qaeda members, though there is apparently no evidence of his involvement in the terrible events of September 11, 2001. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons. Should he succeed in that endeavor, he could alter the political and security landscape of the Middle East, which as we know all too well affects American security." -- Hillary Clinton, October 10, 2002

"I am absolutely convinced that there are weapons...I saw evidence back in 1998 when we would see the inspectors being barred from gaining entry into a warehouse for three hours with trucks rolling up and then moving those trucks out." -- Clinton's Secretary of Defense William Cohen in April of 2003

"Iraq is not the only nation in the world to possess weapons of mass destruction, but it is the only nation with a leader who has used them against his own people." -- Tom Daschle in 1998

"Saddam Hussein's regime represents a grave threat to America and our allies, including our vital ally, Israel. For more than two decades, Saddam Hussein has sought weapons of mass destruction through every available means. We know that he has chemical and biological weapons. He has already used them against his neighbors and his own people, and is trying to build more. We know that he is doing everything he can to build nuclear weapons, and we know that each day he gets closer to achieving that goal." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"The debate over Iraq is not about politics. It is about national security. It should be clear that our national security requires Congress to send a clear message to Iraq and the world: America is united in its determination to eliminate forever the threat of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction." -- John Edwards, Oct 10, 2002

"I share the administration's goals in dealing with Iraq and its weapons of mass destruction." -- Dick Gephardt in September of 2002

"Iraq does pose a serious threat to the stability of the Persian Gulf and we should organize an international coalition to eliminate his access to weapons of mass destruction. Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to completely deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power." -- Al Gore, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction." -- Bob Graham, December 2002

"Saddam Hussein is not the only deranged dictator who is willing to deprive his people in order to acquire weapons of mass destruction." -- Jim Jeffords, October 8, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." -- Ted Kennedy, September 27, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated. He must be disarmed." -- Ted Kennedy, Sept 27, 2002

"I will be voting to give the president of the United States the authority to use force - if necessary - to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security." -- John F. Kerry, Oct 2002

"The threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but as I said, it is not new. It has been with us since the end of that war, and particularly in the last 4 years we know after Operation Desert Fox failed to force him to reaccept them, that he has continued to build those weapons. He has had a free hand for 4 years to reconstitute these weapons, allowing the world, during the interval, to lose the focus we had on weapons of mass destruction and the issue of proliferation." -- John Kerry, October 9, 2002

"(W)e need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime. We all know the litany of his offenses. He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. ...And now he is miscalculating America’s response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction. That is why the world, through the United Nations Security Council, has spoken with one voice, demanding that Iraq disclose its weapons programs and disarm. So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real, but it is not new. It has been with us since the end of the Persian Gulf War." -- John Kerry, Jan 23, 2003

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandates of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." -- Carl Levin, Sept 19, 2002

"Every day Saddam remains in power with chemical weapons, biological weapons, and the development of nuclear weapons is a day of danger for the United States." -- Joe Lieberman, August, 2002

"Over the years, Iraq has worked to develop nuclear, chemical and biological weapons. During 1991 - 1994, despite Iraq's denials, U.N. inspectors discovered and dismantled a large network of nuclear facilities that Iraq was using to develop nuclear weapons. Various reports indicate that Iraq is still actively pursuing nuclear weapons capability. There is no reason to think otherwise. Beyond nuclear weapons, Iraq has actively pursued biological and chemical weapons.U.N. inspectors have said that Iraq's claims about biological weapons is neither credible nor verifiable. In 1986, Iraq used chemical weapons against Iran, and later, against its own Kurdish population. While weapons inspections have been successful in the past, there have been no inspections since the end of 1998. There can be no doubt that Iraq has continued to pursue its goal of obtaining weapons of mass destruction." -- Patty Murray, October 9, 2002

"As a member of the House Intelligence Committee, I am keenly aware that the proliferation of chemical and biological weapons is an issue of grave importance to all nations. Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process." -- Nancy Pelosi, December 16, 1998

"Even today, Iraq is not nearly disarmed. Based on highly credible intelligence, UNSCOM [the U.N. weapons inspectors] suspects that Iraq still has biological agents like anthrax, botulinum toxin, and clostridium perfringens in sufficient quantity to fill several dozen bombs and ballistic missile warheads, as well as the means to continue manufacturing these deadly agents. Iraq probably retains several tons of the highly toxic VX substance, as well as sarin nerve gas and mustard gas. This agent is stored in artillery shells, bombs, and ballistic missile warheads. And Iraq retains significant dual-use industrial infrastructure that can be used to rapidly reconstitute large-scale chemical weapons production." -- Ex-Un Weapons Inspector Scott Ritter in 1998

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years. And that may happen sooner if he can obtain access to enriched uranium from foreign sources -- something that is not that difficult in the current world. We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Saddam’s existing biological and chemical weapons capabilities pose a very real threat to America, now. Saddam has used chemical weapons before, both against Iraq’s enemies and against his own people. He is working to develop delivery systems like missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles that could bring these deadly weapons against U.S. forces and U.S. facilities in the Middle East." -- John Rockefeller, Oct 10, 2002

"Whether one agrees or disagrees with the Administration’s policy towards Iraq, I don’t think there can be any question about Saddam’s conduct. He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do. He lies and cheats; he snubs the mandate and authority of international weapons inspectors; and he games the system to keep buying time against enforcement of the just and legitimate demands of the United Nations, the Security Council, the United States and our allies. Those are simply the facts." -- Henry Waxman, Oct 10, 2002

65 posted on 11/01/2005 8:51:17 PM PST by Polybius
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To: FairOpinion

It's my understanding that the meetings were already scheduled. This was grandstanding, plain and simple.


66 posted on 11/01/2005 8:52:59 PM PST by Not A Snowbird (Official RKBA Landscaper and Arborist, Duchess of Green Leafy Things)
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To: FairOpinion

Is this guy Senator Prissy or what?
67 posted on 11/01/2005 9:00:07 PM PST by vox_freedom (Fear no evil)
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To: Mo1

No .. I just turned the TV off tonight. I can't stand the constant repeat of the same stories. After NCIS is over there's very little on.


68 posted on 11/01/2005 9:01:58 PM PST by CyberAnt (I BELIEVE CONGRESSMAN WELDON!)
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To: FairOpinion
prewar intelligence claims made by the Republicans

This is what we have to fight. The claims were made by the ADMINISTRATION, by our COUNTRY. There is no "republican" and "democrat" governments. There is ONE government, and that government is the government of ALL the people.

And that government, duly elected, came to a duly authorized conclusion to go to war. It isn't a republican war, it is an AMERICAN war.

It's time the democrats rejoined America.

69 posted on 11/01/2005 9:10:51 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: Howlin
Is there a link to Roberts' speech?

I haven't found one yet

Looks like the Senate won't have it online till tomorrow

70 posted on 11/01/2005 9:11:11 PM PST by Mo1
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To: Howlin

Do you know where you read that? I might right about this for my next column and that would be a great gotcha. (a quote from a newspaper that Roberts had said the report was almost done BEFORE this temper-tantrum).


71 posted on 11/01/2005 9:16:42 PM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: satchmodog9
You can actually sit there and tell me the barrage of negative media has not hurt the GOP and Bush?

Sure it hurts some, but you might as well say that the sun rising in the east has hurt them, because there is nothing you can do about it.

All we can do is agree that the MSM is incompetent, and agree not to aid their cause by patronizing their sponsors or utilizing their product.

Thanks to sites like this, who needs them.

72 posted on 11/01/2005 9:19:50 PM PST by lawnguy (It works Napoleon, you don't even know.)
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To: Peach

Fantastic links in #17, Peach... thanks! I'll ping my list to your post.


73 posted on 11/01/2005 9:38:31 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: satchmodog9
It's the sound bite that sells ideas to a lot of people.

Right, like the sound bite that this was linked to a CIA agent's leaked identity. The crime of a CIA leak has not yet been identified as prosecutable by Fitzgerald yet it continues on and on in the headlines. Too good to lay off.

ATTENTION MSM!!!

Libby was not charged with leaking a CIA agent's identity!

Nor was Karl Rove!

Fathom that MSM!

74 posted on 11/01/2005 9:38:59 PM PST by ThirstyMan (hysteria: the elixir of the Left that trumps all reason)
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To: satchmodog9

Utter hogwash.........this can only hurt the Dems. I truly believe the American people are sick of this BS. They've had it. They want the politics to stop, from the left....(well, except for the moonbats, I'm sure they want it to continue)

The Dems have no agenda. They do nothing but obstruct. The American people are worried about their retirement, social security, medical insurance. They don't give a rat's ass what Libby said to whom. It's ridiculous.

The Dems are just spinning their wheels and digging themselves in deeper.

I hope they all follow Daschle.


75 posted on 11/01/2005 9:39:29 PM PST by Shortstop7
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
Check out the excellent links Peach has compiled in #17.

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

76 posted on 11/01/2005 9:39:35 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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To: CharlesWayneCT

I cannot remember which thread it was on, but it was on a Wilson threads -- one where we talked about Pat Roberts' report about Joe Wilson.

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:o2gDJZU-bRIJ:roberts.senate.gov/07-09a-2004.htm+senator+pat+roberts+Joseph+Wilson&hl=en


77 posted on 11/01/2005 9:45:30 PM PST by Howlin
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To: FairOpinion
The DinoRats Screeched fiercly as they sank deeper into the tarpits....

Pray for W and Our Troops

78 posted on 11/01/2005 9:46:28 PM PST by bray (Iraq, freed from Saddamn now Pray for Freedom from Mohammad)
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To: Mo1
This will backfire on the Dems

Will it? The [propaganda, media] perception is reality. Most TV viewers believe the 'Crats actually *did* something to punish the *criminal* *out of control* Pubbies. Frist & Co. don't have a clue about the real world.

79 posted on 11/01/2005 9:49:58 PM PST by Bernard Marx (Don't make the mistake of interpreting my Civility as Servility)
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To: satchmodog9
You can actually sit there and tell me the barrage of negative media has not hurt the GOP and Bush?

Yep because even usually reliable Dem mouthpieces in the Dinasour Media had to admit what Dingy and his clowns pulled today was nothing but a PR stunt. When ever their mouth pieces have to quit making excuses for them the Dims are in trouble. Oh, and by pissing off the Senate Republicans,

Alito, you are SO confirmed.

80 posted on 11/01/2005 9:50:14 PM PST by MNJohnnie (Merry Alitomas!)
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