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Russia says new Topol RS-12 mobile ICBM can evade U.S. missile defense
RBC.ru via translation ^ | November 2, 2005

Posted on 11/01/2005 11:32:56 PM PST by HAL9000

New Russian rockets are capable to overcome American ABOUT

The Russian militarians approve, that have received the nuclear warhead, capable to overcome antimissile defense of the USA. Results of the test of an intercontinental ballistic missile lead yesterday "Poplar-th" testify to it with a new head part, informs a today's issue of the edition "Businessman".

Yesterday's rocket firing ?N-12I1 "Poplar-th" from a mobile launcher was already the sixth within the limits of test of the system created for overcoming of the American antimissile defense. However for the first time start-up has been made not from Plesetsk, and from proving ground Kapustin Jar on the tenth proving ground Balkhash located in Kazakhstan (Priozersk). It has been made that means of tracking of the USA for Alaska could not observe of the maneuvers, made by warheads after branch from intercontinental ballistic missiles. At flight from Kapustin Jara to Balkhash all parameters of flight can be supervised by exclusively Russian means of the control.

Yesterday Ministry of Defence has declared, that start-up was successful. The Russian militarians approve, that the maneuver made by a warhead on a trajectory of its flight on a final site does not allow to carry out its interception and destruction by existing systems of antimissile defense.

Under the application of strategic purpose of Nikolay Solovtsova ordering rocket armies, equipment of regular parts by mobile "Poplars-ths" with new warheads should begin in 2006. In the further annually in armies should act up to nine launchers. In parallel new warheads it is planned to establish for 40 units already developed in quantity mine "Poplar-th" and perspective sea rockets "Aoeaaa-30", created for arms of nuclear submarines.

Besides the Moscow institute heating engineers now works above equipment of "Poplars-th" by divided head parts of individual prompting. If this project will be realized, Russia for the first time will start creation mnogozarjadnyh intercontinental ballistic missiles after Moscow has refused their manufacture on conditions of niaaonei-American contract NIA-2 which has stopped the existence after the beginning of creation by Washington systems ABOUT.

We Shall remind, that all several days ago, on October, 27th Armed forces of the Russian Federation have made the first tests of other rocket of new generation "Bulava". Then the heavy rocket underwater cruiser of strategic purpose of Northern fleet "Dmitry Donskoj" under command of the captain of 1-st rank of Arcady Romanov has made start-up of a ballistic missile of sea basing "Bulava" from water area of the White sea on range the Hen on Kamchatka.

As the assistant to the commander-in-chief of the Navy - the chief of the press-service of the Navy the captain of 1-st rank Igor Dygalo has informed, the head part of a rocket in an estimated time has hit the target on range. As have noted in Ministry of Defence of the Russian Federation, distinctive feature of the given rocket is that it is completely developed and created at the enterprises of the Russian defensive complex. Besides "Bulavu" probably to unify with a ground rocket complex of strategic purpose "Poplar-th".

In the ministry have added, that after test start-up the rocket will be established on arms of underwater cruisers of the project 955, one of which, APL "Jury Dolgoruky", will be a part of the Navy of the Russian Federation in 2007a.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; icbm; missile; missiles; rs12; russia; russianmilitary; sovietmilitary; topol; ussr2
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To: operation clinton cleanup
Also, do we have any rail launched missiles anymore?

Did we ever, besides on the drawing board?

There were plans to have 50 Peacekeeper ICBM's moved around the U.S. by rail so it would be impossible for the Soviets to target them but Congress killed that idea.

81 posted on 11/02/2005 6:27:21 PM PST by COEXERJ145 (http://www.navyfield.com)
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I don't know. That's why I asked.


82 posted on 11/02/2005 6:29:27 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: operation clinton cleanup

sorry I included the word "anymore"


83 posted on 11/02/2005 6:29:58 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Sorry, didn't mean it to sound that way. Democrat congress killed idea of making MX rail-mobile... or any scheme that would make the Soviets feel venerable.
84 posted on 11/02/2005 6:34:42 PM PST by operation clinton cleanup
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To: elbucko
You're part right. The ABM missile system, using stand-off blasts from 5 meg warheads exoatmospheric(meaning out of the atmosphere)and small, ER-type("neutron bomb") endoatmospheric interceptors was dismantled in 1975. The idea was to burst the big warhead in the path of a bunch of RV's from incoming Missiles, and knock them out , still in space, before reentry. Some of the RV's , would evade the blasts, and so the Smaller missiles with the ER warheads would burst inside of the atmosphere, at high altitude, to knock out RV"s that penetrated the atmosphere,before they reached the target area.

Democrats, listening to envoromental and anti-nuclear groups, however, fought the system from the beginning, and it was successfully dismantled, only 1 day after becomming operational!!

However, the missiles were called Spartans(exo') and Sprints(endo's) Look up the Sprint launch. It is fascinating to see, it is FAST!!!(had to be, to intercept an RV that had made it through reentry.)

85 posted on 11/02/2005 7:13:45 PM PST by Rca2000 ( "What? No gravy? (POW!!) "Next time, remember the gravy!!!"(From "Chow Hound",1951.))
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To: elbucko; All
SO right you are. Most people are more in tune, to Hollywood, and what Ben Afleck or Jennifer Garner are doing, or what fashion styles are hot nowdays, to remotely understand the threat that ICBM's (even the older ones) pose.Ask an average person what MIRV means, and they will respond"wasn't he a talk-show producer"? Ask what staging means, and they will probably say, " Oh , that is when the actors do things that are not spontaneous", and so on. Most even believe that we can stop ICBM"s, saying "we got a system to intercept them". If only this was true.

Now, it seems that the country that can't feed it's people, or pay its soldiers, is trying to one-up the US, and deploy a missile with MARV warheads. (maneuverable reentry vehicles, that can evade defenses against them). Of course, in Russia, they don't have to worry about special interest groups opposing any of this, like the US does. They "just do it".

I wonder how safe the average, uneducated US citizen would feel, knowing that the main US land-based ICBM, (the Minuteman III), is nearing 40 years old now, while Russia is preparing to field one worlds more intelligent, that the Minuteman.
86 posted on 11/02/2005 7:26:33 PM PST by Rca2000 ( "What? No gravy? (POW!!) "Next time, remember the gravy!!!"(From "Chow Hound",1951.))
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To: GeronL
Russia has tanks that are better than the M1, and are rebuilding/modernizing their Air and naval fleets.
87 posted on 11/03/2005 12:42:06 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90
but are their tanks better than JSOW?

It ain't likely to be a tank on a tank battle.

88 posted on 11/03/2005 10:36:49 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: GeronL

Tac Nukes work too!


89 posted on 11/03/2005 11:06:35 PM PST by Thunder90
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To: Thunder90

Tac Nukes would be a good name for a rock band


90 posted on 11/03/2005 11:18:35 PM PST by GeronL (Leftism is the INSANE Cult of the Artificial)
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To: American in Israel
The radioactive clouds of cobalt would overwhelm Russia's ability to respond for a few hundred thousand years.

IIRC, the radioactive cobalt has a half life of about 5 years. Still, that'd be long enough to make you want to move to a different neighborhood.

91 posted on 12/27/2005 3:40:53 PM PST by Toddsterpatriot (The Federal Reserve did not kill JFK. Greenspan was not on the grassy knoll.)
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To: Texas_Jarhead
Hey what kind of mobile launchers do we have? Also, do we have any rail launched missiles anymore

The rail and mobile missile systems were in the developmental stage but we never deployed the system. The MX program was to had a rail and mobile system but the idea was scrapped.
92 posted on 06/24/2006 8:01:44 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker

Seemed like a good idea at the time... probably saved us billions by going the silo route.

The MX system was to be built all over the Southwest United States. It would consist of a number of large circular (or close-looped) railroad tracks. All along the railroad tracks are missile sites, most of which are either fake sites or empty underground “silos,” and only a few of which contain missiles (intercontinental ballistic missiles, aimed at targets in the Soviet Union). A train keeps moving the missiles from site to site in a manner such that the Russians don’t know which sites contain missiles. The system was often referred to as “the racetrack system.”


93 posted on 06/24/2006 8:11:17 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: operation clinton cleanup

I seemed pictures and diagrams of it.It would have been interesting to see in operation.


94 posted on 06/24/2006 10:32:22 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: American in Israel

You mean Cobalt-Thorium G?
Thank you Dr. Stangelove!


95 posted on 06/24/2006 10:38:43 PM PDT by ffusco (Maecilius Fuscus,Governor of Longovicium , Manchester, England. 238-244 AD)
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To: American in Israel

If you want to do some real damage explode one ton on antimatter. The result would be a 40,000 megaton explosion.


96 posted on 06/24/2006 10:47:20 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: garbageseeker
Theoretically
97 posted on 06/24/2006 10:48:45 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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To: American in Israel
Simple answer, add one pound of cobalt to each American warhead and a proximity sensor trigger.

The United Kingdom reputedly conducted a nuclear experiment involving cobalt as a radioactive tracer in 1957, at the Tadje site, Maralinga range, Australia, but it was announced to be a failure.
98 posted on 06/24/2006 10:56:58 PM PDT by garbageseeker (Gentleman, you can't fight in here, this is the War Room - Dr. Strangelove)
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