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To: milwguy
Religion is no longer supported, as in a true Muslim society, through conformity to a host of external social customs and observances; rather it is more a question of inward belief. Hence Mr. Roy's comparison of modern Islamism to the Protestant Reformation, which similarly turned religion inward and stripped it of its external rituals and social supports.

Interesting comparison. But Baptists and Lutherans bring toaster ovens and salad tongs to weddings -- not bombs.

Faith turned inward is no danger if it is based upon the Truth -- real Christianity is all about the heart, and the outward rituals and traditions should only serve to reinforce inner truths.

I see no reason that the internalization of the teachings of Islam should precipitate violence unless these teachings themselves are violent.

9 posted on 11/02/2005 10:05:37 AM PST by Chanticleer (A free society is a place where it's safe to be unpopular. -- Adlai Stevenson)
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To: Chanticleer
I thought FF danced around the real issue. At best Islamic societies, especially the Arab type, are very violent and dysfunctional. Only via external forces, such as a paranoid dictator, like Saddam, will these societies not be total chaos. Look at the Palis, maybe it is just the tribal nature of these societies, not sure.

Hence when these people are put into an essentially "free" society, where you can make your own way, they are unable to deal with it. They fall into despair, cannot compete and ultimately lash out because no one is telling them what to do or what not to do.

A bit like your 6 year old. ;-)

Not sure how we make these folks grow-up and start taking some responsibility for themselves. France's approach, more handouts and socialism, is sure to fail and backfire big time!

FWIIW, schu

10 posted on 11/02/2005 4:39:35 PM PST by schu
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