Posted on 11/02/2005 10:09:04 AM PST by Eaglewatcher
socialist plan to make everybody sign up for their government basic income guaranty, aka, prebate.
It's so obvious that you are wrong and don't know what you're talking about. Signing up for the probate is completely voluntary. No person is made/forced to sign up.
Good point. The "Fair" Tax has plenty of Barbara Streisand in it already.
I always was told I was lucky, funny, it didn't feel that way when I was going to college with a baby and a wife and living on a shoestring. Every quarter, after I had managed to pass the courses of the previous quarter, I would look at the curriculum, dream up some way of making a living without a college education, close my eyes and pretend I wasn't doing what I was about to do, and sign up for three more courses.
It would have been so easy to take a job selling tires at the local auto shop. I didn't. I signed up for those course as if a horse was leading me to water. I knew that if I signed up I would see it through. I did. But I had a job, a baby and a strange thing called youth. Somehow I plodded my way through an accounting degree and Bingo! Got a great job right out of school.
lol. Good one. Are you happy with your subservient existence or are you so mad at it that you insist that the rest of us live like you do? What I mean is, do you have an answer to the fair tax that would take the power away from the politicians and give it back to the people? Or are you just against the FT because it would cut into your ever so secure existence.
My pleasure. I just happened to have one of those rare days when I wasn't swamped. Heck, I was even motivated to actually TYPE OUT that book excerpt right then ("cut and paste," indeed!) because my OCR program sucks. (I typed out all the pages linked on my Price Controls page some time ago, so I've actually been known to do that.)
"Nor does our endorsement call for reduced federal spending. The tax reform plan we endorse is revenue neutral, collecting as much federal tax revenue as the current income tax code, including payroll withholding taxes."
Barbara Streisand.
Excellent. I love stories like that.
The sad truth is that no American living today has ever experienced FREEDOM and, as a result, a high percentage are frightend to death at the prospect of it.
Clearly, you know your "Barbara Streisand" when you see it (and participate fully in it yourself).
Perhaps you might also learn how to spell it ... it is B-A-R-B-R-A - you maroon!! The old Squirrel ignorance strikes again!!
From: Dale Jorgenson [mailto:djorgenson@harvard.edu]A simple e-mail from an obscure citizen does what a Congressman and a radio host profiting from a book and thousands of lemming Fairtaxers wouldn't do...
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2005 10:28 AM
To: Rob xxx
Re: Fair Tax- Is your 1995-6 Testimony being misrepresented by Boortz/Linder book?August 24
Dear Rob,
A more reasonable interpretation of my 1996 testimony is that workers would keep that after-tax pay; producers' prices would fall, but retail prices would be increased by the national retail sales tax. Any gains by workers and investors would be the result of increase economic efficiency.
[He then went on to recommend his book called LIFTING THE BURDEN, about another tax reform plan he calls Efficient Taxation]
Best,
DaleI wanted to be perfectly clear what he was saying, so I asked him to clarify his email:
At 06:41 PM 8/24/2005 -0400, you wrote:
Dr. Jorgenson,Excuse me for my lack of understanding of your answer, when you say "workers would keep that after-tax pay" are you saying that if they are making $1000 a week now, and paying $200 payroll+income taxes now, that under the FairTax you were assuming that workers would get paid $800 and keep all of that? Or are you saying that you meant they would make $1000 under the FairTax?
Regards,
Rob xxx Dr Jorgenson responded:August 24
Dear Rob,
I am saying that the worker would continue to receive the after-tax amount of $800. Prices received by producers would decline to cover the cost of after-tax wages to workers and after-tax dividends and interest to investors. However, taxes paid at the retail level would include the Fair Tax.
Best,
Dale
The book and the years of lying about 20%+ price reductions AND 100% paychecks while using Jorgenson's name for the source is nothing less than fraud....
Thanks for a most pleasant reply. I don't recall seeing so much bitterness in quite a while. Too bad there was no logic behind it either. Why do you even bother?
Takes one to know one, I guess.
You make up lies and then scream "FairTax lies". You're the fraud!!
He won't last long around here.
If you paid any taxes, you'd have an interest in reducing the tax bite. Of course, if you evade taxes now you know that the nrst will make you pay.
...quote out of context to misrepresent.
You do that quite well.
Speak for yourself.
The Fair Tax spammers have made it all too familiar.
If you paid any taxes, you'd have an interest in reducing the tax bite.
"Nor does our endorsement call for reduced federal spending. The tax reform plan we endorse is revenue neutral, collecting as much federal tax revenue as the current income tax code, including payroll withholding taxes."
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