Skip to comments.Rioting In French Suburbs 'Well Organized'
Posted on 11/03/2005 12:21:25 PM PST by areafiftyone
French Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy said Thursday that the riots in several Paris suburbs over the previous night were "not spontaneous" but rather "well organized."
"What we saw in the department of Seine-Saint-Denis overnight was not spontaneous, it was perfectly organized. We are looking into by whom and how," Sarkozy told French news channel i-tele.
The interior minister also said the government would not allow "troublemakers, a bunch of hoodlums, think they can do whatever they want" in the country.
A force of 1,000 police were assigned late Thursday to Seine-Saint-Denis, following the previous night of violence which affected about half of the 40 towns in the department, mostly communities of immigrants from Africa, officials said.
Someone on another thread put forward the notion that the rioters are not Islamic militants, but simply unemployed and underemployed kids raising a ruckus for heck of it.
It's a simple question of formal property ownership. In the West, property registration is well organized. In third world countries the poor also own quite a bit, they are not generally poor, but property registration is nearly non-existent, so they can't use their property as bank collateral.
Probably -- and if so it's a typically stupid move by the salamikazes.
As long as the French were pussy-footing around to keep the Muslim population happy (and therefore working against our interests elsewhere in the world), the French were among their best allies.
But if this really is well-organized, the salamikazes will discover what too many around FR seem to forget: the French are perfectly capable of responding ruthlessly when they feel threatened. And this is shaping up as a real threat.
The french are infidel, that is all that matters. Nothing else about them is even under consideration by these animals. We too are infidel
Villepin wants "to tie up the dialog" Suburbs: Villepin wants "to tie up the dialog" Dominique of Villepin and Nicolas Sarkozy multiplied Thursday the meetings on the violence of the suburbs, meeting local elected official and associations. The Prime Minister assured Thursday evening to want "to tie up a dialog to find adapted solutions", all while putting forward the "restoration of the public order".
Alot of people have been making fun of the French Army on FR, with the surrendering and the cheese, all very funny. But you have hit the nail on the head - push the French far enough and they will explode. I for one hope they do - it might go a long way toward dispelling the myth of a country scraed to fight for what's right.
The French are revolting.
pain grillé de lait
I will second that, bet the nutso's have something to do with this.
Ouijad! I'm still laughing.
Wow..look how hot that van is.
I'd almost give anything to hear the conversation between Bush and the French leaders right now. Choice!
It just goes to show that capitulating to the Islamofascists like France has done, does not spare you.
Cheney has already held down the #2 post, and Rice needs to get elected to some office before running for the #1 slot, which she can have in 2012 (guessing that Cheney will opt for but a single term).
They'd best get to some serious unleashin' ... and quick.
The 4th Richte. The world needs that like a hole in the head.
Anyone care to take a stab as to when France will "sound off like they got a pair" and deal with these maggots?
Those French trucks burn faster than they run.
Muzzies? And a lot of these people aren't from the middle east, they are from North Africa and they are not all religious fundamentalists
These riots are like to the Rodney King riots in LA.
Flyer gets the credit. Good job Flyer. Humor is one of the great things about this place...
Why don't their friends the Germans come over and help. It's not like they DON'T know the way to Paris. They could find it in their sleep.
More catch and release, I see.
Shall we give them longer than the "two weeks" it took to surrender to the Germans?
The French have nothing to fight for!! Right...Wrong... it's all relative.
The French government pursued the "feed the crocodile" path and now they find themselves caught up in it themselves. Unless the French can convince these "terrorists" to find another enemy, Caliphate looms!!!
Oh, I have not doubt that most of the rioters are unemployed or underemployed teenagers and early twenty somethings. Many of them are probably doing it just for fun or because they saw their friends and family doing it. Many of them are doing it because they believe the truly bullsh** they are being fed. The same thing happens in Northern Ireland.
However, that doesn't mean that Islamic militants aren't there, pulling their strings and organizing everything.
Maybe they should call the Israeli's for help.
They better start restricting immigration and begin the mass deportations or this will be a regular event in France and the rest of Europe. Of course, they probably won't, but they should. It's a wakeup call and France will probably hit the snooze bar.
I'm surprised to hear that the French can "explode". And I am waiting to see just what that looks like. Any historical references would help.
I think the people are throwing off the yoke of liberalism.
Uh-oh, now you've gone and done it. The hoodlums are not gonna like that yogi. Now they're REALLy going to get mad.
I'm in agreement. It'll be bloody and largely unreported, and I'll find myself in the rare position of rooting for the French.
Dans un village noir de charbon
Dans les ch'minées et les corons
Tout p' tit il battait ses copains
Il était fier de ses deux poings
Presqu' autant qu' son père le mineur
Qui disait: " Ça f' ra un boxeur "
Le jour de son premier combat
Fallait un nom, l' en avait pas
Comme la mode était à l' anglais
Il s' appela " Battling Joe "
C' était un peu démesuré
Pour un gosse aux épaules étroites
Mais qui avait une méchante droite
Do you have references to France "unleashing the hounds"?
Look at French colonial history, especially in Algeria. You'll find that the French can be amazingly brutal when they set their minds to it.
It is hard to not have some schadenfreude over all this after the way they carried on about how we mis-managed Katrina.
great site..post those two pics of France and Baghdad..lol! I would, but have not ever posted pics before. That is too funny!! LOL
Look up Algeria some time. They were brutal.
The French accomplished their moral capitulation decades ago and as a national entity, have long been regarded as a disgrace...it would be expecting nearly the impossible for them draw a line in the sand now.
Hey, who is the French guy in cuffs in the third pic from the top?
Seriously though, keep the pics coming fanfan. I'm sending them to people who need to see them.
And don't forget that France was the first modern totalitarian state.
11,000 SOLDIERS BY MAJOR DON FICHTHORN
Eleven thousand soldiers
lay beneath the dirt and stone,
all buried on a distant land
so far away from home.
For just a strip of dismal beach
they paid a hero's price,
to save a foreign nation
they all made the sacrifice.
And now the shores of Normandy
are lined with blocks of white:
Americans who didn't turn
from someone else's plight.
Eleven thousand reasons
for the French to take our side,
but in the moment of our need,
they chose to run and hide.
Chirac said every war means loss,
perhaps for France that's true,
for they've lost every battle
since the days of Waterloo.
Without a soldier worth a damn
to be found within the region,
the French became the only land
to need a Foreign Legion.
You French all say we're arrogant.
Well hell, we've earned the right--
We saved your sorry nation
when you lacked the guts to fight.
But now you've made a big mistake,
and one that you'll regret;
you took sides with our enemies,
and that we won't forget.
It wasn't just our citizens
you spit on when you turned,
but every one of yours
who fell the day the towers burned.
You spit upon our soldiers,
on our pilots and Marines,
and now you'll get a little sense
of just what payback means.
So keep your Paris fashions
and your wine and your champagne,
and find some other market
that will buy your aeroplanes.
And try to find somebody else
to wear your French cologne,
for you're about to find out
what it means to stand alone.
You see, you need us far more
than we ever needed you.
America has better friends
who know how to be true.
I'd rather stand with warriors
who have the will and might,
than huddle in the dark
with those whose only flag is white.
I'll take the Brits, the Aussies,
the Israelis and the rest,
for when it comes to valor
we have seen that they're the best.
We'll count on one another
as we face a moment dire,
while you sit on the sideline
with a sign, "friendship for hire."
We'll win this war without you
and we'll total up the cost,
and take it from your foreign aid,
and then you'll feel the loss.
And when your nation starts to fall,
well Frenchie, you can spare us,
just call the Germans for a hand,
they know the way to Paris.
Don Fichthorn, Major USMC (Retired)
The descendants of those Algerians are the problem.
Algeria was over 40 years ago.
Media calls it a riot, but you're right, insurrection is a better description. After seven nights, this is obviously a campaign, more fitting with insurrection than riot.
A wild or turbulent disturbance created by a large number of people.
The act or an instance of open revolt against civil authority or a constituted government.