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Fuel's paradise? Power source that turns physics on its head
The Guardian ^ | Friday November 4, 2005 | Alok Jha, science correspondent

Posted on 11/05/2005 8:12:38 AM PST by nsmart

· Scientist says device disproves quantum theory · Opponents claim idea is result of wrong maths

It seems too good to be true: a new source of near-limitless power that costs virtually nothing, uses tiny amounts of water as its fuel and produces next to no waste. If that does not sound radical enough, how about this: the principle behind the source turns modern physics on its head.

Randell Mills, a Harvard University medic who also studied electrical engineering at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, claims to have built a prototype power source that generates up to 1,000 times more heat than conventional fuel. Independent scientists claim to have verified the experiments and Dr Mills says that his company, Blacklight Power, has tens of millions of dollars in investment lined up to bring the idea to market. And he claims to be just months away from unveiling his creation.

The problem is that according to the rules of quantum mechanics, the physics that governs the behaviour of atoms, the idea is theoretically impossible. "Physicists are quite conservative. It's not easy to convince them to change a theory that is accepted for 50 to 60 years. I don't think [Mills's] theory should be supported," said Jan Naudts, a theoretical physicist at the University of Antwerp.

What has much of the physics world up in arms is Dr Mills's claim that he has produced a new form of hydrogen, the simplest of all the atoms, with just a single proton circled by one electron. In his "hydrino", the electron sits a little closer to the proton than normal, and the formation of the new atoms from traditional hydrogen releases huge amounts of energy.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: crackpot; dontholdyourbreath; energy; huckster; hydrino; hydrogen; hydrogenenergy; newhydrogen; perpetualmotion; quantum; scam
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To: nsmart
It would certainly be a nice thing to happen -- but it already did: Nuclear Fission.

This smacks of BS -- when chemists and medics start dabbling in quantum physics, hold on to your wallet!

21 posted on 11/05/2005 8:36:54 AM PST by expatpat
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To: nsmart

this just in...the Earth is still flat.


22 posted on 11/05/2005 8:39:29 AM PST by Jalapeno
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To: nsmart
BLACKLIGHT POWER v. ROGAN
23 posted on 11/05/2005 8:41:40 AM PST by Mojave
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To: nsmart

Evolutionists have the same attitude toward their theories, in both cases neither know a whole lot to begin with, Evolutionist dig up dead animals and make wild claims about living ones, Physicists thow atoms and subatomic particles into one another trying to find something uniform in they're behavior.

Doing so is the brave adventurous side of scince.

Drawing premature conclusions is childish, sticking to them and refuting new evidence anti-scientific.


24 posted on 11/05/2005 8:45:34 AM PST by x5452
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To: nsmart

I'm making the statement pretty much entirely based on the nonsense I see reported.

If they do have scientists / engineers around, they are hiring idiots.


25 posted on 11/05/2005 8:45:46 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: nsmart
Does anyone remember cold fusion?
26 posted on 11/05/2005 8:45:53 AM PST by TheGeezer
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
In fact, if he hadn't thrown his balls off the Leaning Tower of Pisa, we might still be arguing the point.

Hey I know Galileo made great sacrifices to advance science - but this one - just WOW!!

27 posted on 11/05/2005 8:48:54 AM PST by frithguild (The CIA launched a covert operation against the President when it sent Wilson to Niger)
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To: Eagles Talon IV
Oh yeah. The best part would be watching the futures price of crude drop to about $3.00 bbl.

It wouldn't. Some people are very focused on oil=energy. Of course we use oil for energy but we also use it in so many other ways that even if oil was not used for energy it would not drop to $3.00 a barrel.

Food is packaged in oil, windows are covered in it, it is sprayed on hair, CD's are made of it, computers are made of it, dishes are made of it. If we never used another drop for energy it would still be an oil fueled world.

29 posted on 11/05/2005 8:53:33 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not all problems can be solved with a sledge hammer. Sometimes nitroglycerin is required. Or a Nuke)
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To: Eagles Talon IV

Jeez with a handfull of those and one of those 800 mpg carurettors the oil companies bought up, a guy could drive all year on a tankful....(LOL!)


30 posted on 11/05/2005 8:54:32 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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To: nsmart

No biggie. Am enjoying reading the comments on both threads. :-)


31 posted on 11/05/2005 8:54:54 AM PST by RadioAstronomer (Senior member of Darwin Central)
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To: bobbdobbs
Mills has been around for several years now,...

Since 1989, if I'm not mistaken.

32 posted on 11/05/2005 8:57:26 AM PST by Bob
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To: Mojave

That is an interesting law suit, but in ENGLISH -- what does it mean? Do they get to keep their patent? Is the legaleze all about quashing an alternative energy source? waht?


33 posted on 11/05/2005 9:03:12 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Eagles Talon IV

We would still need the oil for plastics, right? What % of oil is actually used for plastics?

Although another process called thermal depolemerization could turn the used plastics back into oil rather than fill our land fills or become medical waste. I know there is a plant in Carthage Missouri turning turkey offal into oil.


35 posted on 11/05/2005 9:06:27 AM PST by nsmart
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To: bobbdobbs

Oh my gawd.. so investors will run like crazy, right? Why would this article be coming out now?


36 posted on 11/05/2005 9:07:35 AM PST by nsmart
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To: Eagles Talon IV

"Still waiting for that pill that turns a gas tank full of water to gasoline."

This is nothing new. These claims have been out in the wild for many years.
I knew an undertaker in Mississippi that was all excited over some guy he had met that had a way to run an engine with nothing but water.
He claimed to have seen a demonstration and was ready to jump in head first. This was about 10 years ago.


38 posted on 11/05/2005 9:13:51 AM PST by AlexW (Reporting from Bratislava)
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To: nsmart

I liked the earlier comment that this scientist is probably from Lagos, Nigeria


39 posted on 11/05/2005 9:23:27 AM PST by Mount Athos
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To: nsmart
No more scientists on staff? Why is that? Do you know?

They don't need 'em. Journalism consists of paraphrasing press releases, so the hard work's already been done.

40 posted on 11/05/2005 9:33:31 AM PST by Grut
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