Posted on 11/06/2005 9:49:36 AM PST by rock58seg
I think so. It gives us an unfiltered look at what somewhere is being thought. I may not like all of my friends points of view. But he doesn't say these things to yank my chain.
He grew up in a certain atmosphere, and felt he could no longer find that ambiance here. so he went where he thinks it exists. One may not be able to go home again, but they can go where it might seem similar.
For me it is easier, South Central Texas is actually in a time warp. Same ideas, same people, as I grew up with, just more of them.
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Great Post!!!
I thought Prince Charles thought Bush was too harsh on the Muslims? So now they think he's too soft. Geeze...
Here's some homework while I am gone. Find the words to The Kingston Trio's song, The Merry Minuet.
I certainly don't blame anyone from an American city tired of the skin games and crime for leaving. Liberals will wiggle the arguments around in circles trying to blame Americans who never owned slaves in a crass attempt to transfer guilt. There's no reason to stay stuck in liberal guilt games. Or in crime-ridden cities. Some will leave France for the similar reasons. And, of course, some already have.
Based on how important this war is; we better not even think of exiting before we win the peace. A loss in Iraq would be worse than Vietnam for the U.S., and everyone, including the antiwar left, knows that this is the case. (That's why the leftists support the "freedom fighters"). Therefore, someone stating that we're going to lose and therefore need to accept Iraqi war refugees ala the Vietnamese boat people is really rooting for the humiliation of America.
Actually, having lived in some of the places from which Catholics had been displaced, I can tell you that they didn't get the support that the yuppies got. They were considered Neanderthal grunts by the press and some even ended up in jail for protecting their property and their families. The others eventually left.
The yuppies came in later, when many of the old-timers (both black and white) had left the neighborhood or died and there were many vacant properties. Actually, the first group that came in to these neighborhoods were artists and others looking for cheap space in which they could do whatever they wanted to do. When the place was then gentrified, the yuppies began to move in,with the full support of the press and the city government, which is something the Catholic ethnics never had.
My brother lived in Alphabetland with his artist friends for years, carrying a gun in a brown paper bag everywhere he went. Now one bedroom walkups in his neighborhood are renting for thousands of dollars a month.
Bingo! You sir, have figured it out.
Hard to say who has more leftists.......the State Department or the CIA, but both are chock full of 'em.
They're rioting in Africa
They're starving in Spain
There's hurricanes in Florida
And Texas needs rain
The whole world is festering with unhappy souls
The French hate the Germans
The Germans hate the Poles
Italians hate Jugoslavs
South Africans hate the Dutch
And I don't like anybody very much!
But, we can be tranquil,
Thankful and proud
For man is endowed with
A mushroom shaped cloud
And we know for certain
That some lucky day
Someone will set the spark off
And we will all be blown away.
They're starving in Africa
There's strife in Iran
Whatever nature doesn't do to us
Will be done by our fellow man.
This should be sung as a happy ditty, and about the only thing that has changed in the fifty odd years since it was written is, there's less starvation in spain.
Very true. Its a good thing, btw, that their kids eventually became educated and successful (see my parents). I think that the political and social changes that swept postwar urban America happened so fast that many blue collar Catholics couldn't understand what was going on. Having supported Tammany Hall (which collapsed after the O'Dwyer administration) and not being sophisticated politically, they were unable to organize and express their frustrations in the new sociopolitical climate. The fact that the press would go to places like Canarsie or East New York and specifically look for Archie Bunker clones to interview didn't help either.
Ironically, as you pointed out, the same situation has happenned to "people of color" in more recent times. I've seen black communities in South Florida bulldozed over the past few years in favor of condos. The black folks in liberal Palm Beach County, or Miami-Dade for that matter, lack the political organization to oppose such changes, meaning they will be the first to be displaced.
Pastor Martin Niemoller had something relevant to say about that...
Your glee is dangerously short-sighted.
Excellent point. It was an entirely different political world for them.
As I said it's too important for us to lose and every smart person knows it. Therefore, anyone who dares to equate Iraq with Vietnam is sectrely rooting for us to lose. Or perhaps is too "intellectually challenged" to see Iraq's importance to the U.S. (Which considering this Euroweenie's self-proclaimed love for Eurofacists isn't too much a stretch).
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