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Gideons visit local schools; ACLU uneasy
Lynchburg News & Advance ^ | 11/5/05 | Amy Coute

Posted on 11/06/2005 1:20:19 PM PST by wagglebee

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To: Seizure
As a matter of fact I have an obligation to God to share with everyone the fact that the message contained in the Bible does matter.

No, you do not. What you have is an obligation to live your life morally and to the best of your ability. It is not your obligation to cram your beliefs down someone else's throat.

41 posted on 11/06/2005 5:20:55 PM PST by ShadowDancer (I think I may have the Asian Bird Fru. I mean Flu. (Damn, it's starting already))
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To: wagglebee

The Anti-Christian Lunatics United are at it again.


42 posted on 11/06/2005 5:38:47 PM PST by johna61
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To: H. Paul Pressler IV

During Ramadan, entire curricula are encouraged around the study of Islam these days. People even gather to 'pray' or dress in Muslim garb.

I once saw some of the curriculum passed out. Amazing. Endorsed by public education, when school boards frown on all things relating to the Lord Jesus Christ.

At least Classic movies plays Ben Hur.


43 posted on 11/06/2005 6:18:12 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: Seizure

You can pray for me any day, pal. Any day of the week you want.

Thanks.


44 posted on 11/06/2005 6:22:30 PM PST by combat_boots (Dug in and not budging an inch. NOT to be schiavoed, greered, or felosed as a patient)
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To: ShadowDancer

"It is not your obligation to cram your beliefs down someone else's throat."

There is a distinct difference between "cramming" and sharing. I force nothing on anyone. It is each individual's choice whether to accept God's gift of salvation or remain as they are. They will not be judged by me. Do you share your beliefs with those around you? Do those people listen to you or tell you that you do not have the right to say anything to them? Again, my obligation is to God. So, how is it that you came to your belief in God and His Word?


45 posted on 11/06/2005 6:35:43 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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To: combat_boots

"You can pray for me any day..."

I will be happy to lift up any requests. I have one, though.
I ask that your pray for ShadowMancer. She is in need of guidance and love.


46 posted on 11/06/2005 6:45:45 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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To: Seizure

A correction on the prayer request. The screen name is "ShadowDancer". I apologize for the typo.


47 posted on 11/06/2005 6:47:18 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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To: ShadowDancer

I'm with you.


48 posted on 11/07/2005 8:19:53 AM PST by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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You miss my point. I do not have children and it is irrelevant. What you or I think is bad law is not necessarily unconstitutional.

There is nothing in the federal Constitution to prevent prayer or religious classes. If the parents through their school board wish to do so, it is within their legitimate power. That is the way it was done through the late 1940s, until men in black assumed extra-constitutional powers.

49 posted on 11/07/2005 10:50:23 AM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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'...until men in black assumed extra-constitutional powers."

The three branches of government act in concert, either by the use of Presidential Executive Orders, Supreme Court Decisions, and unconstitutional legislation (which was in play prior to the 1940's). When an Executive Order is deployed or a Supreme Court ruling is enacted, the Legislative Branch can imply that it had no support for such things, thereby escaping any responsibility.


50 posted on 11/07/2005 12:49:19 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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To: Seizure
If I understand you properly, are you saying that elected legislators try to pass hard/controversial decisions off to the unelected judiciary? If so, I agree.
51 posted on 11/07/2005 1:01:38 PM PST by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions)
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To: ShadowDancer

"As a Christian, I believe what I read in it..."

"Nope, I would do what I'm doing now. Sending my kids to a parochial school. It matters to me..."

"Why would you seriously teach that (Noah's Ark) as fact to a child?"

ShadowDancer, a parochial school being a religious school typically teaches about the historical fact of Noah's Ark and the Great Flood. Out of sheer curiosity, if the religious school to which you send your children teaches that fact, did you excuse them from that lesson?

I also read that you acknowledge God's delivery of the great flood to creation. How is it that God can create and deliver a flood of that magnitude (as well as create the heavens, earth, plant, animal and marine life, and man in seven days) and not put animals in a boat?

The logic is muddled, please clarify.


52 posted on 11/07/2005 1:51:06 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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To: Jacquerie
That is precisely what I am saying. The same applies to the Presidential Executive Order. A president is not allowed to create legislation. He can only use veto power to send what he deems substandard or pervasive legislation back to Congress to be refined. Remember Clinton's crony who said, "Stroke of the pen, law of the land. Cool." That is what an EO does. It, too, bypasses Congress. An EO would be best referred to as imperial powers.

There are many things that pass under the radar because the finer points are not understood by the population. I am in no way saying our fellow citizens are too thick. Many of us are too distracted to keep up with these matters.

The concept of checks and balances is in print only. It is no longer carried out.
53 posted on 11/07/2005 7:19:23 PM PST by Seizure (More medication, please...)
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