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Archaeologists unveil ancient church in Israel
MSNBC ^ | 5 Nov 05 | AP

Posted on 11/06/2005 5:54:15 PM PST by gobucks

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To: Whitewasher

Isn't it strange that the symbols of the zodiac seems to accompany the dominant religions of the times? The christian age 0-2000 A.D. is connected to pisces, the jewish people sacrified goats (aries) thousands of years ago, the culture in greece was a bull-cult (taurus) at the time the jews fled egypt. In a book by Graham Hancock (dubious fellow, I know) he outlined a theory where the Sfinx in Giza actually was a lion from the beginning, and that the human head was made later. Based on measurements of the grade of erosion on the Sfinx he calulated the statue to have been built in the age of Leo, so that every summer solstice in the age of Leo the Sfinxs' head pointed directly towards the star constellation Leo. I saw a program once about the jewish escape from Egypt, where the makers put out the theory that the cloud in the sky the jews used for direction day and night in fact could have been a pillar of smoke and lava from the volcano eruption that destroyed so many islands in the mediteranian (Santorini etc). The eruption could also explane the parting of the sea as told in the Bible. The bull cult in the mediteranian was wiped out by this event. Maybe a religion has to comply to the zodiac to be succesfull? But I don't know what it means that we now are in the age of aquarius.


41 posted on 11/07/2005 3:21:55 AM PST by Kurt_Hectic (Trust only what you see, not what you hear)
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To: VoiceOfBruck

cool discovery ping


42 posted on 11/07/2005 7:30:47 AM PST by Zechariah_8_13 (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point.)
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To: Zechariah_8_13
Thanks.

Razilo, who is serving a two-year sentence for traffic violations, ...

Evidently they take traffic infractions pretty seriously over there!

43 posted on 11/07/2005 11:01:08 AM PST by VoiceOfBruck (But what does chicken taste like?)
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To: Charles Henrickson; Alamo-Girl

Very, very cool translation; thanks.

AG, I'm sure you have heard of this find by now, but I didn't know if the words in the mosiac you had seen translated ... so this post by C.H. is the one it seems to pay some attention to.

By the way, ABC NEWS had a segment on this tonight - they garbled up what the words meant it seemed to me, but the word JESUS was actually uttered during an ABC news cast....


44 posted on 11/07/2005 4:46:17 PM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: gobucks
ABC NEWS had a segment on this tonight - they garbled up what the words meant it seemed to me. . . .

I heard it, too. It was a rather loose paraphrase, even leaving out the key point: the attribution of divinity to Jesus Christ as "God." The translation I have provided above is exactly accurate.

45 posted on 11/07/2005 4:54:07 PM PST by Charles Henrickson (I teach Greek.)
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To: gobucks

bump


46 posted on 11/07/2005 4:59:07 PM PST by VOA
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To: Charles Henrickson

Thanks for the clarification...


47 posted on 11/07/2005 5:00:52 PM PST by gobucks (Blissful Marriage: A result of a worldly husband's transformation into the Word's wife.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Lovely pics. Thanks for posting!


48 posted on 11/07/2005 8:07:57 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

ping for your enjoyment.


49 posted on 11/07/2005 8:08:45 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: gobucks

Thank you so much for the ping to the translation! And I'm thrilled that ABC News actually said Jesus on broadcast.


50 posted on 11/07/2005 8:25:00 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Ciexyz

Interesting; thanks for the ping.


51 posted on 11/08/2005 3:03:25 AM PST by rightwingintelligentsia
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To: Charles Henrickson

Not to be greedy or anything, but any chance for translations on some of the other lettering?


52 posted on 11/08/2005 7:07:18 AM PST by Western Phil
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To: Western Phil; ODC-GIRL; ALWAYSWELDING; fso301; gobucks; BlackVeil; YCTHouston
any chance for translations on some of the other lettering?

That's more difficult, because in the photos those words are smaller, less distinct, incomplete, and even sideways or upside-down! Let's start with what can be seen of the "upside-down" inscription:


The long word that makes up the top line is easy enough to read (transliterated below into English characters--I hope the long "E" character comes out):

MNĒMONEUSATE

which is a plural imperative, "REMEMBER"

What follows then is *I think* a series of four names, all feminine, all with the genitive case endings (since that verb takes the genitive). So the whole thing reads:

MNĒMONEUSATE
PRIMILLĒS KAI KYRI-
AKĒS KAI DOROTHEĒS
ETI DE KAI CHRĒSTĒS

Remember Primilla and Kyriaka and Dorothea and still also Chresta

So apparently it is some kind of commemoration of those four women.

53 posted on 11/08/2005 9:01:31 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Ph.D. student in Biblical Studies)
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To: Western Phil; ODC-GIRL; ALWAYSWELDING; fso301; gobucks; BlackVeil; YCTHouston
The sideways one is really hard to make out:




About the only word that is clearly and completely decipherable from these photos is the first word, GAIANOS, which is the Latin name, "Gaianus." But from additional information in the news articles I've seen, it appears that a Roman officer named Gaianus paid for the mosaics with his own money.

54 posted on 11/08/2005 9:21:00 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Ph.D. student in Biblical Studies)
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To: BlackVeil; fso301; Ciexyz; Whitewasher; Tempest
Here's a nice photo of the fish mosaic I've just come across, in which the colors really come out:


55 posted on 11/08/2005 9:24:09 AM PST by Charles Henrickson (Lutheran pastor and Ph.D. student in Biblical Studies)
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To: Charles Henrickson
Wonderful! Thank you for bringing these additional pictures and the text to my attention!!
56 posted on 11/08/2005 9:25:41 AM PST by Whitewasher (Would u like America to be a goat nation in the millennium to come? Keep pushing the "Roadmap" bull!)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Wonderful photos. This will certainly be a site for future pilgrimmages.


57 posted on 11/08/2005 7:56:17 PM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Charles Henrickson

Beautiful stuff, and thanks for keeping them coming.


58 posted on 11/08/2005 10:22:17 PM PST by Tempest (I'm a Christian. Before I am a conservative.)
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