Paris Burning: How Empires End

Human Events (online) ^ | Nov. 7/05 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[bkepley]

There is a difference I think. 1) The Latin immigrants are not in Jihad mode and 2) In America how much you assimilate is up to you; it's not that way in Europe.

[wotan]

Interior Minister Nicholas Sarkozy, a candidate to succeed President Chirac, is said to have infuriated and inflamed the rioters.

The French reaction will be slow until idiots like Chirac are out of the way, but when it finally comes, I hope it will be devastating. As France goes, so goes the West, I fear.

Have we been hollowed out by our insane (il)liberal elites to the point that we've lost the will to live or has pressure so built up against them that a powerful rejection will begin, fueled by real patriotism, not Bush-league patriotism.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

Pat Buchanan jumped the shark at the convention of 1992 where he contributed so directly to the Clinton election that one suspects he was actually in the pay of the sink emperor. He has been unworthy of serious attention ever since.

[Appalled but Not Surprised]

Okay, this just proves that Islamic nazis, like Hitlerian nazis with their maps of German India, have stupid dreams.

[mo]

Welcome to FR, WP. You'll find that on FR, the "ad hominem" attack is a herald of intellectual weakness, or no argument at all. It also is the hallmark of a DU troll....

[mohresearcher]

Only Pat Buchanan can tell it like it is. President Bush should make Pat our Secretary of Homeland Security.

Wake up America!

[Beth528]

Time is short for many European countries. How these Muslim uprising are dealt with will tell the tale. If the troublemakers are thrown out of the country or in prison, there is hope. If the governments scramble to accommodate Islam at the expense of their respective cultures, the war will be lost. Instead of the Nazi salute, Europe’s salute will be bowing to Mecca. Is there much difference between the two?

[Texas Jack]

This is my post from a previous thread:
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This is exactly what multiculturalism is all about. It is an attempt to stop the assimilation of immigrants into the host country's culture. In the case of the United States, it's to keep new immigrants from adopting the free enterprise, Judeo-Christian value system.

In Texas, more specifically, the Dallas Independent School District, teaches the children of illegal aliens in Spanish. What do they teach them? They teach them the history of Mexico, and that they are Mexicans. "How do I know this?" you ask. It was on the local news a couple of weeks ago.

**** I know that these people are predominantly Catholic. However, I contend that even as Catholics, once they identify primarily with their cultural group (read tribe), they will be easily controlled and minipulated by the left.****

We'll have to fight this battle some day.
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Interestingly enough, the barbarians wanted to be a part of the Roman experience. They didn't want to destroy Rome. They were powerful enough to defeat the Romans and take over the key government positions but culturally, they were incapable of sustaining the Roman experience.

In time, Rome looked just like the barbarian's home land.

If you want to see what the United States is going to look like in 50 years, look at the areas of Mexico and South America where the illegal aliens are migrating from.

[normy]

Exactly! Hispanics are generally Christian and are not looking for a hand out. I know many Hispanics who barely speak English. Many show up to barbecues dressed nicely in Cowboy boots, pearl snap shirts and jeans, they bring their own beer and their children run and play with the white kids even though they barely understand each other. They don't do this because they are trying to assimilate, its because its who they are. We are both peoples from mixed races who speak European languages, whos cultures were formed by rugged ancestors who tamed wild lands. We have lived on the same lands for hundreds of years, sometimes fighting over border regions but generally the people have been friends.

[Khepera]

We will not be France as long as our populus is armed.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"The Romans conquered the barbarians—and the barbarians conquered Rome."

Very profound. Someone said that on talk radio just yesterday. Savage? I think so.

Savage said something else that really bugged me. I have to respectfully disagree with him. Savage believes that Mexican Nationals are not as dangerous as Islamics. While true AT THE MOMENT, I think that there are dangers ALMOST as severe as Islam. Mexicans believe we stole land from their ancestors. [They forget that their ancestors stole land from some of MY ancestors, the American Indians, who constantly stole land from each other. But regardless...]

A bitter land dispute is not assimilation. It leads to local turf battles. It is, indeed, potentially dangerous. We saw a glimpse of it with the 'LA, Mexico' billboard. Perhaps the Mexican community rejected it then, after Arnold put some fear in them.

But when you have foreign nationals who happen to have US citizenship running the mayor's office, the sheriff's office, etc., then they might feel a lot more bold to run off all the gringos and make way for their friends with suddenly-cheapened real estate. That's why some of us keep mentioning, "Balkanization".

And that ties in with the Paris Riots. We could be looking into a magic mirror of our own country, in the future.

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"We will not be France as long as our populus is armed."

For decades, the quality of citizens' weapons has been falling behind. Criminals have access to much better weapons. Unfortunately, it would shock most Americans to even consider allowing people to own the kind of guns needed to have a truly well-armed citizens' militia. There was even an effort by the left to ban bullet proof vests from citizens. Ironically, the Iraqi homes have better guns than most US homes. We can trust them more than we trust ourselves?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

"Interestingly enough, the barbarians wanted to be a part of the Roman experience. They didn't want to destroy Rome. They were powerful enough to defeat the Romans and take over the key government positions but culturally, they were incapable of sustaining the Roman experience."

Well said. I don't want to see mirror images of the corrupt Mexican beauracracies pop up in counties of the US. It's almost as if the righteous Mexicans believe it's evil to have money or power. It's the wolves we have to look out for, not the sheep.

[LRoggy]

I am married to a Hispanic immigrant. Living in South Florida I have seen a good deal of how the Latin community has assimilated.

While the first generation does not always fully assimilate (i.e.-Spanish as the first language in many South Florida businesses), one thing I have noticed is that the second generation, those born and raised here, do fully assimilate. English is their first language, they likely go to college (many more of them pay their own way and work through than most Anglo children I've seen), intermarry with whites and blacks, root for the local sports teams, etc. I am not worried as much down here as maybe I would be in California, but I can only talk about what I know.

[festus]

France is not an empire.........

[Rapscallion]

Of course. We have a parallel with illegal Mexicans allowed to take the jobs nobody wants for wages no one else would accept. That is what France and much of Europe did with immigration - cheap labor. Now those same immigrants have become unemployed and concentrated in population centers.

America needs to look closely at what we are doing and not doing with an eye on the long term.

[printhead]

I heard on the radio news last night that Chirac is pledging 35 bil to rebuild the ghettoes.

[Beth528]

I have never heard that before..He can afford it though since he got some bucks from the oil for food program.p>

[SuziQ]

Is Buchanan accurate about this also happening in the USA, but with immigrants from Central and South America, who are not integrating into US society?

They may be Hispanic, but they are still 'European', and Christian, NOT a completely different belief system.

[Beth528]