[PatrickHenry]

This article neatly ties the madness of the Dover trial together with the madness in Kansas.

Link, from the article above, to the Kansas School Board, and predictions of how they're expected to vote on re-defining science to include creationism (and probably also voodoo): Kansas School Board.

[PatrickHenry]

EvolutionPing

A pro-evolution science list with over 310 names. See the list's explanation, then FReepmail to be added or dropped. Check out The List-O-Links. Special links to assist beginners: But it's "just a theory" and How to argue against a scientific theory.

[js1138]

It still looks like Kansas

[Non-Sequitur]

“I think having students hear criticisms of any theory is a great idea,”

I can hardly wait to hear all there alternatives to physics, astronomy, flight, gravity and all the other scientific theories out there. Airplanes fly because angels lift them? The sun does, in fact, revolve around the earth as related in Joshua? Items fall to the ground because the earth sucks? The possibilities are endless and should go a long way towards injecting a level of humor back into science classes.

[anthraciterabbit]

I can understand the ACLU (Anti-American Communist Libertine Union) backing evolutionism. What I CAN'T understand is anybody who'd call himself a republican or a conservative believing in such a thing.

[From many - one.]

I wonder if Kansas may be a lost cause?

Mostly pretty rural and hard to get the word out about what's really going on.

[ml1954]

If Kansas redefines science, and uses that to 'teach the controversy', will they be required to teach all the 'controversies'? Or can they legally just pick one 'controversy'?

Imagine if this change brings some other fringe groups out of the woodwork to file suits in Kansas to get 'their side' of some alleged science 'controversy' taught alongside whatever in science classes.

I can't think of an example, but there must be some groups out there with some wacko theories and the means to bring a law suit.

[festus]

That opens the door, he said, for astrology to be taught in public school classrooms.

Well say what you will about astrology it aint any worse than putting condoms on cucumbers and cucumbers where the .... well never mind.

[Nextrush]

How about an Evolution weekend with all your classic favorites from The Turtles, The Beatles, The Monkees, The Troggs, The Zombies, The Animals, Blue Oyster Cult and more.

[WildHorseCrash]

Michael Behe, a Lehigh University scientist, wrote “Darwin’s Black Box” — a touchstone text of the intelligent design movement. He testified in Pennsylvania, and before the Kansas Board of Education when it held hearings on the science standards.

“I think having students hear criticisms of any theory is a great idea,” Behe said. “I think in one respect, it’ll mean it’s permissible to question evolution. For odd historical reasons, questioning evolution has been put off-limits. If Kansas can do it, it can be done elsewhere.”

What a moron this Behe is. It is totally permissible to question evolution, but you have to do it with science. And that's where these knuckleheads like Behe fly off the tracks. I don't understand how someone can be so (dumb? brainwashed?) as to expect that the scientific community should renounce the pursuit of science in order to accommodate someone's religion. It's astounding.

[connectthedots]

But Gunn (ACLU) noted that the vast majority of scientists believed in evolution as a proven explanation for the origins of life. The “handful” who don’t, he said, have resorted to making their case through politics instead of through traditional scientific methods.

Evolution explains the 'origins of life'?

Someone needs to tell this guy that evolution has nothing to do with the origins of life.

[RightWhale]

Hoagland will be on Coast tonight to address ID. He might have an original take on the issue if he holds true to form.

[The Ghost of FReepers Past]

Voodoo? You've exposed yourself there.

[MEGoody]

“What’s going on in Kansas,” said Kenneth Miller, a Brown University biologist, “is much more radical and much more dangerous to science education” than the contested decision in Dover, Pa., to mandate the teaching of “intelligent design” in public school science classes.

No sir, don't want anyone questioning evolution. Nope. The sky might fall. The world might end. People might begin to think for themselves.

[Aquinasfan]

Just spell the name right. No matter the outcome, all of this publicity represents a major victory for the ID movement.