Posted on 11/08/2005 11:15:37 AM PST by radar101
I'd change it to:
An immigration enforcement bill that would allow force the president to send military personnel to the border...
It'd be easier and less expensive in the long run to build a fence that Hunter is proposing. They could put that up in no time if they want. The military could help in the short term though...
At least it is better than the McCainneddy Shamnesty. McCain wants to gut interior enforcement by transferring it from ICE to the Department of Labor. The Department of Labor has no current law enforcement capability so you can imagine how effective they would be.
"....opposition from those who want a more comprehensive approach to the problem that includes a temporary guest-worker program."
Bravo Sierra!
Section 1324a states: "Any person who knowingly hires/harbors/transports any illegal alien is guilty of a felony punishable by 10 years jail + $2000 fine per illegal alien + forfeiture of the vehicle or property used to commit the crime".
Already did. Prollem is the catch word "knowingly".
If we implement a scannable SS card with embedded digital pics and bio info that can be on the spot confirmed with a state or national database, employers would suddenly lose the prime excuse used to evade prosecutions of hiring illegal aliens.
I know some would reject it as a national ID card - that's okay, but we need to start somewhere and by both building a wall and securing identification documents would eliminate about half of the illegal aliens to begin with as well as aiding "undocumented pharmaceuticals" imports from our southern seive.
I've been informed drug abuse costs America some $240 billion a year and some 75% of the supply comes from the southern border. By walling off Mexico, it is conceivable to reduce illegal drug imports from there by as much as 3/4 - probably more with more aggressive means coupled with the barrier. That's an annual reduction of as much as $135-150 billion in cost savings from DRUGS alone.
Now, I realize we're playing with numbers and the actual results might not prove so optimistic, but it's inconceivable why any administration won't first place a more secure barrier on our southern border.
That's a great idea. We have thousands we are very eager to deport but the cesspits that spawned them refuse to receive deportees.
The US carries out similar deportations with most countries in the world (Laos, Vietnam and Cuba are among the remaining exceptions who refuse to accept deportees from the US). The Cambodian cases have been controversial in part because many came to the US as refugee children, do not speak fluent Khmer and are unprepared for Cambodian life. In a July 28 Boston Globe article, former ambassador Wiedemann said that Cambodia agreed to take them back only after the State Department threatened to withhold visas from Cambodians seeking to enter the US. The deportations have led to protests in Cambodian-American communities across the country, some of which stir up Khmer Rouge-era fears and exaggerated claims of human rights violation http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:CrWqZB8nY48J:www.ffrd.org/washington/aug2002.htm+cuba+vietnam++deportees&hl=ens
Immigrants Face Deportation for Crimes
By Joe Mullin, December 1, 2004 11:49 AM
Every three months, Andrew Thi prays he will not to be exiled to a country he's never known.
Two years have passed, and his luck has held. Every time he goes to the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services office in downtown San Francisco—and he must go, every three months—he fears being held in detention. Along with about 1,300 Cambodians nationwide, he may soon be deported to Cambodia because of his criminal past.
"It could happen tomorrow," says Thi. "It could happen five years from now."
On a well-worn sheet of paper he pulls from a thick file in his backpack, he has dozens of dates and signatures, each line marking a meeting with the immigration officer who is charged with tracking his whereabouts. He used to check in with CIS once a month. Now, he is trusted enough to make the appointments every third month.
Thi faces deportation because he has a criminal past. In 1995, he robbed a computer store and was sent to prison. In 1996, the federal government expanded the number of offenses for which non-citizen offenders could be deported. These rules were made retroactive, and Thi's conviction put him on the deportable list.
But Cambodia was one of only four countries worldwide -- the others being Laos, Vietnam, and Cuba -- that refused to accept criminal deportees. Although they were spared deportation, Cambodian refugees convicted in the United States were left in legal limbo, and sometimes remained in immigration detention for years.
That's what Thi faced when he was paroled in November1999, after serving four years for armed robbery. Immigration authorities (then the Immigration and Naturalization Service, or INS) immediately detained him. On Jan. 14, 2000, he received a Final Order of Removal, officially slating him for deportation. That wasn't feasible -- but the INS could detain Thi as long as it liked, even though he'd served his criminal sentence.
"With prison, you have a date," explains Thi. "The INS is different. You have no date to get out. Once you're in, you're in their zone."
He didn't languish long. In April 2000, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco ruled that if the government had no way to return deportees, it could not detain them indefinitely.
Following that ruling, Thi was released -- into the hands of waiting U.S. Marshals. He was charged with federal gun possession offenses dating from January 1995. Thi was given probation for the gun offenses, and in September 2000, he was let go.
In 2002, the Cambodian government finally agreed to accept deportees after heavy pressure from the U.S. government. Now Cambodians who thought they had atoned for their offenses face an additional punishment: deportation to the land they fled years ago.
Two things make the situation different for Cambodians from other immigrant groups. First, many of them are being expelled for crimes that are several years old. Second, because they arrived in the United States as refugees, they say they are estranged from the land to which they're being sent. Some younger deportees don't speak any Cambodian.
Thi does speak Cambodian, but he has no ties to the country and doesn't know a soul there. He arrived in the United States in 1981, a six-year-old refugee from the Khmer Rouge genocide. Apart from the time he spent in prison, he's lived in the East Bay since his arrival.
As a non-citizen parolee, he has to check in with state and federal parole officers, in addition to the INS.
"I got too many claws on me," Thi says. "Thank God, I got a good family." For now, Thi is living in an Oakland halfway house, and doing community service work with Oakland Cambodians. His mother and siblings live in Hayward.
Thi started running with a rough crowd during adolescence, growing up in East Oakland's Fruitvale district. From shoplifting, he graduated to car theft and finally robbery.
Today, Thi says he's a changed man. A year ago, he became a Christian with encouragement from his girlfriend Sophoeum and he says that God has kept him on the right track. Last July, he was sent back to the Oakland halfway house and assigned to do 400 hours of community service after testing positive for heroin, which he insists is a false positive test.
Cambodian social service workers say Thi's story is far from unique. Cambodian children have had a difficult time adapting to American life. In Oakland, a higher proportion of Cambodians drop out of school than any other ethnic group, according to Lucy Dul, who works for Cambodian Community Development, Inc. Dul says 60 percent of the Cambodian families she works with live below the poverty line.
Program manager Porthira Chhim is working to air a public service announcement on local Cambodian television explaining Thi's story, and encouraging viewers to get active fighting what they see as unfair deportations. Chhim says it won't be an easy battle—the Cambodian community is conservative, and takes a dim view of former criminals.
"I'm sure it will spark some debate," said Chhim. "Some people are going to call me and say, ‘This guy is just a punk,' I'm sure."
For his part, Thi says he's devastated by the idea that he might have to leave the country.
"The time -- I deserve that," he says. "I did it. But all my family is here. It's so unpredictable. If I think about it too much, I go crazy. So I leave it up to God."
More smoke and mirrors to coddle we, the sheeple...We have laws to take care of the illegals as well as their employers...George is in charge...He should be fired for dereliction of duty...
Protect our borders and coastlines from all foreign invaders!
Support our Minutemen Patriots!
Be Ever Vigilant ~ Bump!
Do all illegals earn a living ligitmately? Are there some who earn a living via crime?
LOL!!!!!
Maybe they could give it to the BATF...
So they can do some meaningful work for a change?
I think the BATF limits itself to killing CITIZENS.
Requires a tamper proof national ID card and a national database of US citizens. The 86 immigration bill (our current immigration law) has sever punishments for hiring illegals, but unfortunately convicting employers is hard to do.
It is an insurgency you know.. Most of them have no intention of becoming an AMERICAN, except for financial gain, you know like a democrat..
They are PROUD of being Mexican with a government of drug dealers.. from Vincente Fox down to the Policia.. and a history of corrupt governments.. They know nothing else.. they EXPECT government to be corrupt.. as do MOST immigrants..
I on the other hand.. don't expect corruption and would vote fully to HANG any corrupt politician as an example.. And God willing some will be.. Oh! yes I'm angry.. Its a little late for Bush to go DUUUH I didn't know.. and I'm not sure about Alito or Roberts either.. Zell Miller would be a better president and hes a freepin democrat.. Bush is ripe and is starting to stink..
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