Posted on 11/10/2005 1:22:46 PM PST by qam1
I WAS LIVID...So, I and everyone else has to pay for her medication so she can have buy things for her grandkids? What is wrong with this Country?
It is an honor to know you.
I told my grandparents (who raised me) to spend it all. I don't need it.
On the individual level, that's true. If you check you'll see I've written a lot about that. On a political level, however, the relevance of the case to the husband's supporters was that their own ability to do the same to their aged family members that they'd rather not support. And who has controlled the government and set the policy that allowed Terri Schiavo to be starved? Boomers, both Dem AND GOP. Boomers have had overwhelming political influence because of the relative size of that generation to the ones prior and following, and at some point they will be accountable for the choices that they made. It's too bad for the ones among them who were trying to do the right thing, but I would guess few of them would be left helpless when Social Security and Medicare are abolished.
You think I like paying SS? I will get back far less than I have ever paid in.
BTW, slick use of ad-hominem.
I am very well educated. Thanks for noticing.
Our years worked are nearly comparable. Started in 78 doing my max with a work permit (after all, I was only 16) and then had my own business I operated producing equipment for the semiconductor industry. Hours per week I've got you beat. 70 *solid* since the early 80s. I think most on this thread want to end Social Security so what's your freakin' beef, pal?
I have a new team member on my software development team. He is two months younger than my middle son (22). A very sharp CS grad. It will take a couple years of mentoring to make him ready to take on the level of responsibilities that the "old farts" in the group have been doing for the last 30 years. He is certainly up to the task. My 22 year old son just took his real estate broker's license exam yesterday. He was enroute to the county recorder's office this afternoon to file his fictitious business license forms in preparing for launching his own real estate office. As a real estate salesman he closed over 100 properties in the last year and ran the whole office operation.
I plan to be working for another 20 years. That will put me at age 69. By that time I should have another 2 or 3 houses fully paid off and be in a position to live comfortably on the cash flow from my rentals.
I'm afraid your co-generationists have already spent that AND your childrens' future as well. They're working on the second generation. There's nowhere to recoup it from, except from those not yet born. And since the boomers wielded the political power that put the folks in office to make it so, it's your peers that own the blame.
I want to know how folks are blaming boomers for everything from the 60's to the next 20 years? Thats one hell of a generation.
V/R,
CSG
I have sympathy for many in my generation and maybe yours who are squeezed by adult children returning home (with grandchildren, quite often) and at the same time trying to care for aging parents.
Social Security was a Ponzi scheme from the time it was instituted. People who had NEVER paid a penny into it, were given SS the minute it was passed into being. And everyone who worked, from the time SS came into being, paid into it. So just what, exactly, are you saying? Something like : TOUGH TOENAILS, YOU PAID INTO IT, BUT I REFUSE TO ?
If that is so, how are you going to keep from paying into it' as it all stands now? If it's legal, you should tell us all how to do so.
Ain't we? LOL!
No. I paid in good faith that I would get my money back (forced BTW).
You just said you weren't robbed, but you did pay because you were forced to. You appear not to realize that "paying under duress" is the definition of "being robbed". As for getting your money back, I fully support that. But you won't find the stolen money at my house! I have the perfect alibi; namely, that I wasn't born when you were robbed. Go reclaim your stolen money from the ones that stole it. Don't rob me and pretend that's a "repayment".
I put 20% of my pay away for the future. I don't rely one bit on SS or any other Gov dole.
Oh. You gave me the distinct impression you were planning to collect SS checks, with full knowledge that it consists of funds forcibly taken from me.
Bet I pay more in taxes than you make.
I believe I'll take that bet. Unless a radio astronomer makes well over a quarter million a year, my income exceeds your tax bill.
Comrade? I stood the front line fighting communism
Apparently, you lost. You returned to the land of the free thinking that my private property was rightfully yours, and calling me a whiner when I object. If you tried that angle back in 1780, you'd have been tarred, feathered and ridden out of town on a rail.
Yeah, I imagine the incident crosses your mind regularly.
I do get it: I'm telling you it's a load of crap. I was born and raised poor, and paid my own way through college, including a bachelor's at Brown and a PhD at Syracuse.
They had to work by the sweat of there brow!
You seem to be thoroughly convinced of Marx's value theory of labor--that only sweat equals genuine labor. That's also nonsense.
It's good that you've provided for your own retirement responsibly. So, do you support Social Security, Medicare, and the prescription-drug benefit (in current or "reformed" version)? Or would you rather them abolished?
If you support any of those things then you support stealing from the generations that follow. If you don't, then good! Glad to have you on the side of just and correct behavior. But don't delude yourself into thinking that theft from following generations is not overwhelmingly supported by your generation.
Of course all generalizations have exceptions, and I'm sure the folks here who have objected to what I have said are mostly among the exceptions. But the reality is that 80%+ of baby boomers have no problem with using their politial power to have the government seize by force the property of post-boomers in order to fund easy boomer retirements.
I would add that they aborted over 40 million of our generation as well, which would be around to help share society's burdens if the Baby Boomer's weren't so selfish.
Do you mind sharing your age?
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