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Jarhead Cheapens Vets' Heroism
HUMAN EVENTS ^ | Nov 11, 2005 | Oliver North

Posted on 11/11/2005 12:14:48 PM PST by neverdem

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To: Buffettfan
...Hollywood does NOT make pro-military movies because they are anti-military...

Remember those black and white WWII movies...They might not have been realalistic in terms of the "feel of war" (which I cannot attest to), but at least they were pro-militiary and pro-America.

Hollywood has sh1t for brains and they disregard most of "real America." Some enterprizing filmmaker will someday make a pro-militiary movie about this struggle, and it will be enormously successfull. (Just like they said "passion of the christ" would do poorly and were completely wrong, they're making a the same mistake here).

Most people just don't watch movies anymore, or rarely. You can tell all the movies stink, because "critics" always talk about them now in terms of "dollars drawn," and never in terms of substance.

21 posted on 11/11/2005 1:17:29 PM PST by right-wingin_It
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To: kellynla; TomasUSMC; BnBlFlag; jonascord; sean327; SF Republican; oh8eleven; sergeantdave; ...

Ping to a bad review of "Jarhead"...

Semper Fi


22 posted on 11/11/2005 1:22:45 PM PST by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: neverdem

I will never see it because the trailer reeks with hip-hop, rap crap, so the movie must contain the same garbage.


23 posted on 11/11/2005 1:30:21 PM PST by lormand (Close the border...the US/California border.)
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To: CodeToad

You need a caveat to your question. With the exception of Bob Hope and those of the entertainment industry that work with the U.S.O. what has hollywierd done for the troops.

I had the priviledge of seeing Bob Hope and Raquel at Danang (freedom hill) during the Christmas tour of 1967. He was telling some of the same jokes he told the troops in WWII with some minor variations to the then current war. Semper Fi.


24 posted on 11/11/2005 1:34:37 PM PST by stumpy
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To: neverdem

Green Beret was probably the last movie made by Hollywood that praised the military. Havent seen a decent hero since John Wayne died. Willis is a nice guy but the roles he plays are sometimes a lot over the top.

The one I constantly laugh at is when the planes couldnt get into Dulles.Terrorists had shut down communications and the runway. LOL the funny thing is Richmond, National, Andrews, the Pax River Naval station, BWI are all within 50 miles which is nothing when you are in a plane.


25 posted on 11/11/2005 1:36:29 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: stumpy
I had the priviledge of seeing Bob Hope and Raquel at Danang (freedom hill) during the Christmas tour of 1967. He was telling some of the same jokes he told the troops in WWII with some minor variations to the then current war. Semper Fi.

I always thought it was a blessing that Bob Hope passed on between Dessert Shield/Storm and OEF/OIF. He would have been too frail to go, and it would have broken his heart that he could not go. Veterans of 4 wars have a special place in their hearts for Bob.

And of course each contingent has their own favorites among the ladies who went with him. I'm kinda partial to Ann Margret myself.

26 posted on 11/11/2005 1:44:51 PM PST by El Gato
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To: neverdem
I saw this movie. It was every bit as bad as Mr. North claims. Terrible. Do not see it. It can only satisfy the academic idiots of our society.

Lando

27 posted on 11/11/2005 1:44:58 PM PST by Lando Lincoln (The general public doesn't pay attention enough........to care enough.)
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To: neverdem
Money from this movie will probably not go to the GOP, but that is a given, right? Went and saw the movie. It was great. Sure there was a little BS in it, but its not a documentary.

I recommend it.

If you can't stand cussing, sex, killing, dead burnt bodies, don't go. There is some of that. Yet it is full of funny and surprising and patriotic scenes.

And a lot of things in the movie will seem unbelievable to those who haven't served, but they are true.

URRRAAH
28 posted on 11/11/2005 1:48:24 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: El Gato

I too have fond admiration for Ms. Margaret. But the first American woman I ever saw in a "mini" skirt was Raquel. Gotta admit it set the bar to high for most of the women I saw after I got back.


29 posted on 11/11/2005 1:50:25 PM PST by stumpy
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To: neverdem

See this article makes me wonder what his take on the movie "Annapolis" will be. Since I have a feeling it will be based on Jim Webbs novel "A Sense of Honor." However if hollywood does what they did with jarhead with annapolis there will be a lot of un happy grads. Among whom is Ollie North.


30 posted on 11/11/2005 1:59:55 PM PST by Little_shoe ("For Sailor MEN in Battle fair since fighting days of old have earned the right.to the blue and gold)
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To: stumpy

True. I forgot that Hope had entertained the troops in Veitnam.


31 posted on 11/11/2005 2:05:23 PM PST by CodeToad
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To: t2buckeye; Borges

Thank you both....I will rent that this weekend.


32 posted on 11/11/2005 2:17:58 PM PST by Feiny (Great minds think alike & fools seldom differ.)
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To: Little_shoe

Sounds like Annapolis is a boxing movie set at the academy....


33 posted on 11/11/2005 2:22:28 PM PST by Feiny (Great minds think alike & fools seldom differ.)
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To: TomasUSMC

You made the only positive comment about "Jarhead", IIRC.

How does it compare to "Platoon"? BTW, I believe that "Platoon" was the first realistic movie about grunts in Vietnam.


34 posted on 11/11/2005 2:36:37 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: sgtbono2002

Well, of recent war films:

1) We Were Soliders - Best film about the Vietnam War, IMHO. Mel Gibson. Wonderful, underrated film.

2) Gettysburg - Admittedly about the Civil War, but still a great movie, one of my favorites.


35 posted on 11/11/2005 2:52:27 PM PST by furquhart (Cheney-Bush '08)
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To: furquhart

I agree that We Were Soldiers is a great film...it doesn't focus on the politics at all really...just the soldiers and their families. Plus..the soundtrack is wonderful. It has the song, "Mansions of the Lord" sung at Ronald Reagan's funeral. Very moving!


36 posted on 11/11/2005 3:22:54 PM PST by t2buckeye
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37 posted on 11/11/2005 3:47:15 PM PST by Sister_T (Kenneth Blackwell for Governor of Ohio!)
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To: river rat

Thanks for the ping.

Didn't see the movie and won't. Did see some of the trailers on TV.

I could tell that it would be anti-USMC. I was there, we didn't talk like that. We didn't talk jive. We were all business.

I was fortunate to serve with some of the most supremely well-educated and thoughtful men I have ever known... and they are still good friends.


38 posted on 11/11/2005 4:17:11 PM PST by 2ndreconmarine
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To: neverdem

Platoon was half about boot and half about the war. The part about boot was as close to 100 percent as I've seen - the other half I didn't think was that great.

I think Jarhead was funnier than platoon and concentrates more on the time after boot. It is also geared to the young folks that are of military sign-up age.


39 posted on 11/11/2005 4:24:53 PM PST by TomasUSMC (FIGHT LIKE WW2, FINISH LIKE WW2. FIGHT LIKE NAM, FINISH LIKE NAM.)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Our priest last Sunday said he saw it (he's a former military man) and it should be re-named Air Head not Jar Head. He said it was the worst movie he had ever seen.


40 posted on 11/11/2005 4:30:30 PM PST by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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