Court Rules Against Special Ed. Parents

AP ^ | 11/14/5 | GINA HOLLAND

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Well Amelia ,as I have stated already on this thread numerous times, I choose to believe the conservative sources which I have found and some of which I have linked to here on this very thread.

You know the ones I have referred to here and with whom I have consulted myself and worked with myself -over the NEA, a handful of teachers and some parents with a history of drugging their children (see those people may have an agenda with which I disagree).

I am sort of... well.. "conservative that way". I am sure you understand, I just really prefer to respect the research of conservative think tanks and business folks over union leaders.

[Amelia]

Do you suppose you could find some research-based articles, rather than just op-ed and opinion pieces? I'd give those much more credibility, personally.

Conservative sources are good, but I always thought that conservatives based their opinions on the evidence, and liberals based theirs on "feelings". I like evidence.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Well if you do not believe respected conservative think thanks and respected conservative public policy analysts the matter - I know there is just not much I can do for you.

I am certain that I can find plenty of the NEA members and plenty of your fellow employees whom will side with you. Hands down the majority of people employed by the public school system will say there is no fraud in funding or diagnosing children with ADD( even tho we have some of them here admitting there is).

If you feel it is wiser to believe the NEA and in the conversations you have had with less than conservative sources, who work in the field in question- over what I have shown you from conservative sources with track records of running successful business and supporting conservative ideals- that is your choice.

[Amelia]

I didn't say I didn't believe them. I said I'd like evidence of their research. You apparently don't need any evidence, and that's fine.

However, I didn't say I believed the NEA, so please don't put words in my mouth.

[Bonafide]

If you are so sure there other solutions, why don't you share them with us. On the grand scale of things, IQ's range from immeasurable to about 160. Where do you suggest we cut off education. If you believe that an IQ of 80 is waste of money, how about an IQ of 100?

That might exclude you or some of your family members or it might not, but it would certainly exclude people you know from receiving an education.

If you spend a little time in Libraries, you will find that most significant contributions to society come from people with IQ's over 130. Why bother to educate anyone with an IQ less than that?

As far as who contributes what, what have you done in your life that makes you so speical? Most of are born, go to work, pay some taxes, become a burden on society and die. Our markers will attest to our having been here for a few years and then we fade from societal memory, as if we were never here.

Is your life worth more than someone else's life? I don't think so. All life is of immeasurable value and a public education for the least of us, makes the rest of better.

[tuckrdout]

I am glad to hear you acknowledge your own weakness.

It is a beginning!

[tuckrdout]

You know, most of us here have read your "about me" page; and realise that your heart is often in the right place. But, you fail to back up your points with valid arguments.

We do not want to be cannibals! No one "dislikes" you, because we do not know you.

This poster is trying to help you. In the nicest of ways. You have a lot to offer, instead you resort to sophmoric rhetoric, which degrades any true debate--and ends up making you look silly.

Most of us are not interested in a "smack down"---which is what you seem to be most interested in.

[Diva Betsy Ross]

You are just that bright.. are you? *lol*

[Diva Betsy Ross]

Oops.. since you seem to need everything spelled out for you- that should read.. you are just NOT that bright, are you? I just didn't want you to be too confused over there all day... :]