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New Documents Reveal Saddam Hid WMD, Was Tied to Al Qaida
NewsMax ^ | Wednesday, Nov. 16, 2005 12:15 p.m. EST | Carl Limbacher

Posted on 11/16/2005 9:26:41 PM PST by TBP

Recently discovered Iraqi documents now being translated by U.S. intelligence analysts indicate that Saddam Hussein's government made extensive plans to hide Iraq's weapons of mass destruction before the U.S. invasion in March 2003 - and had deep ties to al Qaida before the 9/11 attacks.

The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.

In the magazine's Nov. 21 issue, Hayes reveals that the document cache now being examined contains "a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of [Iraqi] intelligence agencies and military units."

Though the Pentagon has so far declined to make the bombshell papers public, Hayes managed to obtain a list of titles on the reports.

Topics headlined in the still embargoed Iraqi documents include: • Chemical Agent Purchase Orders (Dec. 2001)

• Formulas and information about Iraq's Chemical Weapons Agents

• Locations of Weapons/Ammunition Storage (with map)

• Denial and Deception of WMD and Killing of POWs

• Ricin research and improvement

• Chemical Gear for Fedayeen Saddam • Memo from the [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to Hide Information from a U.N. Inspection team (1997)

• Iraq Ministry of Defense Calls for Investigation into why documents related to WMD were found by UN inspection team

• Correspondence between various Iraq organizations giving instructions to hide chemicals and equipment

• Correspondence from [Iraqi Intelligence Service] to [the Military Industrial Commission] regarding information gathered by foreign intelligence satellites on WMD (Dec. 2002) • Cleaning chemical suits and how to hide chemicals

• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] plan of what to do during UNSCOM inspections (1996)

Still other reports suggest that Iraq's ties to al Qaida were far deeper than previously known, featuring headlines like:

• Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government (Nov. 2000)

• Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity

• Possible al Qaeda Terror Members in Iraq

• Iraqi Effort to Cooperate with Saudi Opposition Groups and Individuals

• Iraqi Intel report on Kurdish Activities: Mention of Kurdish Report on al Qaeda - reference to al Qaeda presence in Salman Pak

• [Iraqi Intelligence Service] report on Taliban-Iraq Connections Claims

• Money Transfers from Iraq to Afghanistan

While the document titles sound stunning enough to turn the Iraq war debate on its head, Hayes cautions that it's hard to know for certain until the full text is available.

It's possible, he writes, "that the 'Document from Uday Hussein regarding Taliban activity' was critical of one or another Taliban policies. But it's equally possible, given Uday's known role as a go-between for the Iraqi regime and al Qaeda, that something more nefarious was afoot."

"What was discussed at the 'Secret Meeting with Taliban Group Member and Iraqi Government' in November 2000? It could be something innocuous. Maybe not. But it would be nice to know more."

Hayes also notes that an additional treasure trove of evidence on Saddam Hussein's support for al Qaida may be lost forever.

"When David Kay ran the Iraq Survey Group searching for weapons of mass destruction, he instructed his team to ignore anything not directly related to the regime's WMD efforts," he reports.

"As a consequence, documents describing the regime's training and financing of terrorists were labeled 'No Intelligence Value' and often discarded, according to two sources."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alqaedaandiraq; iraq; osama; saddam; terrorism; waronterror; wmds
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Well, just further evidence that Saddam did have weapons of mass destruction (other than the Democrats) and he was connected to Al Qaeda. But do you think that even the Administration will acknowledge this? No, becasue they have no backbone.
1 posted on 11/16/2005 9:26:43 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP

or he had a reason.


2 posted on 11/16/2005 9:28:45 PM PST by Chena (I'm not young enough to know everything.)
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To: TBP
Every time I see a thread with this type of headline, I click on with trembling fingers and bated breath.

Then I see it's from NewsMax..........

Leni

3 posted on 11/16/2005 9:28:56 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: neverdem; Tolik; Alice au Wonderland; Darksheare

if this pans out... there will be much spin in Donk circles


4 posted on 11/16/2005 9:29:33 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: TBP
The explosive evidence was discovered among "millions of pages of documents" unearthed by the Iraq Survey Group weapons search team, reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes. In the magazine's Nov. 21 issue, Hayes reveals that the document cache now being examined contains "a thick stew of reports and findings from a variety of [Iraqi] intelligence agencies and military units."

I don't see the article on their website.

5 posted on 11/16/2005 9:30:23 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: TBP

I'm not holding my breath on this stuff. Far too many can't misses slithered away into the sand during the Iraq invasion.

It's good news, and if it holds weight, all the better.


6 posted on 11/16/2005 9:30:53 PM PST by CheyennePress
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To: MinuteGal

yeah... NewsMax's credibility is only slightly less bad than those of the Alphabet News...

but IF this pans out...


7 posted on 11/16/2005 9:30:54 PM PST by King Prout (many accuse me of being overly literal... this would not be a problem if many were not under-precise)
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To: MinuteGal

This either true or not ...If it is true I want to hear it shouted from the rooftops


8 posted on 11/16/2005 9:31:22 PM PST by woofie
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To: All

WHERE THE WMDS WENT

http://michellemalkin.com/archives/003917.htm


9 posted on 11/16/2005 9:31:41 PM PST by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: TBP

You have that right. They let a prosecutor run a 2 year witch hunt over a statute that wasn't even violated. Bush is a piece of work, he falls head long into every demoncrat trap. There is a whole book out with what WMD they did find in Iraq. Yet, it is never quoted. This will not only be forgotten but will be shredded as soon as Bush finds it exists. Pubbies are all nutcases when it comes to politics.


10 posted on 11/16/2005 9:31:43 PM PST by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: TBP

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1523195/posts


11 posted on 11/16/2005 9:33:02 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TBP

I never had a doubt.


12 posted on 11/16/2005 9:33:17 PM PST by demlosers
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To: TBP

BTTT


13 posted on 11/16/2005 9:33:22 PM PST by hattend (In France, it's not just the cheese that's soft and runny.)
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To: TBP

Sounds like the end of W's Rope-a-Dope is about to begin...finally.

The Dumbocrats have whined and moaned for two years about not finding WMD and that there no links of Saddam to al Qaeda. Hoist them on the petard of Saddam's documents, I say.

I can hardly wait (he says, hoping to hell this is as good as he wants it to be)!

And then we need an accounting of who was RIGHT and who was WRONG - politicians, foreign leaders, "journalists" and bloggers, TV media, etc.


14 posted on 11/16/2005 9:33:54 PM PST by RandyRep
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To: MinuteGal

I've pretty much gotten to where I can tell the source of an article by just looking at the thread headline. I almost never miss the NewsMax ones any more.


15 posted on 11/16/2005 9:34:37 PM PST by CFC__VRWC ("Anytime a liberal squeals in outrage, an angel gets its wings!" - gidget7)
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To: TBP

While Liberal girlymen on the left have an orgasm just at the mention of WMDs, intelligent, level-headed people are asking, "Where are they?"


16 posted on 11/16/2005 9:36:04 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (It's no coincidence that the Democrat mascot is a jackass.)
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To: bnelson44

This is an excellent article and is a must read.

BTTT


17 posted on 11/16/2005 9:36:31 PM PST by Chgogal (Viva Bush, the real revolutionary. We're winning the WOT in Iraq! Goodbye Che. Hello W!)
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To: MinuteGal
I agree with you about NEWSMAX, but common sense tells me that Saddam had these weapons and he had help in hiding them, or removing them.

I still remember the reports that Saddam personally pinned medals on several Soviet Military officials shortly before we invaded and kicked Saddam's ass

18 posted on 11/16/2005 9:37:05 PM PST by MJY1288 (The main stream media has the wisdom of a new born and the vision of a still born)
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To: TBP

This kind of information will never see the light of day with the MSM.


19 posted on 11/16/2005 9:37:58 PM PST by Jess Kitting
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To: TBP

WMD's were never the real reason for the invasion. However, it was never offered as the only reason for it either.


20 posted on 11/16/2005 9:40:32 PM PST by Wiseghy (Discontent is the want of self-reliance: it is infirmity of will. – Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: TBP

Yo Hum!

I'll just insert the Pelosi botox needle into my forehead!

There, now that feels better,

Now what was that you said about WMD, Syria, and Saddam????

Sorry, I'm feeling sleepy!


21 posted on 11/16/2005 9:45:06 PM PST by aShepard
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To: Goreknowshowtocheat
There is a whole book out with what WMD they did find in Iraq. Yet, it is never quoted.

Richard Miniter's new book. In it he points out that our troops have found

1500 gallons of chemical weapons
1000 units of radioactive materials
17 chemical warheads (5X more powerful than Sarin)
177 metric tons of enriched uranium
and, of course, several Sarin shells.

Remember that Saddam had hidden centrifuge parts in the backyard of one of his ministers, planning to reassemble the centrifuge as soon as the inspectors went away.

Also remember that, as Bill Gertz of the Washington Times, perhaps the best national security reporter in America, wrote, our satellite intelligence picked up Russian trucks hauling large loads from Iraqi weapons plants to Syria.

What do you think was in those trucks? Were they moving Shoeshine Boy's furniture?

22 posted on 11/16/2005 9:53:05 PM PST by TBP
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To: MinuteGal
"Every time I see a thread with this type of headline, I click on with trembling fingers and bated breath.
Then I see it's from NewsMax.........."

Amen. Throw World Net Daily in there too.

I don't care how biased the MSM may be. If there is substance to this story, the NY Times, Washington Post or LA Times is going to break ranks and try be the first one to report it since this will be such a huge story. Then, they'll start bashing Bush all over again for his handling of the post-combat phase or question why he didn't give diplomacy another chance instead of rushing us into war.
23 posted on 11/16/2005 9:58:53 PM PST by CALawyer
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To: TBP

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25 posted on 11/16/2005 10:03:44 PM PST by Liberty Valance (T for Texas and T for Tennessee)
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To: GregW8705
Out for a troll today, eh?


26 posted on 11/16/2005 10:04:54 PM PST by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: GregW8705

Unfortunately for you, I have posted the article about the documents and a list of stuf our troops found. So where did all that come from?


27 posted on 11/16/2005 10:05:46 PM PST by TBP
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To: GregW8705
there were no WMD's no matter how much you wish there were.

Of course not...Bush, Cheney, and Rove planted them, right?

28 posted on 11/16/2005 10:07:44 PM PST by TBP
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To: TBP
Nancy Pelosi was on Neil Cavuto tonight, still touting the Dimo line that "there were no WMDs in Iraq".
29 posted on 11/16/2005 10:07:59 PM PST by El Gato
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To: GregW8705
RandallFlagg: WMDs = Cheese ^

My theory why the WMD finds weren't made public.
30 posted on 11/16/2005 10:10:15 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: GregW8705

"there were no WMD's no matter how much you wish there were."

No.. just 500 tons of uranium...
And the chemical artillery shells rigged as IED's.


31 posted on 11/16/2005 10:10:49 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: GregW8705

And don't forget the cyclosarin found.

But, no WMD's found... / sarc.


32 posted on 11/16/2005 10:11:41 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: Darksheare
Annnnnnnd he's OUTA HERE!

Kinda lame, even as trolls go.
33 posted on 11/16/2005 10:13:07 PM PST by decal (Mother Nature and Real Life are conservatives; the Progs have never figured this out.)
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To: King Prout; Tolik; Alice au Wonderland; Darksheare; bnelson44
Where Are the Pentagon Papers?

We'll see what happens.

34 posted on 11/16/2005 10:16:58 PM PST by neverdem (May you be in heaven a half hour before the devil knows that you're dead.)
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To: El Gato
Nancy Pelosi was on Neil Cavuto tonight, still touting the Dimo line that "there were no WMDs in Iraq".

Yes, and Neil sat there, drooling like an idiot.

35 posted on 11/16/2005 10:17:39 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: decal

Yuppers.
I wandered in prior to heading to bed and saw this one.
*chuckle*

Agreed, he was pretty lame.
Now I have to scrub out my skull.
;-)


36 posted on 11/16/2005 10:18:18 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: decal

He didn't have much of a posting history.


37 posted on 11/16/2005 10:20:25 PM PST by Darksheare (I'm not suspicious & I hope it's nutritious but I think this sandwich is made of mime.)
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To: MinuteGal

What's your beef with NewsMax ..??

If Steven Hayes is involved and has written a report for the Weekly Standard (11/21) - it has to be legit! Steven is a very smart guy and he wouldn't be selling anything phoney.


38 posted on 11/16/2005 10:23:56 PM PST by CyberAnt ( I believe Congressman Curt Weldon re Able Danger)
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To: TBP

thank you for this post!


39 posted on 11/16/2005 10:24:31 PM PST by MeekMom (Praise Jesus! We have so much to be thankful for!)
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To: RandyRep

Please be right


40 posted on 11/16/2005 10:28:52 PM PST by woofie
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; BobFromNJ; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; Coleus; cyborg; DKNY; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

41 posted on 11/16/2005 10:31:05 PM PST by nutmeg ("We're going to take things away from you on behalf of the common good." - Hillary Clinton 6/28/04)
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I heard Stephen Hayes on the radio, and he says that there is a paper trail 7.5 miles long, and that he has been trying to get his hands on it. As the article says, he was allowed to see the headlines, and they clearly would raise eyebrows, if not hackles.

Stephen Hayes wrote "The Connection" about the Iraq/Al Qaeda connection. Very informative.

I believe that once these documents are translated and declassified, this will be blockbuster. Or, I guess I should say, it SHOULD be blockbuster.

It never registered with me that the WHOLE WORLD could be suffering such a colossal intelligence failure at the same time, with the same subject. I believe that Saddam had WMDs and that he relocated them prior to the start of the war.
42 posted on 11/16/2005 10:32:54 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: MinuteGal
Did you see this?

WMDs Found in Iraq

See post 10 also.

43 posted on 11/16/2005 10:36:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (If you think you know what's coming next....You don't know Jack.)
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To: RandallFlagg

Interesting. It is said our greatest intelligence successes are the ones the public will never know about.


44 posted on 11/16/2005 10:39:10 PM PST by somemoreequalthanothers (All for the betterment of "the state", comrade)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers

Yep. Learned that in the military.
Need to know, and all that. I was just strategerizing (As Rush calls it).


45 posted on 11/16/2005 10:42:22 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TBP

Hopefully, Saddam's WMD activity will be introduced as evidence in his trial. A few weeks of that, and the left will have to find a different reason to trash our war effort.


46 posted on 11/16/2005 10:46:46 PM PST by Bonaparte
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To: Shelayne

OOPS, my bad. They are already declassified.

So, out with the Pentagon Papers already! Sheesh!


47 posted on 11/16/2005 10:47:07 PM PST by Shelayne
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To: Shelayne

Welcome to FR.


48 posted on 11/16/2005 10:48:52 PM PST by RandallFlagg (Roll your own cigarettes! You'll save $$$ and smoke less!(Magnetic bumper stickers-click my name)
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To: TBP
Democrats rear-ended up the ass by the truth. But no one cares.

(Denny Crane: "I Don't Want To Socialize With A Pinko Liberal Democrat Commie.Say What You Like About Republicans. We Stick To Our Convictions. Even When We Know We're Dead Wrong.")

49 posted on 11/16/2005 10:50:24 PM PST by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MinuteGal
reports the Weekly Standard's Stephen Hayes.

There is hope!

50 posted on 11/16/2005 11:07:54 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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