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A Traitor's Tirade: Rep. John Murtha Soils The Corps (by Gunny Bob Newman, Marine Corps veteran)
Gunny Bob's weekly column posted at his 850am KOA website ^ | Thrusday November 17th, 2005 | Gunny Bob Newman

Posted on 11/17/2005 10:27:58 PM PST by ajolympian2004

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To: WOSG

Pretending that we cannot afford to win a war but can afford to lose it through unilateral withdrawal is ludicrous.

(and disasterous)

Bump.


41 posted on 11/18/2005 4:41:10 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: ajolympian2004

Someone hauled out his FBI file and then twisted his arm to either make the party line statement or achieve political death.

DNC= criminal enteprise


42 posted on 11/18/2005 4:43:01 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . (FR = a lotta talk, but little action))
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To: ONETWOONE

Spent time in NKP, Da Nang and non-existant(LOL) places in Laos from Dec67-Jan 68

40th ARRS

Welcome home dude!


43 posted on 11/18/2005 4:53:02 AM PST by sargunner
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To: ONETWOONE

Make that, Dec67 - Jan69. That's better.


44 posted on 11/18/2005 4:54:42 AM PST by sargunner
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To: DoughtyOne

This guy served his nation with honor. It is too bad that today he dishonors himself, the Marine Corp and the nation.


45 posted on 11/18/2005 4:57:18 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: sargunner

If Iraq is not victory then someone tell me what victory looks like.

25 million people freed
Overthrow of evil dictator thugs (yes this includes Saddams advisors. Mr Clinton)
victory over 5th largest military in the world
free elections in record time
capture and or killing of the majority of most wanted Saddam followers
Schools and infrastructure rebuilding.
Constitution written and passed
less than 10,000 lost soldiers.
This and much more accomplished in less than 3 years


46 posted on 11/18/2005 5:03:25 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: faithincowboys
A good picture of 2 traitors.
47 posted on 11/18/2005 5:05:53 AM PST by ditto h (2/7 1st Marine Division, March 67-April 68, you know where.)
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To: stocksthatgoup

I fully expect a direct attack on US soil by Al Qaida now that the Dems and Murtha and the MSM have softened up the target, us. (USA)-


48 posted on 11/18/2005 5:06:08 AM PST by stocksthatgoup (Polls = Proof that when the MSM want your opinion it will give it to you.)
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To: ajolympian2004
Pleeeese, stop the bubble machine!!!!!!!!!!

Murtha didn't just "flip" overnight because someone has "damaging FBI files on him".....or because "he turned senile overnight". Why are folks knocking themselves out to make every excuse under the sun for him?

This Benedict Arnold has a long lefty, anti-war, anti-military history.....a freeper posted his legislative record on this board the other day. The ideology voiced in his statement yesterday didn't just happen OVERNIGHT.

The guy is an obsessed ideologue which he's kept pretty much quiet in the past. He knows EXACTLY what he's doing.

He probably didn't write his lengthy, convoluted statement all by himself. That's what researchers, lawyers and writers on congresspeoples' staffs are for. But he obviously has a radical leftist aide who can write in a Goebbel's-like manner a statement that is glib, smooth, full of eye-popping false "facts", false charges and innuendos and weighty-appearing enough to fool a lot of the sheeple.

No, let's not excuse this traitor......pin him to the wall for what he is and what he'll go to his grave being.....anti-American.

I don't care if he was Audie Murphy when he was younger, he's a traitor now.

Boy, am I ticked, fellow freepers. Murtha is only one thump of the well-organized drumbeat of defeat coming at us and our President from all sides now.....jeopardizing our freedom and security......and the lives of our troops above all.

Leni

49 posted on 11/18/2005 5:08:21 AM PST by MinuteGal
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To: ajolympian2004

Count me as another Marine who is embarrassed by this fraud. Last year he said we can't win. This year he says we have won, let's go home, but any year he is still a Democrat so party is more important than country to him.


50 posted on 11/18/2005 5:09:36 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Hey Murtha you jerk, bring the troops home and you bring the war home with them!)
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To: DoughtyOne
The war in Iraq is as much a psychological war as a kinetic war. It is being fought daily in the press, on television and radio, and here on the Internet. The intent of the enemy, Al Queda and others is to break our will. They have, unfortunately, found political allies among many in the Democratic party who see an opportunity for gaining political power by exploiting the casualties suffered in the kinetic aspects of the war.

Our military won the 1st stage when they defeated the Iraqis in the spring of 2003. We are now engaged in what we call the "three block war" wherein we are simultaneously fighting to maintain peace and stability while helping democratic minded people to establish themselves, and fighting to defeat terrorist and former regime "die hards" who still believe they can regain control if they are ruthless enough. They know that they have politically oriented allies here in the US for their psychological campaign. They will continue as long as we are there. They opened a second front just this week when they had some "detainees" complain to the press that they had been tortured by the new Iraqi government forces.

John Murtha has been defeated in the psychological war. They have made the pain of attrition so great for him that he has said he will do whatever it take to get relief, not in so many words of course, but that is the reality of his statements. Murtha, and his fellow Democrats are truly "Sunshine Soldiers" who will be there if it looks like we are winning easily but will run and hide if they are "uncomfortable".

A little while ago I heard Andrea Mitchell state that "many" in the military are against the war and that it was only supported by the "chicken-hawks" in the administration... great psyop tool but while many in the administration did not serve there is no proof that "many" military personnel in the country oppose the war. Her statement was typical MSM propaganda, put a lie and a truth together and voila! both are true.

The "Winter Soldiers" must stand together and fight for right. Do not let the bastards wear you down!
51 posted on 11/18/2005 5:09:52 AM PST by RedEyeJack
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To: ajolympian2004; yut

Ping


52 posted on 11/18/2005 5:13:37 AM PST by aculeus
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To: ajolympian2004
Jack Murtha was one of two people who voted for Charlie Rangel's Draft Bill (H.R. 163, introduced Jan 7, 2003), back in 2004. Please look at Roll Call Vote 494, held on 5 Oct 2004.

Only he and Pete Stark voted for it. The bill sponsor (Rangel) and the remainder of the co-sponsors (incl. Conyers, Jackson-Lee, etc.) did not vote for the bill they sponsored!

53 posted on 11/18/2005 5:14:37 AM PST by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: ajolympian2004

Hey Rep. Murthaf*ker:
Semper Fi = Cut and Run???


54 posted on 11/18/2005 5:31:50 AM PST by meandog (FUDU)
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To: ajolympian2004

Just another Rat who had his brains sucked out before he took the oath of office.


55 posted on 11/18/2005 5:38:44 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: ajolympian2004

And to add insult to injury..the traitor cried..like a weakling..adding to the world wide notion that Americans are weak..a paper tiger..just like screwball voinovich last summer crying on the senate floor saying he is a patriot when he wouldn't back Bolton..jeez..get a hanky you losers..


56 posted on 11/18/2005 5:42:03 AM PST by BerniesFriend
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To: Billthedrill

Sweet deal!


57 posted on 11/18/2005 6:38:05 AM PST by GunnyBob
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To: DoughtyOne

Another self-proclaimed Marine officer has weighed in in an email to me (below). He can be reached at rayboyusmc@yahoo.com.

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I listened to what Murtha said. Did you? I never heard all the crap about retreat and other right wing rhetoric that you conveniently put into your article. Why is it that you folks on the right can't just realize that other people who are just a frigging patriotic as you can believe differently.

Only and idiot or a total partisan will continue to hold onto an idea or approach when it is not working and people are dying because of its failings.

Vermin? Your use of this word alone, tells me what a right wing hate monger you must be.

I am embarassed as a careerr Marine by your comments. This war should never have been fought. It was planned stupidly by the Bush administration who ignored senior military advice. Our Marines and Soldiers are dying because this adminstration was more concerned about the "New American Empire" and oil than WMDs or Iraqi freedom and still today won't re-evaluate how we should be fighting it.

I guess you think we should have stayed in Vietnam also. Why bother if both wars are based on lies and real Americans are dying for the the greed of a few rich Republicans. When this is over and Cheney can collect his blind trust from Haliburton..... while the families of the dead Marines will grieve forever for their fallen loved ones--

You may be suprised how many Marines support Murtha.

General Smedley Butler said it best: War Is A Racket - Read the book Gunny. You might learn more about why we are in Iraq.

R. B. LtCol USMC Ret.


58 posted on 11/18/2005 7:37:38 AM PST by GunnyBob
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To: jmaroneps37
Count me as another Marine who is embarrassed by this fraud. Last year he said we can't win. This year he says we have won, let's go home, but any year he is still a Democrat so party is more important than country to him.

I was not a Marine, but I feel for you guys, and will remind you that even Jesus was betrayed by a Judas.
59 posted on 11/18/2005 8:01:36 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: GunnyBob

Gunny, I don't believe for a second he was a Marine, but more likely he was a keyboard commando.


60 posted on 11/18/2005 8:04:24 AM PST by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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