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House Debate on Murtha Proposal (OH Rep Jean Schmidt "cowards cut and run, Marines never do.")
AP ^ | 11/18/2005 6:12:20 PM | AP

Posted on 11/18/2005 5:12:51 PM PST by Former Military Chick

CAPITOL HILL (AP) -- There's been heated debate on the House floor regarding a GOP effort to force a vote on Congressman John Murtha's call for an immediate withdrawal from Iraq.

Democrats charge the effort is a cheap political stunt and a personal attack.

Instead of offering Murtha's resolution, Republicans plan to reject a similarly worded resolution offered by one of their own to show support for US troops.

Democrats say that's a "counterfeit" resolution, charging it guts Murtha's thoughtful approach to the situation.

The fiery, emotional debate climaxed when Ohio Congresswoman Jean Schmidt, who is the lowest in seniority, recounted a message a Marine colonel wanted to send to Murtha.

She said he told her that "cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

Democrats booed and shouted her down, bringing the House to a standstill.


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2french; jeanschmidt; murtha; surrender; whiteflag
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To: EGPWS

Geeze, It is a good thing I didn't go into politics....

I can't believe that Congress had to vote on whether or not to TAKE a vote on this....

So, I'f I'm following C-SPAN correctly, they just passed the vote to take a vote????

The results : ALL the dems voted to NOT take a vote, joined by a few RINOS. but enough non-rinos got up enough gumption for the vote to take a vote to pass.

Whew. If I were a congressman, my head would have exploded long ago.

Who is this Rep. Tom Lantos (D-CA)who is on now... He don't even talk 'Merican. Sounds Swiss or German. He loves Murtha.


121 posted on 11/18/2005 6:59:46 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Flora McDonald

Some dude who sounds like Count Dracula (and faintly resembles him) is speaking now. Go ahead Drac drive that stake thru a GI's heart.


122 posted on 11/18/2005 7:00:16 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Gondring

I have seen the etiquette of the Seanate, They kiss each others ass while stabbing each other in the back.


123 posted on 11/18/2005 7:00:46 PM PST by sgtbono2002
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To: Flora McDonald

That was Lantos... I thought Swiss, but yeah, he could be Transylvanian.


124 posted on 11/18/2005 7:03:57 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: TWohlford

I'm not sure for POTUS, but how about Senate once Whinovich retires?


125 posted on 11/18/2005 7:05:05 PM PST by zbigreddogz
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To: Former Military Chick
"cowards cut and run, Marines never do."

Congressman Murtha may NOT be a coward, but immediate withdrawal of the troops, especially in the middle of a victory well worth the effort, is. The marine is exactly RIGHT.

A withdrawal would mean certain defeat. WE CANNOT WITHDRAW and must finish this war to its certain victorious end.

Thank God for the Republicans and for President George Bush. Most of all, thank God for our brave troops, heroes all.

126 posted on 11/18/2005 7:05:51 PM PST by TAdams8591 (Students deserve a choice!)
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To: Flora McDonald

Weldon - R-PA is up. Praising Murtha for his dedication to the troops. Murtha is one of a kind.

Praising, Praising....waiting for the but....

There never was a but.

So much for Weldon.


127 posted on 11/18/2005 7:06:30 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt
Susan Estrich who I don't always completely despise

Try harder

128 posted on 11/18/2005 7:09:58 PM PST by No Longer Free State (No event has just one cause, no person has just one motive, no action has just the intended effect)
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To: Flora McDonald

Now Murtha is doing a folksy jokesy story. YUK YUKS from the floor.

Resolution is not what he envisioned.

He wants the draft re-instated.

He reminds me of Foghorn Cleghorn just a bit. Then again a lot of these guys do.

People are thirsting & crying for direction!!!! Oh boo hoo!


129 posted on 11/18/2005 7:11:14 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Now Murtha is basically reading his previous press releases and singing his own praises.

A re-enactment of his famous brain fart.

He claims only one persons visits Walter Reed more than he does! Well, we won't list humility as one of your virtues, sir.


130 posted on 11/18/2005 7:16:58 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Oh my...he is all over the place. Money, money, money.

Tax cuts bad, no draft bad, deficits bad.

Now the numbers of dead, wounded and battle fatigued.

Wants troops re-deployed. War can't be won militarily. ?
Must be won politically.

We are the catalyst of violence in Iraq.

We should be out of Iraq after the December election.

Ok. He's off his nut. Next?


131 posted on 11/18/2005 7:23:43 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Blurblogger

And you do! :-)


132 posted on 11/18/2005 7:26:35 PM PST by nopardons
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"Iraq can't be won militarily.
Iraq can't be won militarily, it can only be won Politically."

We must end this occupation of Iraq immediately. if we do that, the Sunnis will join in and Iraq will be at peace.

The first part is a direct quote, the second part I'm paraphrasing what Murtha just said, ending his bloviating and self aggrandisment on the House floor, to the applause of all the rest of the cut & runners.


133 posted on 11/18/2005 7:26:37 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Flora McDonald
How refreshing to see the following on Congresswoman Schmidt's website:

100% pro-life. Opposed to abortion and the policies which fail to recognize the importance of protecting all life from conception to natural death.

I can only dream about having such here in Massachusetts, even will all the supposedly "Catholic" politicians...

134 posted on 11/18/2005 7:31:02 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: LegendHasIt

This has been absolutely sickening.

What an egomaniac this man is.


135 posted on 11/18/2005 7:31:40 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

Leave it to a blowhard democrat politician to believe that only a politician can end a war.

The fact that he has become a fool who can't even learn from a war in which he fought, or indeed, the entire history of the world outweighs any honor he has earned while wearing the Marine Uniform, or being a "hawkish" Dem in Congress.

How many millions died in Southeast Asia immediately after the ignorant, the media and the leftists (but I repeat myself) forced us to cut and run from Viet Nam.


136 posted on 11/18/2005 7:35:05 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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To: Flora McDonald

I like this guy Joel Hefley! He makes sense.

Now Murtha is back saying we have made no progress.

Reading a letter from a wife of soldier at Walter Reed. Congratulating Murtha for speaking out against the war and President Bush.


137 posted on 11/18/2005 7:36:18 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Flora McDonald

Rob Simmons - vietnam vet - remembers how it hurt to be at war and have Congress dismiss their efforts and badmouth the war.

Now Murtha is reading another letter from Gold Star parents.
Body armor issue. Congress solved the problem!


138 posted on 11/18/2005 7:39:13 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: Unam Sanctam

This has been one of the worst weeks for us since our son was deployed. Hearing about Jean Schmidt's statements and then reviewing her website were a bright spot and gave me hope again.


139 posted on 11/18/2005 7:41:02 PM PST by Flora McDonald (got teufelhunden?)
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To: LegendHasIt

Good for Rep. Bob Simmons (R. CT)... He just mentioned the millions who died in SEA because we cut & ran... He must be reading my posts as I type them.

Murtha keeps reading letters from the spouses & parents of soldiers and marines.... NOT the service members themselves...; But he keeps trying to put the words of surrender in the soldiers mouths, not bereaved and worried loved-ones.... Even assuming that the letters are real, and not something he made up of whole cloth.... He puts no names to these letters of cowardice.

Murtha is beneath contempt.... But nonetheless, my contempt for him continues to grow beyond bearing.


140 posted on 11/18/2005 7:42:56 PM PST by LegendHasIt
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