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House rejects troop pullout; Dems decry vote (Rep. Ford yells repub's making uncalled for attacks)
AP ^ | November 19, 2005 | AP

Posted on 11/19/2005 12:50:54 AM PST by Former Military Chick

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To: Lancey Howard
"Their problem, their nightmare, has been that the economy is roaring - - the stock market is climbing, unemployment is virtually nonexistent, and even oil prices are plummeting (I got my gas today at $2.09!). This is the worst possible news for the Democrats."

Their problem is that success for American in any form represents political defeat to democrats, if that success is credited to republicans. They have decided to put their personal political fortunes ahead of our national welfare.

They justify their all out assault against republicans and conservatives because in their heart of hearts they truly believe that we present a much greater danger than anything else that threatens us...including Islamo-fascists committed to our destruction.

Ultimately democrats can be understood by reflecting on the typical parent-adolescent child conflict. Parents shoulder the unglamorous duty of protecting and prospering the family while rebellious adolescents bemoan their loss off freedom and unfair treatment. They want all the goodies without any of the obligations.
61 posted on 11/19/2005 6:43:30 AM PST by Awgie (truth is always stranger than fiction)
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To: Former Military Chick

Murtha is a disgrace to his office, to the Marines, to his prior service record and to America.

He should resign.


62 posted on 11/19/2005 6:52:40 AM PST by ZULU (Fear the government which fears your guns. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: Chicago_Jim
Excellent first post. My first one was nowhere near as informative. :o)

The press would rather go with headlines that the Republican controlled Congress voted themselves a raise....as if no democrats voted for it. I have not been able to find the vote.

And welcome to Free Republic

63 posted on 11/19/2005 6:57:13 AM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: Former Military Chick
Murtha, a 73-year-old Marine veteran decorated for combat service in Vietnam, issued his call for a troop withdrawal at a news conference on Thursday.

With the Dems. giving Murtha his marching orders, the only thing missing here is Edgar Bergen standing beside him. (Tammy Bruce)

64 posted on 11/19/2005 7:41:36 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: BTCM

Speaking of Imus did you hear how he talked about President Bush the other morning? I was going through the channels during the commercials and Imus was calling Bush a moron and dope etc. This coming from someone who is barely articulate and spent most of his life he says hisself drunk.


65 posted on 11/19/2005 7:42:06 AM PST by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., charged across the chamber's center aisle screaming that Republicans were making uncalled-for personal attacks.

HOO Boy.......I missed that? the dem goldenboy walking legend lost it? What wonderful theater there was last night.

66 posted on 11/19/2005 7:44:10 AM PST by tioga
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To: Former Military Chick
Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn.

The poster boy for the quota system of Affirmative Action!
67 posted on 11/19/2005 7:58:29 AM PST by leprechaun9
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To: Chicago_Jim

Terrific post - - well-written, well-thought-out, and well-posted.
Thank you for your kind response.


68 posted on 11/19/2005 8:17:16 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: wayoverontheright

Great post.
All this psycho-analyzing of the Democrats makes my head hurt.
They're like some weird alien lifeform.


69 posted on 11/19/2005 8:21:06 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Former Military Chick

Hello, AP writer and editor - it was "intended to fail" because the support wasn't there - not even if, gasp, the dims had actually voted their stated convictions - if the words "convictions" and "dims" can be used in the same sentence.

And then of course we have your usual unbiased slant of "intended to fail"?? What about the GOP intending to succeed which they did and then some. A radical and never heard concept for you, I know, but try and understand it.


70 posted on 11/19/2005 8:26:40 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: manwiththehands

"The "present" voters represent the worst of the worst of what is wrong with some of the folks in our government."

I've had this theory for some time: The only dims who run for political office are closet bureaucrats. Basically lazy, they want the cushy position, perks etc. and will do/say anything to hold onto it. Achieving any kind of positive change or generating any new ideas simply does not compute.

Many, even most, conservative pols could and have held positions in the private sector and know how to get things done. Most of the dim/lib rage at Cheney for his Halliburton post and subsequent buyout is because they know no one - except maybe a foreign power - would even consider them worth that kind of money.


71 posted on 11/19/2005 8:39:13 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: Former Military Chick

Wow 403 to 3. LOL, you've got to give those three props for outing themselves as the terrorist huggers they are. Well, okay they only agree with the terrorists much of the time.

The Republicans in the House deserve praise for outing the anti-war nimnals for what they are, loud mouthed propagandists.

I had my doubts about this, but it worked out very well.

You folks will have to forgive me for being a pesimist, when it comes to Republican moves of late. How seldem they show this type of backbone. The Democrats appear to exhibit way too much power IMO. This vote exemplifies what the Republicans should be doing A LOT more often.

Congrats Pubies. When you set your mind to it, you actually can kick liberal ass.


72 posted on 11/19/2005 9:21:28 AM PST by DoughtyOne
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To: cowboyway

Benedict Arnold was, at one time, considered a patriot. Murtha hasn't finished well.


73 posted on 11/19/2005 9:44:35 AM PST by Jemian (Message to Murtha: ONLY COWARDS CUT AND RUN.)
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To: Lancey Howard

Democrats have been calling for the withdrawal of US troops in Iraq for quite some time now. The Republicans finally woke up and offered them a chance to ACTUALLY do it.

And because of that, the Democrats cry foul.

It seems that Democratic demands are demands that they themselves do not want, when forced to choose.


74 posted on 11/19/2005 9:54:42 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Former Military Chick
Wont't see these in the MSM.

John Murtha, Jr. - Democrat - U.S. Representative from Pennsylvania. Implicated in the Abscam sting, in which FBI agents impersonating Arab businessmen offered bribes to political figures; Murtha was cited as an unindicted co-conspirator. In April 1994, Murtha urged the Clinton administration not to use military force to stop the fighting in the former Yugoslavian republics.

75 posted on 11/19/2005 9:56:53 AM PST by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: ThirstyMan

Rep. Harold Ford, D-Tenn., charged across the chamber's center aisle screaming...




What was he screaming? Allah Akbar, maybe?

:-)


76 posted on 11/19/2005 10:04:05 AM PST by gogogodzilla (Raaargh! Raaargh! Crush, Stomp!)
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To: Former Military Chick
"He asked me to send Congress a message - stay the course. He also asked me to send Congressman Murtha a message - that cowards cut and run, Marines never do,"

Message for you, sir

77 posted on 11/19/2005 10:21:41 AM PST by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: indianrightwinger

Exactly right: this was only a stunt to the Moveone Quisling fever swamps. They were cornered by their own 4 years of factless, hateful rhetoric against Bush: hate Bush, the military can't win, Iraq is not the place et al. The GOP under Hayworth, Drier, Blunt put this idea together and forced the Dems to vote their rhetoric. The MSM , their willing allies , will try to spin this but after all, as one poster above wrote rightfully, the Dems have posed some propaganda which has shifted polls, made many uninformed American voters nervous, and when you lie day after day, it has weight. I hope the GOP forces the Dems to vote on war issues concerning Islamofascism month after month. Force them to wail and whine so the American voter can see why only Lefist loons like Wexler, McKinney, Serrano, who voted for the measure , are really the real face of the Dem Party.


78 posted on 11/19/2005 10:28:13 AM PST by phillyfanatic
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To: Former Military Chick
Should be some good sound bites to be had for opponents in the next election.

Lets make a big push.

79 posted on 11/19/2005 10:44:37 AM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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To: Clara Lou
It was entertaining to see all those Democrat feathers flying. They don't take backfires well, do they?

No they don't. Behind every bunch of dims is a Wellstone memorial moment waiting to emerge.

It is why so many of us have been so frustrated with the White House and GOP lack of offense. The democrats don't play defense well.

I think a nice supplement to this vote would be a complete shake up in the White House communications, starting with a sharp and aggressive spokesman. Surely they have seen the light from this vote.(I Hope)

80 posted on 11/19/2005 10:53:47 AM PST by lawnguy (Give me some of your tots!!!)
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