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Bush without Card
townhall.com ^ | Nov 19, 2005 | bob novak

Posted on 11/19/2005 3:07:51 AM PST by paudio

WASHINGTON -- The absence by Chief of Staff Andrew Card from President Bush's Latin America and Asia trips has increased speculation about a possible reconstruction of the White House staff.

Presidential aides said Card was left behind to handle the crush of congressional business during Bush's absence. However, the chief of staff almost always accompanies the president on foreign travels.

A footnote: Al Hubbard, director of the National Economic Council, is being given a wide variety of domestic assignments beyond economics and is speculated on as Card's possible successor.

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The District of Columbia cell of the Communist Party USA has been revealed as holding a monthly luncheon in the cafeteria of the National Education Association (NEA), without the sponsorship but not with the disapproval of the huge, politically powerful schoolteachers union.

The Communist meetings were reported by Chris Peterson in the Washington City Paper edition of Nov. 11-17. A lawyer attending the September meeting bolted from the cafeteria when he learned a reporter was present.

"We had no knowledge of this," NEA spokeswoman Denise Cardinal told this column, "because the NEA does not screen the patrons of our cafeteria or listen in on conversations. It's open to the public."

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: andrewcard; communistparty; new
Hopefully Bush realizes that Card's pushing for Miers is no good for him. As for NEA, nothing new there...
1 posted on 11/19/2005 3:07:52 AM PST by paudio
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To: paudio
If Card is responsible for Miers then Card failed Bush big time. The Miers nomination split the conservative base at a critical time for Bush. I'd like to see Bush's daily numbers because I'd bet his slide in job performance hinges on the Miers nomination.
2 posted on 11/19/2005 3:19:11 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: DB

Bush's slide in the polls has to do more with skewed polls than a divided base.


3 posted on 11/19/2005 3:34:28 AM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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To: DB
The Miers nomination split the conservative base at a critical time for Bush.

I don't agree. Card may have promoted Miers off his staff to legal counsel and supported putting her on the Court according to some reports. But I don't see the lasting damage to the WH agenda over Miers. The base is now content and united with Alito.

So if Card is leaving, it's not over Miers. Even Miers has not left over Miers. Nor should she.
4 posted on 11/19/2005 3:38:59 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush; DB; Terpfen; paudio
So if Card is leaving

I thought Bush kept his Cards close to his vest.

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GWB: HBS MBA

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1070924/posts

The American Thinker February 3, 2004 | Thomas Lifson

*****

One final note on George W. Bush’s management style and his Harvard Business School background does not derive from the classroom, per se. One feature of life there is that a subculture of poker players exists. Poker is a natural fit with the inclinations, talents, and skills of many future entrepreneurs. A close reading of the odds, combined with the ability to out-psych the opposition, leads to capital accumulation in many fields, aside from the poker table.

By reputation, the President was a very avid and skillful poker player when he was an MBA student. One of the secrets of a successful poker player is to encourage your opponent to bet a lot of chips on a losing hand. This is a pattern of behavior one sees repeatedly in George W. Bush’s political career. He is not one to loudly proclaim his strengths at the beginning of a campaign. Instead, he bides his time, does not respond forcefully, at least at first, to critiques from his enemies, no matter how loud and annoying they get. If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically.

5 posted on 11/19/2005 3:42:45 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: paudio

 

 

 

REDS AT NEA

 “The District of Columbia cell of the Communist Party USA has been revealed as holding a monthly luncheon in the cafeteria of the National Education Association (NEA), without the sponsorship but not with the disapproval of the huge, politically powerful schoolteachers union.”

 The Communist meetings were reported by Chris Peterson in the Washington City Paper edition of Nov. 11-17. A lawyer (ACLU?) attending the September meeting bolted from the cafeteria when he learned a reporter was present.

Just discussing the PROGRESS of the NEA programs:

Some of these “45 goals” being achieved are:

Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press

Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for socialism and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers' associations. Put the party line in textbooks.

Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history

Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio, and TV.

Present homosexuality, degeneracy and promiscuity as "normal, natural, healthy."

Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the ground that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state."

Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old-fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.

Discredit the American Founding Fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man."

Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.

 

            Check out my HOMEPAGE


6 posted on 11/19/2005 3:43:58 AM PST by Not a 60s Hippy (They are SOCIALISTS, not Progressive, Liberal, Left Wing, Democrats, Special interest groups.)
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To: beyond the sea

" If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically."There are times when I feel the president has become the national pinata 24/7. At when point does he bury someone that is just plain wrong.Turning the other cheek in a time of war is plain scary.


7 posted on 11/19/2005 3:52:16 AM PST by magua
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To: George W. Bush

I don't think that Card's leaving (if true) has anything to do with Miers, either. He just hasn't been very effective in general, however, and perhaps everybody is beginning to acknowledge this. We shall see.


8 posted on 11/19/2005 3:56:32 AM PST by livius
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To: DB
The Miers nomination split the conservative base at a critical time for Bush

Even though I supported Miers (the president, actually), I do think the above is correct. This particular strategery backfired within the base, so in retrospect it wasn't a good political move.

The case on Alito is still out. I'm nervous about him, but gained a little more confidence over the "abortion isn't in the constitution" revelation that came out last week.

9 posted on 11/19/2005 3:57:43 AM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It!)
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To: magua
" If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically."There are times when I feel the president has become the national pinata 24/7. At when point does he bury someone that is just plain wrong.Turning the other cheek in a time of war is plain scary.

I hear you. I have no clue why he is acting so weak.

But, remember ........ he was this sly, great card player and strategist BEFORE he was "born again".

Maybe you lose a little of that ability when you make the "change".

10 posted on 11/19/2005 3:57:52 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: Terpfen
Bush's slide in the polls has to do more with skewed polls than a divided base.

Yep. Skewed polls and gas prices, which are falling BTW.

11 posted on 11/19/2005 3:58:41 AM PST by pawdoggie
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To: George W. Bush

When the right was eating its own over the Miers nomination the left saw opportunity. And so the left stepped up to the plate and started swinging. And there was deafening silence from the administration.


12 posted on 11/19/2005 4:00:09 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: pawdoggie

Bingo.

The Chevron nearby's dropped 10 cents in the last week, totaling about 40 or 50 cents over the past month or two. Not bad at all.


13 posted on 11/19/2005 4:00:27 AM PST by Terpfen (Libby should hire Phoenix Wright.)
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To: paudio

It may be a sign that Card is the person who talked to Woodward.


14 posted on 11/19/2005 4:08:47 AM PST by Always Right
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To: beyond the sea

That sounds good. And maybe it is true.

But the stakes here are far too high to being playing poker over.


15 posted on 11/19/2005 4:08:49 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: Always Right

Interesting. Maybe more than Woodward.


16 posted on 11/19/2005 4:09:59 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: paudio

If this is true, this is more good news. The Republicans are definitely showing some backbone lately, and Bush and Cheney are both sounding great. Canning Card (and hopefully McMilktoast next) would be definitely more good news.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 4:19:15 AM PST by samtheman
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To: beyond the sea

"I have no clue why he is acting so weak."Sometimes you act weak just before you unload on someone.Throwing them off,in football misdirection play.


18 posted on 11/19/2005 4:21:59 AM PST by magua
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To: paudio

Let the "cards" fall where there be. I think Card is a good guy, but sometimes it's time for a change.


19 posted on 11/19/2005 4:30:47 AM PST by ONETWOONE (onetwoone)
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To: paudio

Time for THE GREAT ONE, Mark Levin.


20 posted on 11/19/2005 4:31:01 AM PST by rod1
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To: beyond the sea
W. has often been misunderestimated. ; )

You have to wonder why the Dims, starting with Ma Richards, keep falling for it. I guess it's part of that Stuck On Stupid thing that seems to be their primary campaign strategy.
21 posted on 11/19/2005 4:35:23 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: DB
When the right was eating its own over the Miers nomination the left saw opportunity. And so the left stepped up to the plate and started swinging. And there was deafening silence from the administration.

Huh? The Left was content with Miers, Reid's own pick for SCOTUS.

It was the Right which torpedoed her and that stunned the White House. Hence, the deafening silence. It's not every day, heck, every century, when a president's nominee is slaughtered by his own party.

The Left was irrelevant with Miers. And the activity on the Left we're seeing now like the Murtha flap is the opening offensive for Campaign '06. And it is sheer coincidence that it follows so closely from Reid's action in shutting down the Senate. Notice how they're spaced to occupy a week's slots on the talking head shows.

The Dims are going home for two weeks. Lots of fundraising for '06 will happen now. Even more over the holiday recess.

It's about the '06 campaign, not Miers or Card.
22 posted on 11/19/2005 4:43:46 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: paudio

Titter, titter, titter, gossip, gossip gossip


23 posted on 11/19/2005 4:45:58 AM PST by bert (K.E. ; N.P . (FR = a lotta talk, but little action))
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To: magua

I hope so.


24 posted on 11/19/2005 5:05:52 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: magua

I think the fact that there were WMD's is going to come out IN THE OLD MEDIA soon.


25 posted on 11/19/2005 5:06:43 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: Not a 60s Hippy

I was recently looking for this doc- thanks for posting it again.

I actually do think Card may have been damaged by the Miers mess...new blood is not a bad idea- but I'd begin with the communications group- and the kind, but ineffective Scott McLellan.


26 posted on 11/19/2005 5:13:51 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: George W. Bush
W. has often been misunderestimated.

W.'s words have been "deconclusified". (Compliments to another FReeper) "

;-)

27 posted on 11/19/2005 5:15:43 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: beyond the sea

WMD Tariq Aziz knows all.


28 posted on 11/19/2005 5:16:37 AM PST by magua
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To: paudio

If this were written by a real reporter I'd put more stock in it.


29 posted on 11/19/2005 5:17:41 AM PST by Coop (FR = a lotta talk, but little action)
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To: George W. Bush
When the right was eating its own over the Miers nomination the left saw opportunity.

In the above nowhere did I say the left was involved with sinking Miers. I said the "right was eating its own over Miers". I would of thought that was pretty clear.

By "opportunity" I was saying the left saw Bush in a weakened state.

And so the left stepped up to the plate and started swinging.

That "started swinging" was referring to attacking Bush over the war, not Miers. With the Libby indictement they had multiple fronts to attack from. They had something to stick the dishonest tag too now besides just the WMD.

There were numerous Editorials from the right saying Bush's presidency was basically over because of Miers. The left was listening.

You add it all up and here we are.

30 posted on 11/19/2005 5:22:24 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: DB
By "opportunity" I was saying the left saw Bush in a weakened state.

Bush's flock quickly came home to roost with Alito's nomination.

Fitzmas was already a bust.

There were numerous Editorials from the right saying Bush's presidency was basically over because of Miers. The left was listening.

I didn't read these editorials. Do you have some to support the claim? By 'numerous', I assume you can cite a half-dozen or so reputable conservative news sources to support this?

Show me.

And the Left never sleeps. But the current offensive isn't the Left. It's the Dim establishment gearing up for '06, trying to do something other than be completely irrelevant. Until the last few weeks, they've resembled a rotting corpse. Now they rise like zombies, ready to summon their legion of undead (and actually deceased) voters for '06.
31 posted on 11/19/2005 5:28:21 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: DB
I'd bet his slide in job performance hinges on the Miers nomination.

Could be. MSM reports the polls as if Bush is losing the support of moderates, but actually I think at least in the Miers case (and also on illegal immigration and government spending issues), Bush lost/has lost the support of the very conservative wing of the GOP.

32 posted on 11/19/2005 5:51:24 AM PST by randita
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To: samtheman
Canning Card (and hopefully McMilktoast next) would be definitely more good news.

I suspect McClellan will join his Mother in Texas for her run at Governor.
33 posted on 11/19/2005 6:05:13 AM PST by wolfcreek
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To: beyond the sea; MJY1288

***If anything, this apparent passivity only goads them into making their case more emphatically.***

Just what some of us have been thinking about the President's slow response to the traitors in the democrat party. He and Rove make a great pair of poker players. Thanks for that article.


34 posted on 11/19/2005 6:32:58 AM PST by kitkat (Democrat=Socialist=Communist. Hillary the RED)
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To: George W. Bush
"I didn't read these editorials."

Are you serious? Where were you?

Conservative pundits were in melt down. Many were going on about how Bush was never really a conservative and that Miers was the final straw. Maybe others will remember the authors/column titles.
35 posted on 11/19/2005 6:37:22 AM PST by DB (©)
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To: kitkat

I felt Bush's first team during his initial term in office was definitely the "A" team from Ari to John Ashcroft...The absence of these guys for lesser men is very disappointing. I'd like to see a solid speech man (or woman) at the microphone. Personally, Bush could have guest press speakers for about a month (1 guest a week starting with Rush Limbaugh, then Shaun Hannity, then Ann Coulter and finally, Hugh Hewitt)...Can you imagine after a month how whipped the press morons would be following daily interchanges with that team? HA - I'd pay money to see that!Then I'd put General Honore in charge of permanent press secretary duties!


36 posted on 11/19/2005 6:42:49 AM PST by princess leah
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To: wolfcreek
I suspect McClellan will join his Mother in Texas for her run at Governor.
Which party?
37 posted on 11/19/2005 7:19:19 AM PST by samtheman
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To: George W. Bush

The base would have been fired up with Alito anytime, anyway.

From a White House perspective the Miers nomination made Bush look weak;

(1)she was a weak candidate in terms of background,
(2)not supported by his base
(3)no big objections from too many Dims

so
(a) her nomination initially looked like he was responding to Dim demands that he not name someone "controversial",

(b)then it simply looked like a weak nominee,

(c)and then pulling her out was sold by the Dims as "caving in to the radical right".

Altogether, it was a flawed and bound to fail nomination and it helped depress the public's belief that he was doing a good job.

If anyone has been wondering where Bush's "liberal" positions might originate, they need look no further than Andrew Card - associate of Sununu, backers of Souter.


38 posted on 11/19/2005 7:21:09 AM PST by Wuli
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To: Always Right; livius

maybe Card will be leaving early to prepare for a run for Teddy Kennedy's senate seat.

I Only Wish...


39 posted on 11/19/2005 7:29:02 AM PST by bitt ('George Bush was to go up in flames this Fall, not Paris.'...Richard Baehr)
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To: DB
Are you serious? Where were you? Conservative pundits were in melt down. Many were going on about how Bush was never really a conservative and that Miers was the final straw.

You're reading your own slant and fears into those.

No one said it was over. I recall saying that trying to push Miers through would make Bush lameduck before the '06 elections when it will become inevitable. But even a lameduck still has vast power. Since the Alito controversy ended, the split on the Right is right back where it was: borders and budget. No change. For all practical purposes, Miers is forgotten.

Okay, let's make it easy for you. Instead of producing "numerous" articles and editorials about The End Of Bush over Miers, produce just one.

I'd like to see it.
40 posted on 11/19/2005 7:30:07 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Wuli
The base would have been fired up with Alito anytime, anyway.

I know I am. Alito, the calm personable jurist and scholar, is actually kind of exciting. At least, in a dryly legal way. And the day had to come for conservatives when their judicial nominees could come out of the closet. Not bursting out in full regalia like Bork did. But being more open.

It's an important milestone for longterm conservative dominance.
41 posted on 11/19/2005 7:33:32 AM PST by George W. Bush
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To: Terpfen

I never saw one set of "internals" from these anti-Bush polls that were performed objectively.

These polls are just so much toilet paper.


42 posted on 11/19/2005 7:36:31 AM PST by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: kitkat
I hope that is what they are doing. I think with some of these secret documents being declassified soon, we may be seeing proof of WMD. But who knows if the old lying media will bother to talk about it.

This country is in trouble when the media is so horribly biased.

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The old established/liberal/socialist media is America's most ruthless, relentless, and destructive enemy.

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43 posted on 11/19/2005 7:36:53 AM PST by beyond the sea (Murtha: Redeployment - What .......Surrender? // “Victory is not an exit strategy”)
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To: wolfcreek

Yeah, get Tommy Franks and Russell Honore in there.........maybe they can stop the bleeding on W's coddling and political correctness in this war. To hell with what the world thinks, to hell with what the left thinks, to hell with what the MSM thinks........let's show the muscle we have over there in that hell hole and get the job done once and for all......at all costs! Santa? Are you listening? *~*


44 posted on 11/19/2005 7:44:51 AM PST by Dawgreg (Happiness is not having what you want, but wanting what you have.)
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To: Terpfen
Agreed, polls controlled by the Liberal media cannot and should not be trusted, ever.

The selection of Meir's was a direct result of the weak kneed Republican Party in Congress, the selection was controversial and caused heated debate that resulted in the selection of Alito. The first reaction from the president was to work within the constraints of a weak majority, the second was his decision to challenge their weakness and put the ball in their court with the base of the party.

The president has since gone on the offensive to stave off the constant attacks and lies perpetuated by the MSM and the Democrats. Congress has since found out that it is much wiser to stand behind the president, lets hope it continues.

If the Republicans keep the pressure up, the Democrats and the MSM will be crushed like a tin can.
45 posted on 11/19/2005 7:54:31 AM PST by TheForceOfOne
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To: livius

I've always thought Card was the lose link in the administraton.... I've just never trusted him for some reason I can't really pin down.


46 posted on 11/19/2005 5:58:26 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Always Right

I said that on another thread last night; many people are adamant I'm wrong and it was Powell or Armitage, but my intuition tells me it was Card.


47 posted on 11/19/2005 5:59:48 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
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