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With a labor shortage in many parts of the country, I'd say any black that can get to the US with a reasonable ability to speak English and a marketable job skill would do just fine. I know our business would hire skilled machinists right now no matter where they're from.

The real reason these people become second-class citizens is that most of them have nothing to offer. It's ot ther fault, and it's not because they're black. A white man from Bosnia with no skills and the average educatoin of a black man from Cameroon wouldn't do well either.

1 posted on 11/19/2005 7:50:06 AM PST by Imnotalib
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To: Imnotalib
the U.S. is at bottom a Darwinian society.

All societies are Darwinian. It is the nature of man. Working for the 'common good' in Cuba, Venezuela, etc. is nothing more than a means for one group to stay in power at the expense of others.

Making this a race issue, like the author of the article, is ludicrous. No opportunities for blacks in the U.S.? Hmmmm. Guess Jamie Foxx, Oprah Winfrey, Condi Rice, Colin Powell, Vernon Jordan, Shaq et al. must be Oreos. /sarc

2 posted on 11/19/2005 7:54:03 AM PST by peyton randolph (Warning! It is illegal to fatwah a camel in all 50 states)
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Black immigrants are not struggling in America - it is only the native born blacks. Liberals have been mocking conservatives for decades about the conservative claim that welfare leads to dependency and broken families, but the relative success of black immigrants is a powerful testimonial otherwise.


3 posted on 11/19/2005 7:54:18 AM PST by Jibaholic (The facts of life are conservative - Margaret Thatcher)
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To: Imnotalib

I agree with all you say. The world is a marketplace and you barter with what you have. However, 2nd class here is better than first class in many parts of the world.


4 posted on 11/19/2005 7:54:23 AM PST by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: Imnotalib

Wah Wah Wah, Boo Hoo Boo Hoo, Poor Misstreated Blacks.

"A white man from Bosnia with no skills and the average educatoin of a black man from Cameroon wouldn't do well either." This is a Fact.


7 posted on 11/19/2005 8:02:46 AM PST by MisouriMule (We will all soon reap what the ignorant are now sowing.)
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To: Imnotalib
They have given up their national identity, not to mention their passports, to become second-class citizens. For black people, America is “not the land of opportunity.” Jobs, if they can be found, are of the most menial kind,

Yeah, they're not nearly as good as the jobs the Cameroonians had back in the Old Country: lion bait, spear catcher, fly agar ... Do I hear someone boo-hooing because a group of immigrants just off the boat aren't made CEOs of America's top corporations? Now THERE'S a realistic expectation! And by the way, who ever promised anyone that America was the express route to Paradise anyway? It's a land of OPPORTUNITY, not GUARANTEES.

Those images we saw on TV recently of inundated Louisiana and Mississippi present the true picture of America

The true picture of America after the worst hurricane in half a century! How much better would Cameroon fare if it got walloped by Katrina? Spare me the false equivalency.

13 posted on 11/19/2005 8:32:23 AM PST by IronJack
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This author is either misinformed or an idiot (or both).

Immigrant blacks from Africa were not the ones he saw in Louisiana. Those were native born blacks -- ones who have been brainwashed into a life of dependency by the likes of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, Louis Farrakhan, the liberal Democrats, et. al.

Immigrant blacks from the Carribean, Africa, and other parts of the world, for the most part, do fine here in America.

14 posted on 11/19/2005 8:38:05 AM PST by PallMal
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To: Imnotalib

yet another puff piece of liberal propaganda. The fact is that most recent African immigrants end up doing better than so-called native blacks now and better than most native whites in the second generation


16 posted on 11/19/2005 8:42:36 AM PST by Nat Turner (DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME)
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To: Imnotalib

Some intersting stats about Cameroon:

Population (millions) 15.5
Literacy rate 73.5
Gross national income per capita 560
TVs per 1000 people 34
Radios per 1000 people 163
Telephone mainlines per 1000 people 7
Mobile phones per 1000 people 20
Personal computers per 1000 people 3.9
Internet users (thousands) 45

I don’t know who this Constant Sabang babe is, but my guess is she is a real U.S. hater.

I never did believed in the lottery system as a way to arrive to our shores. My question is, can anybody apply or does the person applying need to have a marketable skill? When this started, I was too disgusted to give it any attention. Now I regret it.

Thank you.


17 posted on 11/19/2005 9:02:37 AM PST by GatĂșn(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Imnotalib
A white man from Bosnia with no skills and the average educatoin of a black man from Cameroon wouldn't do well either.

Maybe, maybe not. My sister works in the hospitality industry. They hire huge numbers of recent immigrants. She says it is quite common for a Bosnian or Croatian to come here not knowing a word of English and without two nickels to rub together, and in two or three years he is a manager, speaking good English. They often leave to start their own businesses, or go to college and become executives or professionals.

On the other hand, immigrants from more tropical climes will work until the end of their days at the same job, sometimes turning down promotions if they require learning English or working longer hours.

This is not because the white immigrants are favored by racism, either. Quite to the contrary. The company goes to excruciating pains to figure out how many non-whites they need to promote, whether qualified or not, to satisfy the Federal quota mongers. Moreover, she sees the same pattern of maniacal ambition and self-improvement amongst some non-white immigrant groups, like the Vietnamese and Chinese.

The professors and pundits can argue about whether it is cultural or genetic, but there is no question that immigrants from some countries do way better than those from other countries.

21 posted on 11/19/2005 9:53:10 AM PST by ccmay (Beware the fury of a patient man.)
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To: Imnotalib

What a bunch of crap...I know some Cameroonians very well. They came here 7 years ago....worked very hard, and have since bought their dream home. It took them two years to save enough for furniture. Unlike in their own country, here Americans are rewarded for putting in long hours and hard work...The USA has proven to be their dream come true.


22 posted on 11/19/2005 10:27:44 AM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
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Virtually every recent African immigrant I have met has been articulate, educated and motivated and I believe they will do quite well here. That is until their offspring become Americanized and join the Democrat Plantation.
25 posted on 11/19/2005 11:11:23 AM PST by Mike Darancette (Mesocons for Rice '08)
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Those images we saw on TV recently of inundated Louisiana and Mississippi present the true picture of America, not the glossy “Hollywood superproductions or promotional videos” that capture our imaginations.

Not even an African, grasping for the worst hyperbole, can be that dense.

How does he explain rap stars and basketball players?

I do agree with him that the blacks depicted by hollywood tend to become cartoonish (A movie with 12 main characters have 6 of them be the director, the doctor, the physicist, the pilot, which devolves into comedy when a black actress lab technician uses a microscope lie a fiddle...

On the other hand, New Orleans ain't it either.

26 posted on 11/19/2005 11:44:44 AM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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Actually this article serves a useful purpose. If it disuades the useless, the lazy, the ignorant, who lie around and catch fruit falling from trees and do little else, from believing that in America it's the same, only instead of fruit it's Plasma big-screens, Mercedeces and bling-bling...


28 posted on 11/19/2005 12:08:16 PM PST by Publius6961 (The IQ of California voters is about 420........... .............cumulatively)
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To: Imnotalib

What great points! Blacks in africa are doing so much better than blacks in the states! (Sarcasm) Hah! What PC BS. The average inner city poor black is much better off than the average well off African and worlds better off than a poor african.


30 posted on 11/19/2005 12:11:56 PM PST by SmoothTalker
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To: mhking

pinging the king


31 posted on 11/19/2005 12:19:59 PM PST by groanup (shred for Ian)
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To: Imnotalib

An attempt to stop a brain drain from an African country...


35 posted on 11/19/2005 1:44:44 PM PST by durasell
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Even a second class citizen is better off in America than Cameroon.


38 posted on 11/26/2005 12:05:11 AM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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