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Thousands in Mass. to get cheaper oil - Delahunt, Chávez broker deal (it might as well be Castro)
Boston Globe ^ | November 20, 2005 | Michael Levenson and Susan Milligan

Posted on 11/20/2005 5:31:04 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: HostileTerritory

And whose senator committed treason back in the late sixties and early seventies?

Whose senator left a woman to drown?

Whose senator was a communist who took the fifth at a senate hearing?


41 posted on 11/20/2005 6:53:25 AM PST by babydoll22 (If you stop growing as a person you live in your own private hell.)
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To: ChuckHam

"Hmmm, sounds like you favor big government to regulate prices. That's certainly not a conservative issue."

No, I remember very well what price controls on gasoline did the last time we tried that. What is hapening at the reatil level isn't the problem, or at least it isn't the root of the problem. The problem really lies in the unregulated trading of petroleum as a commodity, which, as we have seen, is a prescription for boom and bust.

"Your screed belongs over on DU."

LOL! Trust me on this one; they'd reall get angry with me! Off to church!


42 posted on 11/20/2005 6:56:10 AM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The State Department and the President need to read this Congressman the riot act. Foreign relations are the sole province of the executive branch, not a Congress person on behalf of a specific state.


43 posted on 11/20/2005 6:56:51 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: SuziQ
Well, it is the Kennedy family running this, after all.

Did the reporter actually put the word Kennedy anywhere in the article? I did not see it, and submit my observation as yet another example of how "MSM" deletes information that would be "not in the best interests" of their readers. We know that Citizens Energy is Robert Kennedy's pet project, but how many casual readers know it.

In common language: CENSORSHIP

44 posted on 11/20/2005 6:58:30 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: maica

This is typical of a left-wing dictator. Harm your country and your people just for propaganda purposes.

The oil belongs to the people of Venezeula and they should get the right value for it. Why should rich people from Boston be subsidized by the poor people in Venezeula?

And it is typical of the American left. Play right into the hands of the propaganda machine of a left-wing dictator without having any clue whatsoever what harm they are really doing.


45 posted on 11/20/2005 7:04:50 AM PST by JustDoItAlways
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To: maica

OMG-Did you even read the article?

"When the discounted oil arrives early next month, Citizens Energy -- whose chairman and president, former US representative Joseph P. Kennedy II, also helped arrange the contract -- will screen recipients with the help of local organizations that serve the poor. Some 350 local dealers will then distribute three-fourths of the oil to local families."

"Kennedy said he was not concerned about Chávez's politics.

''You start parsing which countries' politics we're going to feel comfortable with, and only buying oil from them, then there are going to be a lot of people not driving their cars and not staying warm this winter," Kennedy said. ''There are a lot of countries that have much worse records than Venezuela. At the end of the day it's not our business to go choosing other peoples' leaders, particularly when they are duly-elected democratic leaders."

Kennedy said Delahunt has been working with Chávez ''for years now and has gone down there many times and developed a personal relationship with him.""






46 posted on 11/20/2005 7:07:41 AM PST by KCRW
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To: KCRW

I read the 7 graphs that were posted here. No, I did not clik on Boston.com and have no intention of doing so.

So consider my remarks about censorship to include the first 7 paragraphs only.


47 posted on 11/20/2005 7:10:34 AM PST by maica (We are fighting the War for the Free World --Frank Gaffney)
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To: BIGZ

> Why do we buy gas from CITGO?

> Buy American.

That nice to say, and it would be nice to boycott Mideast oil too, but I'm afraid I swallow my patriotic pride and buy the cheapest.


48 posted on 11/20/2005 7:13:51 AM PST by cloud8
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To: HostileTerritory

Nice spin- There are no cuts to LIHEAP-quit calling an increase a cut. Perhaps the increase is not what LIHEAP wanted, but it is not a cut.

Don't mislead people


49 posted on 11/20/2005 7:19:15 AM PST by KCRW
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To: maica

No problem- Kennedy wasn't mentioned until later in the article.


50 posted on 11/20/2005 7:20:10 AM PST by KCRW
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To: maica

> Did the reporter actually put the word Kennedy anywhere in the article?...We know that Citizens Energy is Robert Kennedy's pet project, but how many casual readers know it.

Citizens Energy is Joseph P. Kennedy II's non-profit vehicle. In Boston at least even non-readers know this because he reminds us constantly of it. It's true that the Globe has minimized the Kennedy family's involvement in an oil deal with an honest to God enemy of America, but the real news is that Rep. Delahunt is a pal of Hugo Chavez.

"The approximately $9 million deal will bring nine million gallons of oil to families and three million gallons to institutions that serve the poor, such as homeless shelters, said officials from Citizens Energy Corp., which is signing the contract."


51 posted on 11/20/2005 7:28:25 AM PST by cloud8
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To: Kolokotronis
"To me this is the same as Cynthia McKinney grabbing for the $10M Saudi check after 9/11." You really think so? The fact of the matter is that there is the very real possibility that people will freeze to death in the Northeast this winter because of stupid government regulations and the greed of an American oil industry which which has much of the Washington government and this administration on its payroll in one fashion or another!

Get a few years under your belt and you'll understand economics and socialism a wee bit better. If you're already seasoned, you're a crack-pot.

52 posted on 11/20/2005 7:42:26 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: sgtbono2002

From another part of the article:

***.....MassEnergyConsumer Alliance, a nonprofit group that also offers discounted oil, will distribute or sell the remaining quarter to homeless shelters, food banks, and low-income housing groups, said Larry Chretien, the group's executive director. Recipients must apply for the help, he said....***


53 posted on 11/20/2005 7:46:12 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Kolokotronis
The fact of the matter is that there is the very real possibility that people will freeze to death in the Northeast this winter because of stupid government regulations and the greed of an American oil industry which which has much of the Washington government and this administration on its payroll in one fashion or another!

Given that you started this rant with the words "The fact" it would be nice to see at least one fact in it.

54 posted on 11/20/2005 7:54:39 AM PST by jscd3
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To: Kolokotronis

I'm sure you can name someone who die because they couldn't afford to heat their home?


Other than miserable druggies who spent their $ on getting their next fix.


55 posted on 11/20/2005 7:58:27 AM PST by RedMonqey (Life is hard. It's even harder when you're stupid.)
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To: JustDoItAlways
This sounds a lot like the UN Oil for Food program. Dictator controls supply, cuts deals with politicans in other countries to make money and get political support.

Just wait until some anti-chavez bill comes up in congress- Kennedy will support it.

56 posted on 11/20/2005 8:00:08 AM PST by Red Boots
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To: Kolokotronis

On second thought you get partial credit for noting the existance of stupid government regulation...but only partial, since the context of the comment would seem to imply that such regulation (not allowing ANWR exploration, preventing new refineries, reformulated fuels mandate, etc.) exists at the behest of the oil industry (whose pockets you seem to believe the entire US government is in), which is really dumb...


57 posted on 11/20/2005 8:01:04 AM PST by jscd3
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Actually, other posters here have pretty much summed this up correctly.

A dictator subsidizes a product at the expense of the really poor(the people of Venezuela) in order to buy political goodwill from people who are, on average, far better off (the people of Mass.).

No wonder Kennedy goes for it...it is indistinguishable from standard Democratic party politics.

58 posted on 11/20/2005 8:06:25 AM PST by jscd3
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To: babydoll22

I abhor Senator Kennedy, but without a doubt, the treason of North Carolina killed far more Americans than Sen. Tipsy ever did.


59 posted on 11/20/2005 8:09:43 AM PST by HostileTerritory
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To: HostileTerritory

1.I'm actually not 'from' North Carolina. I live here.

2. The question is a bit ambiguous, like "Which is smaller, a penny or a dime?" I need a little clarification.

a. Are you asking about current events or history?


60 posted on 11/20/2005 8:27:04 AM PST by freema (Proud Marine Mom)
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