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1 posted on 11/21/2005 9:22:38 AM PST by West Coast Conservative
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To: West Coast Conservative

Rush just brought this article up on his show...

He's back from vacation and on a roll!!!


2 posted on 11/21/2005 9:24:03 AM PST by SE Mom (God Bless those who serve..)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Contrary to popular PC, Murtha is not pro-Military nor a real military strategist. What he is is a defeatist who happens to have been a decorated Vietnam War Veteran. Sort of like Kerry if you ask me.
4 posted on 11/21/2005 9:28:20 AM PST by TCats
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To: silverleaf

dumbocrat ping


5 posted on 11/21/2005 9:29:52 AM PST by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

So when is he going to urge a pullout from Kosovo? * Sound of crickets chirping *


6 posted on 11/21/2005 9:30:42 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: West Coast Conservative

Good thing this traitorous SOB wasn't around for the invasion of Europe!

"The Germans don't want us in France and we should withdraw!"


7 posted on 11/21/2005 9:32:31 AM PST by PeterFinn (The Holocaust was perfectly legal.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I wanted the troops out of Somalia,lots of folks did, but that was before 09-11-01.

Things change.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 9:33:24 AM PST by Mears (The Killer Queen)
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To: SittinYonder

Murtha advised Clinton to pull out of Somalia in 1993

* bump *


13 posted on 11/21/2005 9:39:22 AM PST by eyespysomething (This ashtray, the paddlegame, the remote control, the lamp and the chair. That's all I need!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

So Mr. Murtha sounds like an ex-Marine who has gone dovish.


15 posted on 11/21/2005 9:44:27 AM PST by brooklyn dave (Allah is a Moon god)
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To: West Coast Conservative
And now the Islamic Terrorist in Somalia (called pirates by the delusional MSM) are threatening international sea waters out to 200 miles off the Somalia coast.
16 posted on 11/21/2005 9:46:33 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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To: West Coast Conservative
After terrorists attacked U.S. troops in Mogadishu, Somalia 12 years ago, anti-Iraq war Democrat, Rep. John Murtha urged then-President Clinton to begin a complete pullout of U.S. troops from the region.

So.....he has years of experience in pulling a Murtha!

17 posted on 11/21/2005 9:48:47 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: West Coast Conservative
Rep. John Murtha Urged Somalia Pullout in '93

But . . . . but . . . . but, I thought Murtha was a HAAAAAWWWWWWWKKKKKK!!!!

There's only one type of hawk that runs every time the other side shoots back . . . . . . a CHICKEN hawk!!

Bawk, bawk-bawk, bawk, bawk-bawk.
20 posted on 11/21/2005 9:59:15 AM PST by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: West Coast Conservative
Upon his return he proclaimed to the world that the Mogadishu defeat had a devastating impact on the Rangers' morale.

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Leaving our troops hanging without armor after repeated requests for tanks, personnel carriers, etc negatively impacted morale. Having to call on the Pakistanis for armor, etc in the middle of a fierce firefight because our own country wasn't providing the materials that we needed negatively impacted morale. Pulling our troops out before we were able to get some payback negatively impacted morale.

Our troops were not defeated in Mogadishu. They got a very bloody nose due to bad planning and lack of support, and they were pulled out without being allowed to swing back.

21 posted on 11/21/2005 9:59:18 AM PST by wyattearp (The best weapon to have in a gunfight is a shotgun - preferably from ambush.)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Thank you WCC---great article...

I KNEW this Murtha guy was a "Marine Hero" fraud!!!


22 posted on 11/21/2005 10:16:31 AM PST by Txsleuth (9/11NEVER FORGET-NEVER SURRENDER, Sam Johnson, a REAL hero!)
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To: West Coast Conservative; SittinYonder

Murtha should've advised Clinton to pull out of Monica.


26 posted on 11/21/2005 10:24:39 AM PST by eyespysomething (This ashtray, the paddlegame, the remote control, the lamp and the chair. That's all I need!)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Murtha = traitor


28 posted on 11/21/2005 10:25:26 AM PST by freedomcrusader (Proudly wearing the politically incorrect label "crusader" since 1/29/2001)
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To: West Coast Conservative
IMHO, he's called a "hawk" only because he has supported military spending. And that seems to be a common thread with Democrats that oppose every actual USE of the military. They look at the military as just another jobs/pork program to sling at their constituents.
29 posted on 11/21/2005 10:26:26 AM PST by PogySailor (Semper Fi to the men of 3/1, 1st Marines in Al Anbar)
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To: West Coast Conservative

I'm ashamed that Murtha ia a PA representative.


30 posted on 11/21/2005 10:28:55 AM PST by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: West Coast Conservative
After terrorists attacked U.S. troops in Mogadishu, Somalia 12 years ago, anti-Iraq war Democrat, Rep. John Murtha urged then-President Clinton to begin a complete pullout of U.S. troops from the region.

All future US foriegn policy: Do not listen to John Murtha.

31 posted on 11/21/2005 10:29:42 AM PST by Irish_Thatcherite (~~~A vote for Bertie Ahern is a vote for Gerry Adams!~~~)
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To: West Coast Conservative

Murtha is seeking CYA to insulate his sorry arse over whats about to come down.

Read the entire "The Hill" article, very interesting.

http://www.hillnews.com/thehill/export/TheHill/News/Frontpage/101805/spending.html

"But Murtha also has raised some watchdogs’ concerns because his brother Robert “Kit” Murtha runs KSA Consulting, a lobbying group that represents some 10 smaller defense companies. In 2004, Murtha’s brother was able to secure $20 million in the defense-spending bill for his clients. Kit Murtha repeatedly has denied working directly with his brother’s office"

http://blogcritics.org/archives/2005/11/19/095435.php

"Republican lawmakers say that ties between Rep. John Murtha (D-PA) and his brother's lobbying firm, KSA Consulting, may warrant investigation by the House ethics committee...
According to a June 13 article in the Los Angeles Times, the fiscal 2005 defense appropriations bill included more than $20 million in funding for at least 10 companies for whom KSA lobbied. Carmen Scialabba, a longtime Murtha aide, works at KSA as well.


KSA directly lobbied Murtha's office on behalf of seven companies, and a Murtha aide told a defense contractor that it should retain KSA to represent it, according to the LA Times.

In early 2004, Murtha reportedly leaned on U.S. Navy officials to sign a contract to transfer the Hunters Point Shipyard to the city of San Francisco, according to the San Francisco Chronicle. A company called Lennar Inc. had right to the land, and Laurence Pelosi, nephew to House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), was an executive with the firm at that time.

Murtha also inserted earmarks in defense bills that steered millions of dollars in federal research funds toward companies owned by children of fellow Pennsylvania Rep. Paul Kanjorski (D). .."

http://rawstory.com/news/2005/GOP_calls_for_ethics_investigation_into_1118.html

http://dailydelay.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_dailydelay_archive.html

http://corner.nationalreview.com/05_11_13_corner-archive.asp

http://www.thepoliticalchase.com/


http://blogs.aol.fr/demorpion/R-Actions

"The chairman of the Defense Appropriations subcommittee at the time, Rep. John Murtha (D-Pa.), had been caught in the FBI's ABSCAM sting operation in which an agent disguised as a Saudi sheik offered members of Congress large cash bribes. O'Neill put Wilson on the Ethics Committee to save Murtha, which he did."




32 posted on 11/21/2005 10:34:54 AM PST by Ursus arctos horribilis ("It is better to die on your feet than to live on your knees!" Emiliano Zapata 1879-1919)
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