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We Don't Need Another Soldier(Barf alert... This is what we are up against in the public schools.)
Rethinking Schools ^ | Fall 2005 | By Karl Meiner

Posted on 11/21/2005 4:10:18 PM PST by DuckFan4ever

When Satch,* who graduated in June 2001, returned to my classroom last spring, he bore little physical resemblance to the gangly, bespectacled youth who once sat in my sophomore English class. He strode through the door in neatly pressed military garb, hat pressed to his right hip, a thick-chested, heavily tattooed man. I noticed that contacts replaced the Coke-bottle glasses he once wore. But when we shook hands, his smile revealed more than a glimmer of the angry, confused kid who had struggled at school.

"They're shipping me to Iraq," he told me. "I leave in one week." The tone of his voice betrayed the poise and the confidence his uniform projected.

--Snip--

Late in his senior year, he signed up with the Marines. I felt dismayed and helpless. It seemed to me that Satch had other—better—choices.

--Snip--

On Sept. 11, 2001, Satch was serving in Europe. Through his emails I learned sparing details about the anti-terrorist unit he had been assigned to in the Mediterranean. When the United States invaded Iraq in March 2003, Satch was stationed in Spain. He questioned the justification for the war and had difficulty staying quiet. "You taught me to think critically," he once wrote, "but here that isn't always possible."

"Since I been in I realized how much of the recruiters' job is bullshit. They're taught...trained...to talk easily about politics and how to make jokes. Seriously, they take lessons on this stuff."

Satch said that in high school he felt directionless. "Recruiters feed off of low esteem, man." The military recruiters who sought Satch's signature had promised him "a lot of respect, the chance to become a man who had a purpose. They glamorize it. Recruiters make the military to be exactly what you need it to be."

(Excerpt) Read more at rethinkingschools.org ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: Oregon
KEYWORDS: leftisttripe; military; recruiters; rethinking
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The author Karl Meiner (skyclear@teleport.com) teaches English at Wilson High School in Portland, Ore. This is way many teachers here in Portland see their role. Using their positions to mold students into their view of the world, rather than truly teaching them to think critically and make their own decisions. Unfortunately for many teachers, students are only thinking critically when they agree with the teachers view.
1 posted on 11/21/2005 4:10:19 PM PST by DuckFan4ever
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To: DuckFan4ever

Totally made up.


2 posted on 11/21/2005 4:17:06 PM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: DuckFan4ever

In a similar vein but from a different point of view, might I recommend: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0786710977/103-1345784-2994234?v=glance&n=283155&s=books&v=glance


3 posted on 11/21/2005 4:19:02 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: facedown

Do you mean that the teacher's references to the student who became a Marine were made up or is the reporting of these references made up?


4 posted on 11/21/2005 4:20:44 PM PST by FormerLib (Kosova: "land stolen from Serbs and given to terrorist killers in a futile attempt to appease them.")
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To: DuckFan4ever

Let me get this straight: the kid was in Europe on 9/11 and now he is angry to be going to Iraq?!? How long was his enlistment (usually Marines sign up for 4 years I believe)? Did he reenlist? Sounds pretty bogus to me.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 4:22:44 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: DuckFan4ever

OK, he was an angry confused kid who had trouble with school.

Exactly where would he be if he hadn't signed up? Publik skool didn't seem to be doing the trick.

Seems like the perfect kind of guy to have a change of direction.


6 posted on 11/21/2005 4:23:35 PM PST by digger48
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To: DuckFan4ever

I could tell the euphemism 'to think critically' actually meant 'to question everything this stinking government says.'

I am convinced you are right. I don't know what to do about teachers like this. They are the underground representing anyone dispising the United States.


7 posted on 11/21/2005 4:25:24 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DuckFan4ever
"Since I been in I realized" - The author Karl Meiner teaches English - he doesn't teach it very well.
8 posted on 11/21/2005 4:25:30 PM PST by SF Republican
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To: digger48

Well, yes, there is that...

LOL

Hey, don't expect a leftist to admit that.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 4:26:13 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DuckFan4ever

Sounds like a load af BS to me. If he were a marine he'd have his head on straight. Marines are taught to think on their feet and not to go around crying about things to their high school teachers. As a former marine I am disgusted that this was even posted other than to show people the BS that comes from some people.

Semper Fidelis!


10 posted on 11/21/2005 4:27:28 PM PST by rfreedom4u (Native Texan)
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To: DoughtyOne

Draft the teacher and make him clean latrines.


11 posted on 11/21/2005 4:27:47 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: DuckFan4ever
The "who we are" page is far more disturbing, if you sweep off the "feel good fluff":

The History and Philosophy of Rethinking Schools Nineteen years ago, a group of Milwaukee-area teachers had a vision.

They wanted not only to improve education in their own classrooms and schools, but to help shape reform throughout the public school system in the United States.

Today that vision is embodied in Rethinking Schools.

Rethinking Schools began as a local effort to address problems such as basal readers, standardized testing, and textbook-dominated curriculum. Since its founding in 1986, it has grown into a nationally prominent publisher of educational materials, with subscribers in all 50 states, all 10 Canadian provinces, and many other countries.

While the scope and influence of Rethinking Schools has changed, its basic orientation has not. Most importantly, it remains firmly committed to equity and to the vision that public education is central to the creation of a humane, caring, multiracial democracy. While writing for a broad audience, Rethinking Schools emphasizes problems facing urban schools, particularly issues of race.

Throughout its history, Rethinking Schools has tried to balance classroom practice and educational theory. It is an activist publication, with articles written by and for teachers, parents, and students. Yet it also addresses key policy issues, such as vouchers and marketplace-oriented reforms, funding equity, and school-to-work.

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Schools are about more than producing efficient workers or future winners of the Nobel Prize for science. They are the place in this society where children from a variety of backgrounds come together and, at least in theory, learn to talk, play, and work together.

Schools are integral not only to preparing all children to be full participants in society, but also to be full participants in this country's ever-tenuous experiment in democracy. That this vision has yet to be fully realized does not mean it should be abandoned.

There are many reasons to be discouraged about the future: School districts nationwide continue to slash budgets; violence in our schools and cities shows no signs of abating; attempts to privatize the schools have not slowed; and the country's productive resources are still used to make zippier shoes, rather than used in less profitable arenas like education and affordable housing.

There is a Zulu expression: "If the future doesn't come toward you, you have to go fetch it." We believe teachers, parents, and students are essential to building a movement to go fetch a better future: in our classrooms, in our schools,and in the larger society. There are lots of us out there. Let's make our voices heard.

Despite Rethinking Schools' growth in the last decade, it remains a small nonprofit organization directed by editors and editorial associates who volunteer their time, aided by a small staff. We welcome your feedback, and encourage you to join us in rethinking our schools and our society.

12 posted on 11/21/2005 4:29:06 PM PST by xcamel (a system poltergeist stole it.)
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To: DuckFan4ever

OK-I call BS on this whole story. The kid supposedly graduated in June 2001 and was serving "in Europe" by 9/11. Totally impossible that he would have had time to get through the training cycle in time for that. This is (yet) another phony story told by a lib using GIs (real or imaginary) for their agenda.


13 posted on 11/21/2005 4:29:25 PM PST by 91B (God made man, Sam Colt made men equal.)
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To: ClaireSolt

He wouldn't be fit to clean my latrine.


14 posted on 11/21/2005 4:31:31 PM PST by DoughtyOne (MSM: Public support for war waining. 403/3 House vote against pullout vaporizes another lie.)
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To: DuckFan4ever
This guy reminds me of some of my English lit teachers and professors. Effeminate and searching for the homosexual meanings of the stories they assigned us. Maybe part of the problem is they resent the masculine side of military service.

As for recruiters feeding off low self esteem, so what.
When I went to see the recruiter I had low self esteem from a life of abuse and insecurity. I was looking for the discipline, organization and support and direction needed to succeed in life. When I became a recruiter many young people came to me looking for the same and we all became better people for it.

These teachers and professors have lived in their ivory towers judging the world all their lives without really participating in it. I have served 20 years in many parts of the world. I have enough personal experiences and seen this world as the shitty cess pool it really is, but still have hope that people can live free and happy, but smart enough to know that without people in the military profession the chances of my country and my children continuing to live that way are pretty slim.
15 posted on 11/21/2005 4:32:39 PM PST by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: 91B

Yep....came across as politically motivated crappola to me as well.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 4:40:08 PM PST by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: rfreedom4u
As a former marine I am disgusted that this was even posted other than to show people the BS that comes from some people.

I also am a former Marine, and I work with this teacher. I felt it was important for people to know how much the English and Social Studies teachers have changed. It used to be the Social Studies teacher was typically an ex-jock who majored in education so he could coach. Now all the Social Studies teachers are left wing activists intent on indoctrinating students in their ideology. They claim it is 'critical thinking'.

17 posted on 11/21/2005 4:42:23 PM PST by DuckFan4ever (Janice Rogers Brown for the Supreme court in '06)
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Tell me about it. I have a cousin who teaches at Portland State U. We have not spoken since shortly after 9/11. My fault, I reckon. I went ballistic on her when I couldn't convince her that Bush did not hire the pilots who drove the planes into WTC. A talented and gifted person who went to the U of Chicago during the late 60's. Came back to Oregon all screwed up.


18 posted on 11/21/2005 4:44:25 PM PST by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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To: DuckFan4ever

When I was in my last year of school, seriously considering the military as a career, I sought advice from a lot of men I admired.

This was during Vietnam, our school Chaplain (it's a private school in Australia - the Chaplain also taught us Scripture) was committed to the anti-war movement, and was a committed pacifist. I liked him. I admired him. And I consulted him about this as I did other men I liked and admired.

He told me military service was a good career, and one in which I'd find challenge and a great deal of satisfaction. It wasn't really what I expected to hear, and I said so.

And I remember his reply - he said that he never hid his beliefs from the boys he ministered to and who he taught. And he never would. But as a teacher, his greatest goal in life was to create independent thinkers - and that meant that he had to be open to the idea that his students would reach different conclusions than he had. If they all believed what he believed, he'd be a profound failure as a teacher.

The main goal of a good teacher was to help children become adults who would stand by their own beliefs - not parrot the beliefs of the people who taught them.

Today, I am a teacher myself - and everyday I try to remember what he taught me that day.


19 posted on 11/21/2005 4:47:15 PM PST by naturalman1975 (Sure, give peace a chance - but si vis pacem, para bellum.)
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Write him. His email is on the article. His work email is kmeiner@pps.k12.or.us The principal at the school is Dave Hildreth. His email is dhildret@pps.k12.or.us


20 posted on 11/21/2005 4:49:30 PM PST by DuckFan4ever (Janice Rogers Brown for the Supreme court in '06)
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