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John Kerry's State Department
NY Sun ^ | 11/21/05

Posted on 11/21/2005 7:09:38 PM PST by dervish

A story circulating in Washington, perhaps apocryphal, has it that late one evening during last year's annual Munich Conference on Security Policy, after the day's discussions were finished and a few drinks had been downed, Richard Holbrooke began a sentence by saying, "When John Kerry is president and I'm secretary of state and Nicholas Burns here is undersecretary of state for political affairs ..." Mr. Kerry went on to lose the election…

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Mr. Holbrooke had written a glowing report in the Washington Post predicting that Mr. Burns would be in the new State Department team, which he described as "among the very best professionals of the current generation." He said their foreign policy would be "more centrist, oriented toward problem-solving, essentially non-ideological, and focused on traditional diplomacy." Mr. Holbrooke got almost all the appointments he predicted (and praised) correct - including Assistant Secretary Daniel Fried, Assistant Secretary C. David Welch, and Assistant Secretary Christopher R. Hill.

Such effusive praise of the Bush administration's team for State from the man who would have most likely led the State Department in a Kerry administration (sorry, Senator Biden) tells a lot about the state of things in Foggy Bottom. President Bush won the 2004 election, a contest fought largely on foreign policy issues. Mr. Bush presented the platform for continuing America's war on terror by tackling tyrannical regimes and democratizing the Middle East. Mr. Kerry ran on a platform of working "more with our European allies," which the American people knew meant ignoring the British, Italians, and others who joined the war in Iraq, and instead making nice with the French and Germans. But the staffing hasn't worked out the way the voters might have expected.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: abbas; bolton; clinton; holbrooke; iran; kerry; nicholasburns; nukes; presbush; rice; saudiarabia; statedept
Instead, with a few exceptions, most notably John Bolton as ambassador to the United Nations and Condoleezza Rice as secretary, we've gotten a State Department of Kerry-ites. Mr. Burns, moreover, is unusually influential as the third-ranking officer in the department because Ms. Rice has been relentlessly globetrotting and her immediate deputy, Robert Zoellick, has been preoccupied with Sudan and China. Mr. Burn's exact role in policy is hidden by State Department secrecy, but it's visible in the Bush administration's letting the E.U.-3 (Britain, France, and Germany) take the lead in handling Iran's march toward the A-bomb.
1 posted on 11/21/2005 7:09:39 PM PST by dervish
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To: dervish
Unfortunately, most of the State Dept looks like a Move-On rally, politically. The sayings in military circles range from "Ya know, we really need a US desk at State", to "We would have already won the WoT and returned home from Iraq had State not screwed things up."

It's not who the Secretary of State is, it's the entrenched leftists who populate the department and constantly undermine the President that are the problem.

2 posted on 11/21/2005 7:17:53 PM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: dervish

The state department is overwhelmingly lefist...so much so that they could be a mini-UN right in Washington, DC.


3 posted on 11/21/2005 7:22:42 PM PST by Buffettfan
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To: dervish
Mr. Burn's exact role in policy is hidden by State Department secrecy, but it's visible in the Bush administration's letting the E.U.-3 (Britain, France, and Germany) take the lead in handling Iran's march toward the A-bomb.

Ex-Ce-lent, the Iranians will get there power plants and bombs...

4 posted on 11/21/2005 7:29:57 PM PST by humint (}Think of all the things you don't know you don't know{)
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To: dervish

The State Dept. has looked/been like a moveon cluser f-ck for a looong time.


5 posted on 11/21/2005 7:32:10 PM PST by Waco
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To: M1Tanker

term limits??


6 posted on 11/21/2005 7:35:00 PM PST by dervish (no excuse s)
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To: humint; All

more on Burns from the article --

"He did a stint as spokesman for President Clinton's first-term secretary of state, Warren Christopher, where his service included criticizing Mayor Giuliani for kicking Yasser Arafat out of a concert at Lincoln Center, saying that Mr. Arafat deserved to be treated with "respect, dignity, and hospitality."


7 posted on 11/21/2005 7:35:57 PM PST by dervish (no excuse s)
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To: dervish

Maybe, just maybe, if Able Danger, the leaks from CIA, State, FBI, Justice and that vermin Sandy Berger's escapades ever get completely brought to light, we can all sit and watch some real fun.

Right after a couple hundred of the major players get perpwalked to the nearest Redline Brig, the rest of the Clintonista moles will get their pink slip, a document box for their personal effects and ten minutes with armed guards in tow to gather their stuff before they all get shipped out of the country.

They will probably all enjoy France.


8 posted on 11/21/2005 7:37:36 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: dervish

Unfortunatly, most of the State Dept's workers are unionized GS workers. Almost impossible to fire, and leave when they retire.


9 posted on 11/21/2005 7:38:11 PM PST by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just NAZIism without the "twisted cross")
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To: dervish

I have never understood why Bush is so fond of people who hate him and so indifferent to his allies.


10 posted on 11/21/2005 7:40:34 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: dervish

What, no jobs for Sandy Berger and Joe Wilson?


11 posted on 11/21/2005 7:49:49 PM PST by popdonnelly
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To: dervish

John Kerry is an idiot; he comes from Mass, home of the idiots and drunks; he has no imagination, he doesn't even know what planet he is on; the only reason his missus married him, she needed a tax break.

We should trade him for Bin Laden, not a dime's worth the difference in either one of them.


12 posted on 11/21/2005 7:55:08 PM PST by HarleyLady27 (My ? to libs: "Do they ever shut up on your planet?" "Grow your own DOPE: Plant a LIB!")
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To: M1Tanker

Yes, but they can be reassigned to Burundi. And fired if they refuse the assignment. Or maybe the new embassy in Nuuk (Godthab), Greenland.


13 posted on 11/21/2005 8:02:30 PM PST by pierrem15
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To: nickcarraway

"I have never understood why Bush is so fond of people who hate him and so indifferent to his allies."



Might have something to do with the old saw about "Hold your friends close, and your enemies even closer".

Do have to admit a certain grim desire to either watch Bush open a can of whupass on them or just put out a call for volunteers to hold a two-week dungaree liberty on everything inside the beltway. (Oh, PLEASE let it be the latter..........)


14 posted on 11/21/2005 8:04:17 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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To: dervish
Everone here at FR has a right to their opinion. First, allow me to state (not State Dept) that I've been here at FR since 1998 and didn't join the US Dept of State until 2004. We are not all, as the conventional wisdom, democrats. And, our diplomacy is working to checkmate both enemies and allies into partners for peace, despite the yuppie-GenX instant gratification cycles.

The thing that never ceases to amaze me is that "instant gratification" immediate expectation that seems to be the benchmark for success.... Adults understand how to suceed. Western civilizaion, before socialism, was capable of deferred gratification and built both great minds and cultures. Today, it is sad that most of the world reacts without a longterm plan to the socialist CNN style cycle of gratification.

Trust your State Department a little more and understand that your President is being successful - that is why the democrats who ascribe to the world socialist viewpoint have gone to thier nuclear option of opposition.

15 posted on 11/21/2005 8:16:16 PM PST by Jumper
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"Trust your State Department a little more and understand that your President is being successful"

Sorry I don't see it that way, and I am not one to blindly "trust." The State Department is filled with Arabist realists who do not ascribe to Pres Bush's democratizing philosophy, who suck up to Saudi and Arab oil interests, and worship stability.

As far as I can see, John Bolton is the only good man to have come in or out of State in a long while. I trust him.

State has another problem former Secretary of State George Schulz understood well.

"Let me conclude with a story from my time in office. When an ambassador had made it through the hurdles of nomination and confirmation, I invited him or her to my office and said, “Before you can leave, you have one more test. Go over to that globe and show me that you can identify your country.” Without exception, the ambassador-to-be spun the globe and located the country to which he would be posted.

One day, the late Mike Mansfield, already many years our ambassador to Japan and an old friend from my previous times in the cabinet, came in for a visit just before he was to return to Tokyo. I told him about my little test and said, “Mike, how about you?” He and I laughed, and he went to the globe. Mike put his hand on the United States and said, “Here’s my country.”

http://www.fpri.org/enotes/diplomacy.20020611.shultz.workofdiplomacy.html



As far as I can see, John Bolton is the only good person to come in or out of State in a long time.


16 posted on 11/21/2005 8:36:29 PM PST by dervish (no excuse s)
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To: Waco

Correction, that's cluster %&^*.


17 posted on 11/21/2005 8:39:48 PM PST by whenigettime
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To: M1Tanker

"It's not who the Secretary of State is, it's the entrenched leftists who populate the department and constantly undermine the President that are the problem".



thank you!!!


18 posted on 11/21/2005 9:13:35 PM PST by Marshall1
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To: Jumper
I've been here at FR since 1998 and didn't join the US Dept of State until 2004... ...Trust your State Department a little more and understand that your President is being successful - that is why the democrats who ascribe to the world socialist viewpoint have gone to their nuclear option of opposition.

I agree with what you're saying and I think I can imagine where you're coming from... my Mr. Burns post earlier was all in good humor. Seriously though, I bet trying to balance our relations with so many countries, each with their own unique, deep seated opinions and theories of American foreign policy [half of which are "straight out of a Tom Clancy novel" kind of conspiracy theories] is extremely difficult. My estimation is that the there are times that are really satisfying and no one hears a word about them and others where something goes a little bit wrong and the press is drooling for the story. Personally, I’m looking forward to the day when Iran drops its nuclear ambitions, stops supporting international terrorism and joins the community of nations. I believe it unlikely that Iran will do these things with its current government but as you say, we are all entitled to our own opinions.

I am of the opinion that our great nation cannot have too many partners for peace! Although I don't know your quality of work, I'll assume you do great work so I can simply say, keep up the great work!

19 posted on 11/21/2005 9:45:19 PM PST by humint (} Think of all the things you don't know you don't know {)
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To: Jumper

Hey, Jumper.......sorry about the bad attitude.

I get caught around a TV set any more than ten or fifteen minutes anymore when the "news" is on, and it screws up my disposition for half a month. Spent most of this last weekend with one ear out for the latest on the House Friday Nite Fight, so imagine I'll be like a bear with a sore paw until Easter.

My bad........I owe you one.


20 posted on 11/21/2005 10:22:07 PM PST by Unrepentant VN Vet
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