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50 things you didn't know about Disneyland
DentonRC.com ^ | Wednesday, November 23, 2005 | By JOHN FLINN

Posted on 11/25/2005 9:46:46 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy

In honor of Disneyland’s 50th anniversary, we present 50 cool, obscure and simply odd things you probably didn’t know about the self-proclaimed Happiest Place on Earth. Many were culled from Mouse Tales by David Koenig (Bonaventure, $19.95). Some were provided by Disney archivist Dave Smith, and others came from 101 Things You Never Knew About Disneyland by former park employee Kevin Yee and lifelong fan Jason Schultz (Zauberreich, $14.95).

1. Disneyland’s original Tinker Bell was a 71-year-old Hungarian circus performer named Tiny Kline. The first to fly off the top of the Matterhorn on a zip line, she previously worked as a stunt aerialist, hanging from a flying airplane by her teeth.

2. High inside the hollow Matterhorn is a basketball court. It’s part of an employee break room. Los Angeles Lakers’ center Vlade Divac has been up there to shoot hoops.

3. Many of the faces of the pirates in Pirates of the Caribbean are modeled on those of the “Imagineers” (Disneyspeak for the park’s artists and engineers) who created the ride. There’s evidence one face was modeled on Walt Disney’s.

4. Ron Ziegler, Richard Nixon’s press secretary during the Watergate scandal, once worked as a skipper on the Jungle Cruise ride.

5. The spooky voice that narrates the Haunted Mansion ride is that of the Pillsbury Doughboy. An actor named Paul Frees, who was to Disney what Mel Blanc was to Warner Brothers, supplied the voices for both, as well as many of the pirates in Pirates of the Caribbean and most of the characters in “Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln” (except Abe himself). He was also the voice of John Lennon in the old Beatles cartoons and Boris Badenov in the Rocky & Bullwinkle Show.

6. The sailing ship Columbia, which is supposed to be a replica of the first U.S. ship to circumvent the globe, actually was built in large part from the plans for the HMS Bounty, of mutiny fame. Disney’s shipbuilders couldn’t find plans for the original Columbia, so they relied heavily on those of Capt. William Bligh’s ship, which had similar dimensions.

7. Children’s Fairyland in Oakland was one of the major inspirations for Disneyland. Walt Disney even hired Fairyland’s first director, Dorothy Manes, to work at his park.

8. From groundbreaking to opening, Disneyland was built in just 365 days.

9. Perhaps inevitably, opening day - July 17, 1955 - was a disaster. Asphalt poured just hours before guests arrived hadn’t fully dried, and women’s spike heels sank into Main Street. VIP passes were widely counterfeited, and double the expected number of people showed up. Rides broke down. Because of a plumber’s strike, Walt Disney had to choose between drinking fountains and bathrooms. He opted for the latter, telling a reporter, “People can buy Pepsi-Cola, but they can’t pee in the street.”

10. Fittingly, one of the original Tomorrowland attractions was Crane’s Bathroom of Tomorrow.

11. Frank Sinatra showed up on opening day and took a spin around Autopia.

12. Disneyland cost $17 million to build in 1955, about $116 million in today’s dollars. The Space Mountain ride, which opened in 1977, cost more than half that amount (in constant dollars).

13. ABC was one of the original financial backers and for years owned a share of the park. Now, of course, the Walt Disney Co. owns ABC.

14. On opening day, Walt Disney had his gardeners cover bare patches of dirt by replanting weeds from the parking lot and labeling them with long, horticultural-sounding names.

15. Disneyland is home to feral cats - nobody knows how many - that come out at night, after visitors leave. Years ago, more than 100 were discovered living inside Sleeping Beauty Castle.

16. If the voice of the droid pilot in Star Tours sounds a little like Pee-wee Herman, it’s because both are voiced by comedian Paul Reubens.

17. At least three babies have been born at Disneyland.

18. Walt Disney kept a 600-square-foot studio apartment above the firehouse on Main Street. It’s maintained as a shrine to the park’s founder and kept just as he left it, with Victorian antiques, red velvet carpeting and a device for making grilled cheese sandwiches. Outsiders are rarely allowed inside. A light shines from the window at all times as a symbol of Disney’s eternal presence.

19. Untold thousands of the old A, B, C, D and E tickets are still in circulation, moldering away in people’s drawers. From time to time, guests still show up at the park with them, and they’re given the face value of the ticket. (At their most expensive, individual E tickets went for 95 cents.) A better bet is to sell them on eBay, where they fetch many times that amount.

20. On Splash Mountain, high-spirited women sometimes lift their blouses for the cameras that snap souvenir pictures. These girls-gone-wild photos are usually destroyed by park employees, but more than a dozen were smuggled out and posted on an Internet site called “Flash Mountain.”

21. As a teenager, actor and comedian Steve Martin worked in Merlin’s Magic Shop in Fantasyland.

22. Walt Disney wanted to populate the Jungle Cruise with live animals, but zoologists convinced him they’d be asleep during most park hours. In the early days, though, live alligators were kept in a pen near the turnstiles; they occasionally escaped into the lagoon.

23. In New Orleans Square, near the Pirates of the Caribbean exit, a door marked “33” leads to an ultra-secret, ultra-exclusive private club. Club 33 is the only place in the park that serves alcohol (including a Chardonnay specially bottled for the club by Fess “Davy Crockett” Parker). Its 480 members pay an initiation fee of from $8,000 to $27,000, and yearly dues of $4,000 to $15,000. The current waiting list for membership is said to be seven years long.

24. An early Tomorrowland attraction was Monsanto’s House of the Future, made entirely of plastic. It had the requisite picture phone and other Jetsonsonian appliances, but the most-talked-about feature, according to “Mouse Tales,” was the microwave oven. “Nobody believed you could bake a potato in three minutes,” said attendant Dick Mahoney. Years later, when Disneyland tried to tear down the plastic house, the wrecking ball just bounced off.

25. On Star Tours, the short, squat robots you pass while waiting in line are the audio-animatronic ducks from the old “America Sings” attraction, with their feathers and skin yanked off. One still has webbed feet.

26. To create the illusion of size on Main Street, designers made the ground-floor buildings nine-tenths scale, the second floors seven-eighths and the third floors five-eighths.

27. Sleeping Beauty Castle is based largely on “Mad King” Ludwig’s Neuschwanstein Castle in Bavaria, but with one big difference: The top is on backward. Disney didn’t want it to look too much like the real thing.

28. Originally, Mr. Toad did not appear in Mr. Toad’s Wild Ride, nor did Peter Pan or Snow White feature in their own rides. Disney’s idea was that riders would view these attractions from the lead character’s point of view. Hardly anyone understood this concept, and now each character makes a brief appearance.

29. If you buy a Mickey balloon and it pops or flies away while you’re in the park, they’ll give you a new one - as long as you have a receipt.

30. Late at night on rides such as Pirates of the Caribbean and It’s a Small World, amorous couples regularly try to make the Happiest Place on Earth even a little happier. They’re apparently unaware that virtually every inch of every ride is observed by security cameras or hidden employees. Sometimes they’re startled by a warning from a loudspeaker; occasionally they’re greeted at the exit by applauding employees.

31. In the early days, Walt Disney had an agreement with the city of Anaheim that no outside buildings could be tall enough to be visible from within the park.

32. At the end of the Star Tours ride, just as your Starspeeder is about to crash into a fuel truck, a man in the control booth ducks down, then stands up and picks up the phone. The man is George Lucas.

33. Ron Dominguez, the top executive from 1971 to 1994, grew up on one of the Anaheim orange groves purchased by Disney for the park. “My house was right about where the grist mill on Tom Sawyer’s Island is now,” he said. Mr. Dominguez spent his entire career at the park, starting as a ticket-taker on opening day and working his way up to the top spot.

34. The names painted in gold leaf on second-story windows along Main Street are Disneyland’s Hall of Fame. They honor important people in the park’s history, usually with an inside joke. Mr. Dominguez’s window, for example, reads, “Orange Grove Property Mgt. - We Care For Your Property As If It Were Our Own.”

35. Attractions that never made it off the drawing board: Lilliputian Land, a Monstro the Whale water slide and, according to Mouse Tales, a “child-sized medieval torture chamber.”

36. There were no A, B, C, etc., coupons when Disneyland opened. Instead, visitors bought carnival-style tickets from booths in front of each attraction. When the lettered coupons were introduced in late 1955, C was the highest level. D tickets didn’t come until the following year, and E tickets until 1959.

37. Conspicuously missing on opening day: the Matterhorn. In its place was a two-story-tall pile of dirt from the excavation of the castle moat. It was billed as “Lookout Mountain.” The Matterhorn didn’t open until 1959.

38. Tomorrowland was originally meant to represent the futuristic year of 1986, when Halley’s comet was due to make its next appearance.

39. The soundtrack on Space Mountain, “Aquarium” from Saint-Saens’ “Carnival Des Animaux,” is played by 1960s surf guitar legend Dick Dale.

40. Nikita Krushchev was never turned away at the front gate by Walt Disney, as is popularly believed. Disney was eager to show the Soviet premier his submarine fleet, at the time the world’s sixth largest. It was the U.S. State Department that nixed the visit, saying security wasn’t adequate.

41. It’s a Small World was originally built for the 1964 New York World’s Fair. It was later boxed up and shipped to Anaheim, where it reopened in 1967. People who rode it in New York, including this writer, have had that song stuck in their heads three years longer than everyone else. (Other New York World’s Fair attractions that migrated west: “Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln,” the G.E. Carousel of Progress and the robotic dinosaurs you pass on the Disneyland Railroad.)

42. The telegraph in the New Orleans Square railroad station continually taps out part of Walt Disney’s opening day speech in a variant of Morse code once used by railroads. For years it had it slightly wrong, until an amateur ham radio operator deciphered it and discovered the mistake. In the park’s early days, according to “101 Things,” the telegraph tapped out a “ribald message.” It was quickly changed after Disney casually mentioned that his wife knew Morse code.

43. Main Street is based in large part on the town of Marceline, Mo., where Walt Disney spent part of his childhood. A whistle stop on the old Atchison, Topeka and Santa Fe rail line between Chicago and Kansas City, the town named a swimming pool and elementary school after its most famous son. The latter is the only place outside Disneyland authorized to fly the official Disneyland flag.

44. When it opened in 1967, Pirates of the Caribbean used real human skeletons as props. In an upcoming book, imagineer Jason Surrell writes, “Because the original imagineering team felt that the faux skeletons of the period were just too unconvincing, the grotto sequence originally featured real human remains obtained from the UCLA Medical Center. The skeletons were later returned to their countries of origin and given a proper burial.”

45. It’s widely believed that the horse-drawn hearse parked outside the Haunted Mansion was the one used to carry Mormon leader Brigham Young to his burial place. But this is one of many urban legends associated with Disneyland. No hearse was used at Young’s funeral.

46. Designers frequently leave their signatures on attractions. On Star Tours, the lettering on the industrial pipes near the entrance are the initials and telephone extensions of the creators; on It’s a Small World, one of the dolls wears the signature poncho of designer Mary Blair.

47. The Disneyland-Alweg Monorail was the first daily operating monorail in the Western Hemisphere.

48. The unforgettable - no matter how hard you try - theme song for It’s a Small World was written by the same team, Richard and Robert Sherman, who wrote the Annette Funicello novelty hit “Pineapple Princess.” (They also penned many Oscar-nominated songs for Disney movies.)

49. When you enter the Star Tours ride, a voice over the loudspeaker asks for an “Egroeg Sacul” to come to the booth. That’s “George Lucas” spelled backward.

50. Once and for all, Walt Disney is not frozen cryogenically at Disneyland or anywhere else. He did have an interest in the technology, but he is in fact spending eternity at Forest Lawn Cemetery in Glendale, Calif.


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1 posted on 11/25/2005 9:46:47 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Uh, I forgot to do a search on this.


2 posted on 11/25/2005 9:47:34 PM PST by Nasty McPhilthy (Those who beat their swords into plow shears….will plow for those who don’t.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Thanks for posting this, what a hoot!


3 posted on 11/25/2005 9:54:55 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Hmmmm, nothing about the number of unsafe sex acts on Gay Day....


4 posted on 11/25/2005 9:57:24 PM PST by Sociopathocracy (Real martinis do not contain vodka, fruit juice or umbrellas.)
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To: LibreOuMort

4 Beth ping


5 posted on 11/25/2005 10:03:51 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com† || (To Libs:) You are failing to celebrate MY diversity! || Iran Azad)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

51. Mickey Mouse was inspired by a mouse in Walt Disney's apartment...inspiring the world's most renowned amusement park. If it had been Richard Gere's apartment, it would have inspired the world's most renowned emergency proctological outpatient clinic.


6 posted on 11/25/2005 10:06:25 PM PST by Petronski (Cyborg is the greatest blessing I have ever known.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

----50. Once and for all, Walt Disney is not frozen cryogenically at Disneyland or anywhere else.----

Don't tell me that. I have wonderful daydreams of Uncle Walt clawing his way out of cryofreeze to kick the living crap out of all of the people who've ruined his company.

-Dan

7 posted on 11/25/2005 10:07:16 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
41. It’s a Small World was originally built for the 1964 New York World’s Fair. It was later boxed up and shipped to Anaheim, where it reopened in 1967. People who rode it in New York, including this writer, have had that song stuck in their heads three years longer than everyone else. (Other New York World’s Fair attractions that migrated west: “Great Moments With Mr. Lincoln,” the G.E. Carousel of Progress and the robotic dinosaurs you pass on the Disneyland Railroad.)

I was there twice when I was 9 years old, Flushing Meadows in Queens, I believe we went through IASM sitting in a '64 Ford Fairlane convertable or maybe it was a T-Bird. I saw it again at Disney World in early 1973 when I was a senior in high school. Orlando was still a small sleepy city, the airport was still called McCoy AFB and there was nothing but orange groves, pine trees and gator ditches between Orlando and Disney World.

8 posted on 11/25/2005 10:11:45 PM PST by this_ol_patriot (What's good for the goose and all that.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

You are the God of esoterica.

"People can do without Pepsi Cola but they can't pee in the street."

Gotta love WD. He was a visionary with a very practical side."


9 posted on 11/25/2005 10:14:13 PM PST by beaver fever
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

bump


10 posted on 11/25/2005 10:16:11 PM PST by VOA
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

I only knew 20 of these. Got some reading to do....

-Dan

11 posted on 11/25/2005 10:17:28 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
They didn't always have cameras inside the rides.

In the early 60's, my brother once jumped off the cart on Alice In Wonderland (IIRC) and wrote his initials on some piece of the scenery.. could still be there to this day for all I know. I was only 6 or 7 at the time and thought he was extremely brave and cool for doing it.. He had to run to catch up with the ride and almost didn't make it before it moved outside again.

I thought we were going to be arrested by those Disney cops that used to walk around dressed as cowboys.
12 posted on 11/25/2005 10:22:26 PM PST by Trampled by Lambs (I think, therefor I Zot!)
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To: Flux Capacitor
The opening on Sunday, July 17, 1955 was, of course, televised. In fact, it was the biggest live telecast to date! There were somewhere between 22 and 29 television cameras sprinkled throughout the Park - far more than the handful that had previously been used when covering live events. The ABC broadcast - seen by an astounding 90 million viewers - was hosted by Art Linkletter, Bob Cummings and Ronald Reagan. As the show went on the feed switched off between the three, offering different vantage points for the festivities. Walt also made appearances, but only when he was reading dedication plaques for the various lands.


13 posted on 11/25/2005 10:24:19 PM PST by Darth Republican
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To: Darth Republican

HELL YEAH! If you can get your hands on the "Disneyland USA" DVD set (not so easy to do now), you can see the entire kinescope of those opening day ceremonies, Ronnie and all. It's awesome to see.

-Dan

14 posted on 11/25/2005 10:28:22 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Disney. (spit)


15 posted on 11/25/2005 10:30:35 PM PST by BigCinBigD
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To: Flux Capacitor
I was ON the waiting list for Club 33.

FOR THREE LONG YEARS.

Of course, by the time I got the invite, I STILL couldn't afford it..

16 posted on 11/25/2005 10:42:08 PM PST by Experiment 6-2-6 (Admn Mods: tiny, malicious things that glare and gibber from dark corners.They have pins and dolls..)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy; All

About a week ago, I just woke up from a coma that was induced in 1954 when the TV fell on my head. If I remember, they were talking about some kind of Interstate highway on Walt Disney. I still haven't gotten out of the hospital room and I wonder if they ever got any of those things built. I just don't see how it would be possible to do that.


17 posted on 11/25/2005 10:54:47 PM PST by U S Army EOD (I NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER TAG LINE)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

When Disneyland opened, they discovered that the soil beneath the waterway surrounding Tom Sawyer Island leaked the water. They had to drain the water and coat the dirt with clay.


18 posted on 11/25/2005 10:55:18 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

We used to sneak pints of liquor into the park inside our coats. We would then buy soft drinks and make our mixed drinks in the bathroom stalls.

We shared this with a friend of ours who worked there, and he said it was the best time he ever had at the park!


19 posted on 11/25/2005 10:57:25 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Back when they still used lettered tickets, we would stand near the exit around closing time and ask people for their leftover tickets. Folks from out of town had no use for them, and we accumulated huge stacks of tickets. We would then get in for the general admission price of $1.50 and ride all day long.


20 posted on 11/25/2005 11:00:04 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

On senior ditch day my friend, my future brother-in-law, a friend of his, and I went to Disneyland. My friend and I went our own way in the park because my brother-in-law's friend was sloppy drunk and we knew he'd get busted. Sure enough, when he got to the end of the moving floorway of the Monsanto ride, he plopped face first onto the floor. Security was on him before he hit the ground.


21 posted on 11/25/2005 11:04:08 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

A friend of mine's father drove for Carnation Dairy and was Disneyland's first milk man.


22 posted on 11/25/2005 11:06:09 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: U S Army EOD

----About a week ago, I just woke up from a coma that was induced in 1954 when the TV fell on my head.----

Ouch.


23 posted on 11/25/2005 11:07:05 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

When my brother and I were little, we bought baby chicks at the swap meet. The chicks grew up to be noisy roosters, so we threw them over the fence one night into Knott's Berry Farm.

Wait a minute. That's a different amusement park. Never mind.


24 posted on 11/25/2005 11:07:57 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: Flux Capacitor
We got stuck on the It's A Small World ride for 2-1/2 hours when I was about 14. To this day that song still sends chills up my spine.

L

25 posted on 11/25/2005 11:08:37 PM PST by Lurker ("Son, there's only two things you need in this world; love and a .45.")
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
In honor of Disneyland’s 50th anniversary, we present 50 cool, obscure and simply odd things you probably didn’t know about the self-proclaimed Happiest Place on Earth.

I assume by "cool" they mean interesting.

26 posted on 11/25/2005 11:10:42 PM PST by judgeandjury
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
My mother went that first summer in 55 to Disneyland, the thing she alway talked about was that the were swarms of bees all over the place from the surrounding orange groves
27 posted on 11/25/2005 11:10:53 PM PST by tophat9000 (lose 3000 in an hour and you want to fight, lose 2000 in 2 years and you want to run !???)
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To: judgeandjury

Disneyland is cool as hell. :)

-Dan

28 posted on 11/25/2005 11:14:59 PM PST by Flux Capacitor (Trust me. I know what I'm doing.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Many of these tidbits are told to people who take a special walking tour of the park (you can sign up at City Hall).

#2 (basketball court) was because the Matterhorn violated Anaheim building codes (too tall), so the Disney team found a loophole and put the basketball court on the "second floor" in order to reclassify the Matterhorn as a mult-use building, which then made it legal.

-PJ

29 posted on 11/25/2005 11:15:27 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
Lots of territory is covered on that list. Thanks for posting it!

An interesting sidelight on the original Disney rides and attractions: most of them were sponsored. The Disney-Alweg monorail was already mentioned, but I can think of a few more:

In addition, Kodak had an early presence at Disneyland, with a photo shop on Main Street and, as I recall, film booths in each of the four "lands." They also had markers at points that would make a good "Kodak moment" around the park.

Disney believed in competition, though, so GAF also sold film and cameras. You could buy Coke as well as Pepsi, just not at the same place.

Those traveling with pets were also accommodated. Disneyland had a Ken-L-Ration Pet Motel at the main entrance.

As popular as Disneyland was when it opened and is still, even Walt Disney hedged his bets, prefering to share the risk with (at the time) more established businesses. Unlike Disney World, the Disney company bought just enough land for the park and acres and acres of parking. This created an enormous opportunity for hotels, restaurants and other tourist-oriented businesses, which very soon proliferated as the Magic Kingdom attracted families from all over the country and the world.

30 posted on 11/25/2005 11:15:29 PM PST by logician2u
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
27. Sleeping Beauty Castle is based largely on “Mad King” Ludwig’s Neuschwanstein Castle in Bavaria, but with one big difference: The top is on backward. Disney didn’t want it to look too much like the real thing.

The original is a true masterpiece....


31 posted on 11/25/2005 11:19:45 PM PST by indcons (Don't question either my intelligence or my ability; I have none.)
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To: Sociopathocracy
Hmmmm, nothing about the number of unsafe sex acts on Gay Day....

#7 edges into that territory. ;-)

32 posted on 11/25/2005 11:21:46 PM PST by Ichneumon
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To: Flux Capacitor

Explains the length of the comma and the fact they didn't find me until two week ago when they were cleaning out the room.


33 posted on 11/25/2005 11:22:31 PM PST by U S Army EOD (I NEED TO COME UP WITH ANOTHER TAG LINE)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
I went to Disneyland the third day it was open. Half the rides (or better) were not completed yet.

Nam Vet

34 posted on 11/25/2005 11:24:58 PM PST by Nam Vet (The Gaulistinians are rioting to reclaim the ancient 'holy ground' of Paris.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
23. In New Orleans Square, near the Pirates of the Caribbean exit, a door marked “33” leads to an ultra-secret, ultra-exclusive private club. Club 33 is the only place in the park that serves alcohol (including a Chardonnay specially bottled for the club by Fess “Davy Crockett” Parker).

Interesting....when I was young I had lunch in Club 33.  It's very nice in there.  It's a pity I was too young to appreciate it.

35 posted on 11/25/2005 11:25:04 PM PST by Psycho_Bunny (Base. All Yours = Mine.)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Wew!...at first I thought the title said "NEVERland...and I wuz thinkin' I DON'"T WANNA KNOW!!!!


36 posted on 11/25/2005 11:32:55 PM PST by ATCNavyRetiree (I can most times spot a liberal...they look weak, cowardly and undisciplined.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

"We used to sneak pints of liquor into the park inside our coats. We would then buy soft drinks and make our mixed drinks in the bathroom stalls."

My steady girlfriend and I snuck two pints of vodka into the park, for my HS graduation party, June 1965.




37 posted on 11/25/2005 11:35:07 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: Nasty McPhilthy
6. The sailing ship Columbia, which is supposed to be a replica of the first U.S. ship to circumvent the globe, actually was built in large part from the plans for the HMS Bounty, of mutiny fame. Disney’s shipbuilders couldn’t find plans for the original Columbia, so they relied heavily on those of Capt. William Bligh’s ship, which had similar dimensions.

At best, that would be John Glenn in Mercury...

38 posted on 11/25/2005 11:40:30 PM PST by harrowup (Born perfect and humble about it.)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
I was ON the waiting list for Club 33. FOR THREE LONG YEARS.

"I would never join any club that would have me as a member" -- Groucho Marx


39 posted on 11/25/2005 11:41:39 PM PST by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: indcons

I was there in 1985 and we did the tour. It was beautiful! We decided to forgo the bus ride and walk up the trail to the castle, which was awesome, but I was in pretty good physical shape back then! Will never forget it.


40 posted on 11/25/2005 11:46:37 PM PST by Theresawithanh (You'll get me to stop posting on FR when you wrench my laptop from my cold, dead fingers!)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Thanks for this informative thread. I just got done reading Disneywar, a crazy book about Disney in the Eisner years, its an excellent book and I definitely recommend it. The weirdest thing I did not know about Disneyland not mentioned here is that before one can become an executive, they work in a Disney costume in a park interacting with people to understand the "Disney Magic".


41 posted on 11/25/2005 11:51:11 PM PST by youthgonewild
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

Since 1955, 3562 divorces were initiated in the Disneyland parking lot


42 posted on 11/25/2005 11:56:16 PM PST by woofie (Hating GW Bush Never Fed a Hungry Child)
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To: martin_fierro

I had dinner at Club 33 once....it was interesting...nice story about the mounted animal heads!


43 posted on 11/26/2005 12:02:24 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

A basketball court can be found within the top of Matterhorn mountain at Disneyland. Status: True.

Origins: A small, attic-like space near the top of the Matterhorn structure does indeed contain a basketball rim, backboard, and floor markings. (This cramped area is smaller in size than a regulation half-court, so the term "basketball court" is used rather loosely here.) This common piece of Disney lore has it that Disneyland's Matterhorn house a basketball court because at the time it was built, an Anaheim city ordinance prohibited the building of structures exceeding a certain height — with the single exception of sports facilities. In order to skirt this law, crafty ol' Walt Disney supposedly had a "basketball court" installed within the Matterhorn so that he could claim the structure to be a sports arena and thereby avoid the height restrictions. This legend is nothing more than a bit of fanciful fun: the Matterhorn was finished in 1959, but the city of Anaheim did not have regulations restricting the height of structures until the 1970s (and even if they had, they wouldn't have allowed Disney to get away with such a blatant violation of them based on semantic trickery). The small area atop the Matterhorn is used as a rest and preparation area for the costumed climbers who sometimes entertain park guests by scaling the mountain. According to the Disney Channel program "Inside Out," the basketball court came to be when one of these climbers brought in and installed a basketball hoop and backboard for use as an amusement to pass the time when inclement weather or other conditions prevented the climbers from working outside the mountain.

44 posted on 11/26/2005 12:13:19 AM PST by BurbankKarl (NRA EPL)
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To: BurbankKarl

Anyone want to invite my wife and I to dinner at Club 33 ?

I'll tip you


45 posted on 11/26/2005 12:14:01 AM PST by woofie (Hating GW Bush Never Fed a Hungry Child)
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To: Nasty McPhilthy

51. The name of the song for the Electric Light Parade is Baroque Hoe-down.

52. There's lots of plain clothes Disney people present. Ond day in the California Adventure some girl got hurt from a fall, people with hidden walkie talkies were there immediately.

53. How much does that new fireworks display cost, anyway?


46 posted on 11/26/2005 12:24:54 AM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: Jeff Chandler

I went to college near disneyland. My biology lab partner, Trish, worked on the Matterhorn ride. I used to pay general admission, go the the Bobsled ride, and get Trish to take tickets. She once gave me over a hundred E coupons.

I wonder what ever happened to her....great lady.


47 posted on 11/26/2005 12:27:49 AM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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To: truth_seeker
My steady girlfriend and I snuck two pints of vodka into the park, for my HS graduation party, June 1965.

Dang. I thought we had an original idea. We didn't start doing that until 1972.

48 posted on 11/26/2005 12:29:41 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: youthgonewild
The weirdest thing I did not know about Disneyland not mentioned here is that before one can become an executive, they work in a Disney costume in a park interacting with people to understand the "Disney Magic".

Well, that's interesting. We had several friends who worked at Disneyland, and the ones who worked in costume were, for the most part, shall we say..."creative".

49 posted on 11/26/2005 12:32:15 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Peace Begins in the Womb)
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To: indcons

When I saw the Newschwanstein it was winter. The clouds obscured the castle. Suddenly they opened a bit, and there was the castle, looking like it was floating on clouds.

What a beautiful sight!


50 posted on 11/26/2005 12:34:28 AM PST by Loud Mime (Bad Lawmakers = Bad Law = Infinite Lawyers)
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